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View Poll Results: Should the gameplay be rebalanced?
No need to change the game balance 66 25.58%
Make 5 star teams slower 106 41.09%
Make 5 star teams weaker physically 90 34.88%
Make poor teams faster 93 36.05%
Make poor teams stronger physically 80 31.01%
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Old 21-05-2010, 07:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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With the June database update, as well as having correct squads and correcting some mistakes, we can also rebalance the game somewhat.

So I'd like to know how you feel this should be done.

The poll options are there for me to visualise all the replies, but feel free to also write your thoughts in a post.
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Old 21-05-2010, 07:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Make the poor teams faster and physically stronger (Nigeria + Uruguay)
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Old 21-05-2010, 07:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I vote for the first three.

The game seems fine to me in terms of gameplay. However, if any change is to be done, the most fair would be that of making the 5 star teams slower and/or weaker physically.

It's ridiculous that no matter how many times Torres falls, he rarely gets hurt. It's ridiculous that England defenders move so fast when they are slower. I understand that "strong teams" must have an advantage, and that's perfectably correct, but a bit of tweaking could improve this.

Making "poor teams" faster and stronger is simply making them unrealistic (though, as mentioned above, Uruguay should be physically stronger). The majority of them are fine as they are. The problem lies with the 4.5/5 star teams.

However, that being said, I hope that the database update for "poor teams" includes some players that were left out (and did participate in the qualifiers) and some improved player ratings for underrated players.


Most importantly, thank you for asking for the consumer's opinion Simon.
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Old 21-05-2010, 07:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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balance it out please

and also address that defenders are stronger in the box than outside the box, strength should be equal all over the pitch for the same player
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Old 21-05-2010, 08:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Umm, what does this mean?

For example, giving better speed stats to inferior teams, or changing some core engine element that currently makes better teams faster and physically stronger, in an unnatural way?

If there is some engine element there that creates the unbalance (ignores stats), then yeah, scrap it or change it or whatever.


By the way, when defending crosses in my own box, sometimes my players automatically run up to challenge an attacker while sometimes they don't, thus leaving opposing players dangerously in the open, and when I try to direct them myself, they won't even try to jump to challenge the header even if they stand right beside the attacker(pressing clear button). This was never an issue in FIFA10.

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Old 21-05-2010, 09:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thank you for addressing our concerns Mr. Humber!

I voted for the 2nd and 3rd choices...I can barely use Guatemala against Spain/Brazil/France/Germany/etc., every through ball they make, they are miles ahead of my defenders and I can't catch up...so I would like the 5 star teams balanced out...
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Old 21-05-2010, 09:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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by making the 5 stars weaker and slower this game will be so much more enjoyable. people will be able to use whoever they want with the knowledge they can compete on a physical basis at least

also just a quick point, some players have poor skill ratings when actually they are very skillful. the example i use is adam johnson, in fifa 10 he is 3 star skill moves but he is one of the best players in the prem for trickery etc. i just hope if he makes the final 23 then you make him the 5 stars he deserves.

and finally, thankyou for actually listening to what the forums want. you have seemingly done more than the ones before you.

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Old 21-05-2010, 09:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
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make 5 star teams slower and weaker
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Old 21-05-2010, 10:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I think you need to balance it better, I'm trying to get the trophy of winning the online cup with a 1 star team with Lebanon, and usually I don't get players not even near as good as I am but they can beat me in the end of the match even with 3 star team because thier player are ridicoulusly stronger and faster than mine, and wen my players get tired it is even more noticeble the diference!

P.S. Could you guys add Ganso to Brazil? He's not in the 23, just the 30, but he is the best midfield brazilian player today and I would love to be able to play with him in the squad! Just import him from FIFA 10 and it would be awsoeme!
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Old 21-05-2010, 10:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Strong teams weaker and slower!

Edit: Don't over do it, though.
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Old 22-05-2010, 01:14 AM   #11 (permalink)
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how about upgrading a few poor teams.

Not everyone has a shot of 40 or 41.

I know for a fact that the whole team shouldn't be evenly distributed in terms of shot power and accuracy.
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Old 22-05-2010, 02:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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this is sad!!! Cause the game is perfect. When i play as Honduras i feel the huge pressure and the different class when i play a 5 star team. Which is realistic.

Lower teams should struggle mightly against 5 star teams!

For Instance Ive havent havent won the WC with Honduras yet. I beat Portugal in ET and then beat Argentina in penalty kicks then i got killed against Italy in the semi and lost against the Dutch in the 3rd place.
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Old 22-05-2010, 02:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Thank you for addressing our concerns Mr. Humber!

I voted for the 2nd and 3rd choices...I can barely use Guatemala against Spain/Brazil/France/Germany/etc., every through ball they make, they are miles ahead of my defenders and I can't catch up...so I would like the 5 star teams balanced out...
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by making the 5 stars weaker and slower this game will be so much more enjoyable. people will be able to use whoever they want with the knowledge they can compete on a physical basis at least

also just a quick point, some players have poor skill ratings when actually they are very skillful. the example i use is adam johnson, in fifa 10 he is 3 star skill moves but he is one of the best players in the prem for trickery etc. i just hope if he makes the final 23 then you make him the 5 stars he deserves.

and finally, thankyou for actually listening to what the forums want. you have seemingly done more than the ones before you.

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I think you need to balance it better, I'm trying to get the trophy of winning the online cup with a 1 star team with Lebanon, and usually I don't get players not even near as good as I am but they can beat me in the end of the match even with 3 star team because thier player are ridicoulusly stronger and faster than mine, and wen my players get tired it is even more noticeble the diference!

