EURO 2008 DEMO - Constructive Criticism - Page 4

Alexf61 · 02-04-2008, 01:13 PM

who said u have to spend £40 u could rent it first from ur local video shop also i judge games by my own merit not by someone who finds some faults with a demo.

Borgetti-Fan · 02-04-2008, 05:07 PM

i hope in the final version you have more options in taking a free kick.
and take control of the goalie similar to the ps2 version.

BUT glad to have broadcast angle back

+ the faces are very very much better. that´s great.

futbolfan37 · 02-04-2008, 06:34 PM

Needs fixing.

From kick off, you can run right up the middle, every time, and get a shot off. The two closest defenders let you through. Then all you have to do is beat the back four. Really cheesy. Please fix.

OwynJnr · 02-04-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mindVex2

I don't think it's useless, because if you play again human players the opponent now don't know if you're going to pass or lob, which is IMO quite important (esp. with freekicks, corners, etc.).

I didn't think of that. Interesting.

Alexf61 · 02-04-2008, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolfan37

Needs fixing.

From kick off, you can run right up the middle, every time, and get a shot off. The two closest defenders let you through. Then all you have to do is beat the back four. Really cheesy. Please fix.

of course it,s easy to score as the demo is only set at semi-pro hopefully it,ll be a lot more difficult in world class mode or even pro but then against a human opponent it shouldn,t matter what level you play.

irvine mews · 03-04-2008, 04:07 PM

i see the old shoot from center kick off and get corner or goal bug is still there. very dissapointing.

M1ZZ0U · 03-04-2008, 08:39 PM

Agreed, Irvine. Unfortunately, there are way too many people that support it. Either because they employ it or because you can (I love this one), " Do it in real life ". Regardless of the ratio of success.

To me it's no different than playing people on Madden who do nothing but go for Hail Mary after Hail Mary. Is it their choice? Of course, but it's not in the true spirit of the game. At least from a sportsmanship standpoint.

mamba12 · 03-04-2008, 08:50 PM

honestly, the pace and how it plays makes it feel like i'm playing the 2006 World cup game. it doesn't feel anything like 2008. and i'm not a fan. the graphics look good. but not the water on the field.

Waqz · 04-04-2008, 09:21 AM

One of the main criticisms of fifa was the cutback. So far what i've seen its still incredibly easy to pass back.

nkfootball · 04-04-2008, 05:33 PM

nah i can't be bothered with this game. I'd much prefer an incredible simulation game in FIFA 09.

This EURO game is just a faster paced, more responsive, easier version of FIFA 08.

I'll pass.

NK.

futbolfan37 · 04-04-2008, 07:40 PM

Another must have in 09 if not in Euro. Hand balls. Refs and linesmen, hand balls, # of players in walls, etc... Please EA, put the basics in.. with a name like FIFA it should have and adhere to the Laws of the Game. Please. Sort it out.

j wheazy · 04-04-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepzbmrl

See thats what worries me, the fifa 08 keepers online have the brain of 'semi pro' so imagine how its gna be online on euro

the keepers being semi pro isnt the reason youre scoring 5 goals in a 2 min demo....its the horrible defense. youre not scoring 5 goals all from 25 yard shots, youre getting them from back passes inside the box

NO 5v5!!!!!!!!!! are you guys crazy EA? thats why FIFA 08 is so great. without that, i can guarantee you i will be downloading this game & not buying it. how stupid can you be?

i can only imagine what goes on in your boardrooms.....How do we improve the game? MORE cut scenes that dont matter & lets ditch that revolutionary 5v5 online play.....BRILLIANT....way to screw up a game that looked like it was going to be great

Jon37 · 05-04-2008, 02:29 AM

I am a massive fan of fifa08, put unfortunately I will not be purchasing uefa euro 2008 for my ps3.

The reason I liked fifa 08 so much was because it was so rewarding when you scored. This is because the slow gameplay allowed you to pick out the most accurate of passes and shots. However in Euro 2008, because players run so much faster, its gone the same way pro evo 08 has gone; not very good. I know its semi-pro but winning 6-0 on the euro 2008 demo is ridiculuous. You can literally walk past defenders.

The key is simple EA; Keep the gameplay slower!!! Although this means goals are harder to come by but that is what football's all about. I realised this when after played game after game on the euro 08 demo, I decided to give fifa 08 a chance because havent played it for a while. It was a hard-fought match vs fulham (on legend difficulty), and after i scored 2 late goals to win the match, I was so happy I actually puched the air with joy. and shouted at the top of my voice GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!!

Then it hit me. It may be frustrating with the lack of scoring that occurs on fifa 08 (due to the slow gameplay), but thats what makes it all the more rewarding. Euro 08 may give me the opportunity to score lots more goals but who cares, I'm keepin FIFA 08 for good!

Arthur08 (PSN ID) Tell me who you are first if you want to add me as a friend

CowRonaldo · 05-04-2008, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon37

I am a massive fan of fifa08, put unfortunately I will not be purchasing uefa euro 2008 for my ps3.

The reason I liked fifa 08 so much was because it was so rewarding when you scored. This is because the slow gameplay allowed you to pick out the most accurate of passes and shots. However in Euro 2008, because players run so much faster, its gone the same way pro evo 08 has gone; not very good. I know its semi-pro but winning 6-0 on the euro 2008 demo is ridiculuous. You can literally walk past defenders.

The key is simple EA; Keep the gameplay slower!!! Although this means goals are harder to come by but that is what football's all about. I realised this when after played game after game on the euro 08 demo, I decided to give fifa 08 a chance because havent played it for a while. It was a hard-fought match vs fulham (on legend difficulty), and after i scored 2 late goals to win the match, I was so happy I actually puched the air with joy. and shouted at the top of my voice GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!!

Then it hit me. It may be frustrating with the lack of scoring that occurs on fifa 08 (due to the slow gameplay), but thats what makes it all the more rewarding. Euro 08 may give me the opportunity to score lots more goals but who cares, I'm keepin FIFA 08 for good!

Arthur08 (PSN ID) Tell me who you are first if you want to add me as a friend

The demo is always easier than the actual game. Not to mention, there's always world class difficulty. Don't judge the difficulty of the game by the demo.

And FIFA 08 really does not feel rewarding to me. All the lala with the lalalala AI and horrible responsiveness just annoys me so much by the time I score the goal I don't even care. Against the CPU, they just have these ridicolous advantadges over you. If they need a goal, they'll score it whether you try to stop them or not. And if the game decides I'm the winner beforehand then the CPU misses goals on purpose. Then the goals I score feel unrewarding because it just feels like the CPU is letting me score them. Online is just friggin child abuse where completely lalalala players can score goals on the best. However, Be A Pro 5v5 is great. Mainly because when controlling 1 player you don't have to deal with the AI.

Euro 08 fixes these so important problems. Responsiveness is much better. When you press pass, he passes. When you want to tackle, he tackles. The AI is not perfect, but slightly better. They make better runs and don't hide behind the opponent like in FIFA 08.

I do agree FIFA 08's slow game pace is better and would like to keep it in FIFA 09, but that does not make Euro 2008 a bad game!

BoulDvd · 05-04-2008, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon37

I am a massive fan of fifa08, put unfortunately I will not be purchasing uefa euro 2008 for my ps3.

The reason I liked fifa 08 so much was because it was so rewarding when you scored. This is because the slow gameplay allowed you to pick out the most accurate of passes and shots. However in Euro 2008, because players run so much faster, its gone the same way pro evo 08 has gone; not very good. I know its semi-pro but winning 6-0 on the euro 2008 demo is ridiculuous. You can literally walk past defenders.

The key is simple EA; Keep the gameplay slower!!! Although this means goals are harder to come by but that is what football's all about. I realised this when after played game after game on the euro 08 demo, I decided to give fifa 08 a chance because havent played it for a while. It was a hard-fought match vs fulham (on legend difficulty), and after i scored 2 late goals to win the match, I was so happy I actually puched the air with joy. and shouted at the top of my voice GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!!