P.S. Could you guys add Ganso to Brazil? He's not in the 23, just the 30, but he is the best midfield brazilian player today and I would love to be able to play with him in the squad! Just import him from FIFA 10 and it would be awsoeme!
This is sooooo lalalalaing stupid!! Guatemala and Lebonon shouldn't even be in the same pitch with Brazil, England etc.!!!

Thats what makes it fun! What do u think would happen in real life? They would get killed.

I love the game how it is, I play as Honduras and work hard to get past qualifying. Once im there i dont want my opponent like England to be as difficult as Panama or Mexico. They should be 10 times better
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Old 22-05-2010, 04:12 AM   #14 (permalink)
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U play with honduras that's why u like it as it is,Honduras is fast,but a team from Guatemala should not be slow just becuz they are 1.5 star,keep tru-ballin to suaZo and leave this thread ottoevens
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U play with honduras that's why u like it as it is,Honduras is fast,but a team from Guatemala should not be slow just becuz they are 1.5 star,keep tru-ballin to suaZo and leave this thread ottoevens
A team like Guatemala would get prison raped by a team like Spain or Brazil.

If there a 1.5 star its for a reason, they shouldn't compete with a team like that. They need to find other ways to win.

I love the fact that ive only gone through the group stages once and had to play my best game and make huge ajustments to defeat Portugal in ET and take Argentina in PKs

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Old 22-05-2010, 05:30 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Just because a team is 2 star doesnt mean they're slow and weak, simple as that. Top players are usually strong and fast, but that doesnt mean everyone else who's not from a 5 star team is slow and weak.
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Just because a team is 2 star doesnt mean they're slow and weak, simple as that. Top players are usually strong and fast, but that doesnt mean everyone else who's not from a 5 star team is slow and weak.
Im guessing their miles slower and weaker than a team like England. It shouldn't be close.

It should be almost impossible to beat a team like England if your lower than 3.5 stars
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Im guessing their miles slower and weaker than a team like England. It shouldn't be close.

It should be almost impossible to beat a team like England if your lower than 3.5 stars
This kind of thinking is what is ruining the FIFA online experience. This is why no one will choose 3.5 stars or lower teams and you only see the likes of England, Spain, Brazil, etc... being chosen. Where is the skill factor? If you're good enough you should be able to beat a higher ranked team with a lower one instead of it being "almost impossible" due to team attributes.

South Korea are rated as 3.5 stars, yet you expect the team to have lower stamina or speed than England? They're probably the fitted squad in the World.
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This kind of thinking is what is ruining the FIFA online experience. This is why no one will choose 3.5 stars or lower teams and you only see the likes of England, Spain, Brazil, etc... being chosen. Where is the skill factor? If you're good enough you should be able to beat a higher ranked team with a lower one instead of it being "almost impossible" due to team attributes.

South Korea are rated as 3.5 stars, yet you expect the team to have lower stamina or speed than England? They're probably the fitted squad in the World.
see a 3.5 team is reasonable. But when people are crying cause Lebanon or Malta cant beat England thats just stupid.

Online is a different story. I dont care for it, but yeah i see how it sucks for people who play online and face brazil, brazil, brazil, spain.

For that they should figure something out like making aggremements before a tournments. Making custom tournaments with a limit in teams star level
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Spain, Brazil, England, France, Italy, Germany, Argentina, Portugal, etc. all need to be lowered in physical attributes such as speed and strength. Primarily Spain, England, Brazil and France though.

These teams would normally kill lower star teams in reality but that is because their skill and not their speed or strength. On a physical level, most of the lower star teams can compete with the higher star teams. The key to their difference is their skills in shooting, passing, crossing, dribbling, skill moves, vision, finesse, etc.

If these changes are made, it means more skillful online players will not lose to unskillful 5 star users. It will be fair game in terms of physical abilities. No more Torres, Rooney, Drogba holding off two defenders or Lucio, Maicon, Puyol, Evra, etc. chasing down 2-3.5 star strikers clear through on goal from 7-8 yds behind and then tossing them off the ball and down onto the pitch.
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well offline leave it as it is. Cause if i ever beat England with Haiti im throwing that lalalala away
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Make 5 star team slower and make poor teams stronger physically.
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Also dont make 5 star teams weaker physically.Because for example Argentina is too weak phsically.If you make weaker, it would be lalalala.
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yes , if you can make the 5 start team a bit slower not mach
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This is sooooo lalalalaing stupid!! Guatemala and Lebonon shouldn't even be in the same pitch with Brazil, England etc.!!!

Thats what makes it fun! What do u think would happen in real life? They would get killed.

I love the game how it is, I play as Honduras and work hard to get past qualifying. Once im there i dont want my opponent like England to be as difficult as Panama or Mexico. They should be 10 times better


LOL, man yes they would get killed, but not by Englando players just running over them passing right trhu their midle, they would get killed because off their skill, tatical awereness, even tackles are far worst than superstar players not because the star players have super strength and super speed! we don't want it to be equal just well balanced! This way is getting almost impossible to get trohpys that EA put in the game, and if they put it in there it should be hard, but think with me, i'm a manual player, using ALL assisted controls to play better as Lebanon and never get past the semi finals because players with better teams just go running right by my defense even with a 5-3-2 ultra defensive formation, they should have to work their lalalalala to make a goal in any national team playng this way! And i'm a pretty decent player I am 21 years old and been playing football games almost every day for the last 18 years so I think I know what I'm talking about!
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