Then it hit me. It may be frustrating with the lack of scoring that occurs on fifa 08 (due to the slow gameplay), but thats what makes it all the more rewarding. Euro 08 may give me the opportunity to score lots more goals but who cares, I'm keepin FIFA 08 for good!

Arthur08 (PSN ID) Tell me who you are first if you want to add me as a friend

Agreed, also the lack of basic football stuff, like options on free kicks/corners, being able to choose how many men in a wall and to be able to move the wall, in game strategyie more options player set ups to apply in real time, no refs no linesman, to many cut scenes, and weather that is not real wind has an affect when raining swirly gusts would be good to have an impact on corners or long balls etc.

CowRonaldo · 05-04-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BoulDvd

Agreed, also the lack of basic football stuff, like options on free kicks/corners, being able to choose how many men in a wall and to be able to move the wall, in game strategyie more options player set ups to apply in real time, no refs no linesman, to many cut scenes, and weather that is not real wind has an affect when raining swirly gusts would be good to have an impact on corners or long balls etc.

You're complaining about stuff that isn't in FIFA 08 either, so I don't see how this proves your point that FIFA 08 > Euro 08?

BoulDvd · 06-04-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CowRonaldo

You're complaining about stuff that isn't in FIFA 08 either, so I don't see how this proves your point that FIFA 08 > Euro 08?

Yep
This is why i would have expected that the game would have moved on a bit as promised by EA and at least incorporated one of these and i have posted in constructive criticism which this is

number5 · 08-04-2008, 03:51 PM

For everyone complaining about the cutback, It can be defended!!!! and its not that hard, sure i'll give you that eventually a striker will plow through you to get to the ball regardless but those are good odds. Any time someone comes running down the wing just hold L2 stay in front of his *** and block the ball for the cross, if he goes into the box, pull out your keeper and mark the man or play the pass. Its pretty simple. Still i conceded that EA shoulc and could make the AI repond alot better to the cutback and low crosses on its own.

BrianBscotty · 11-04-2008, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon37

I am a massive fan of fifa08, put unfortunately I will not be purchasing uefa euro 2008 for my ps3.

The reason I liked fifa 08 so much was because it was so rewarding when you scored. This is because the slow gameplay allowed you to pick out the most accurate of passes and shots. However in Euro 2008, because players run so much faster, its gone the same way pro evo 08 has gone; not very good. I know its semi-pro but winning 6-0 on the euro 2008 demo is ridiculuous. You can literally walk past defenders.

The key is simple EA; Keep the gameplay slower!!! Although this means goals are harder to come by but that is what football's all about. I realised this when after played game after game on the euro 08 demo, I decided to give fifa 08 a chance because havent played it for a while. It was a hard-fought match vs fulham (on legend difficulty), and after i scored 2 late goals to win the match, I was so happy I actually puched the air with joy. and shouted at the top of my voice GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!!

Then it hit me. It may be frustrating with the lack of scoring that occurs on fifa 08 (due to the slow gameplay), but thats what makes it all the more rewarding. Euro 08 may give me the opportunity to score lots more goals but who cares, I'm keepin FIFA 08 for good!

Arthur08 (PSN ID) Tell me who you are first if you want to add me as a friend

You feel the same as me. Now that I can use the controls well, I love the game. I play on World Class and have some great games. And many are 3-2 affairs where the CPU has me so frustrated I want to toss my controller. Then I get a drive into the box and get a wild bounce of a defender and get that creeper into the bottom left and I just am loving it. I just wish that I could switch to entirely manual controls. I haven't gotten the shooting down yet, it's on Semi. But all the others are manual and I love it. To me this new meter is gonna kill it. I like that I have to guess to gauge the strength of the pass. Don't real players have to determine their touch under great pressure? And since the auto passing is broken and always seems to pick the exact wrong guy with the wrong touch, I trust myself much more. And don't get me to raving about the Pro Cam. I couldn't fathom buying this game if it isn't in the Tournament mode. I don't see how anyone could play with any other cam. It's so dynamic and immersive. Just because I watch football sideways doesn't mean that I want to play it sideways. It's funny. I watch the Champions League coverage and they were using some camera moves that reminded me of the Pro Cam. Oh well, Glad to hear that someone else loves 08 like I do. Hopefully 09 is an evolution of 08 that incorporates the good of UEFA while continuing to reach for the "sim" pinnacle.....

M1ZZ0U · 11-04-2008, 12:14 AM

Good post and great points, BrianBscotty.

DeeH1888 · 11-04-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianBscotty

Hopefully 09 is an evolution of 08 that incorporates the good of UEFA while continuing to reach for the "sim" pinnacle.....

In a nut shell!! Well said mate

UkHardcore23 · 11-04-2008, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianBscotty

Hopefully 09 is an evolution of 08 that incorporates the good of UEFA while continuing to reach for the "sim" pinnacle.....

The perfect game

amenrah73 · 11-04-2008, 01:27 AM

I don't like the graphics...really it's about PES laughable.

I don't like the 6% increase of speed...it's the ball that moves fast...not the players. In reall life sprints don't last continuously all game long.

The flow of the game is rediculously unreal...theres is no pause of play or speed up or build up...just robotic fast pace nonsense.

I don't like the ease of scoring...where's the AI?

The goal celebrations practically slows down the frame rate so bad...that I can't even imagine how online is going to be.

I'm very dissapointed...I thought we were heading in a great direction with FIFA09.

Did I mention the game looks like poo?

DeeH1888 · 11-04-2008, 01:48 AM

Amenrah, are you any relation to a certain Mr Wheazy

TT31P · 11-04-2008, 04:32 AM

There is a lot of good things about this game. The aerial challenges are incredible compared to FIFA 08. Same with the responsiveness and the passing has improved.

And up until tonight I didn't really understand what everyone was complaining about with the ease of scoring. I guess I didn't try to exploit the game and played actual football so I didn't notice anything different than FIFA 08 in that aspect. But everything they said is true. I saw the comments about walking with the ball and beating defenders, so I gave it a try. If you don't use the sprint button you can literally walk by defenders by doing nothing more then changing direction. I even walked by a few defenders and they didn't even try to tackle me or run back to defend. It's actually easier to score if you don't even try. This really has me worried now, I know it's semi-pro but even on amateur difficulty you shouldn't be able to just walk by defenders.

02-04-2008, 05:07 PM	#77 (permalink)
Borgetti-Fan Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 27 Posts: 29	i hope in the final version you have more options in taking a free kick. and take control of the goalie similar to the ps2 version. BUT glad to have broadcast angle back + the faces are very very much better. that´s great. __________________ fifa08 online on ps3: borgetti-fan

02-04-2008, 06:34 PM	#78 (permalink)
futbolfan37 Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,807	Needs fixing. From kick off, you can run right up the middle, every time, and get a shot off. The two closest defenders let you through. Then all you have to do is beat the back four. Really cheesy. Please fix. __________________

03-04-2008, 04:07 PM	#81 (permalink)
irvine mews Rookie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Age: 24 Posts: 366	i see the old shoot from center kick off and get corner or goal bug is still there. very dissapointing. __________________ Liverpool 0 Manchester United 1 -----------Owen (90) 25th October 2009

03-04-2008, 08:39 PM	#82 (permalink)
M1ZZ0U Forum Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Second City Posts: 3,991	Agreed, Irvine. Unfortunately, there are way too many people that support it. Either because they employ it or because you can (I love this one), " Do it in real life ". Regardless of the ratio of success. To me it's no different than playing people on Madden who do nothing but go for Hail Mary after Hail Mary. Is it their choice? Of course, but it's not in the true spirit of the game. At least from a sportsmanship standpoint. __________________

04-04-2008, 07:40 PM	#86 (permalink)
futbolfan37 Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,807	Another must have in 09 if not in Euro. Hand balls. Refs and linesmen, hand balls, # of players in walls, etc... Please EA, put the basics in.. with a name like FIFA it should have and adhere to the Laws of the Game. Please. Sort it out. __________________

02-04-2008, 01:13 PM	#76 (permalink)
Alexf61 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 156	who said u have to spend £40 u could rent it first from ur local video shop also i judge games by my own merit not by someone who finds some faults with a demo.

03-04-2008, 08:50 PM	#83 (permalink)
mamba12 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: USA Posts: 26	honestly, the pace and how it plays makes it feel like i'm playing the 2006 World cup game. it doesn't feel anything like 2008. and i'm not a fan. the graphics look good. but not the water on the field.

04-04-2008, 09:21 AM	#84 (permalink)
Waqz Rookie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 39	One of the main criticisms of fifa was the cutback. So far what i've seen its still incredibly easy to pass back.

04-04-2008, 05:33 PM	#85 (permalink)
nkfootball Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,234	nah i can't be bothered with this game. I'd much prefer an incredible simulation game in FIFA 09. This EURO game is just a faster paced, more responsive, easier version of FIFA 08. I'll pass. NK.

05-04-2008, 02:29 AM	#88 (permalink)
Jon37 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 60	I am a massive fan of fifa08, put unfortunately I will not be purchasing uefa euro 2008 for my ps3. The reason I liked fifa 08 so much was because it was so rewarding when you scored. This is because the slow gameplay allowed you to pick out the most accurate of passes and shots. However in Euro 2008, because players run so much faster, its gone the same way pro evo 08 has gone; not very good. I know its semi-pro but winning 6-0 on the euro 2008 demo is ridiculuous. You can literally walk past defenders. The key is simple EA; Keep the gameplay slower!!! Although this means goals are harder to come by but that is what football's all about. I realised this when after played game after game on the euro 08 demo, I decided to give fifa 08 a chance because havent played it for a while. It was a hard-fought match vs fulham (on legend difficulty), and after i scored 2 late goals to win the match, I was so happy I actually puched the air with joy. and shouted at the top of my voice GET IN THERE!!!!!!!!! Then it hit me. It may be frustrating with the lack of scoring that occurs on fifa 08 (due to the slow gameplay), but thats what makes it all the more rewarding. Euro 08 may give me the opportunity to score lots more goals but who cares, I'm keepin FIFA 08 for good! Arthur08 (PSN ID) Tell me who you are first if you want to add me as a friend

08-04-2008, 03:51 PM	#93 (permalink)
number5 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Tx Age: 20 Posts: 468	For everyone complaining about the cutback, It can be defended!!!! and its not that hard, sure i'll give you that eventually a striker will plow through you to get to the ball regardless but those are good odds. Any time someone comes running down the wing just hold L2 stay in front of his *** and block the ball for the cross, if he goes into the box, pull out your keeper and mark the man or play the pass. Its pretty simple. Still i conceded that EA shoulc and could make the AI repond alot better to the cutback and low crosses on its own. __________________ psn: jjara11 Last edited by number5; 08-04-2008 at 09:46 PM..

11-04-2008, 12:14 AM	#95 (permalink)
M1ZZ0U Forum Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Second City Posts: 3,991	Good post and great points, BrianBscotty. __________________

11-04-2008, 01:27 AM	#98 (permalink)
amenrah73 Forum Guru Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: In your jealous mind. Posts: 1,400	I don't like the graphics...really it's about PES laughable. I don't like the 6% increase of speed...it's the ball that moves fast...not the players. In reall life sprints don't last continuously all game long. The flow of the game is rediculously unreal...theres is no pause of play or speed up or build up...just robotic fast pace nonsense. I don't like the ease of scoring...where's the AI? The goal celebrations practically slows down the frame rate so bad...that I can't even imagine how online is going to be. I'm very dissapointed...I thought we were heading in a great direction with FIFA09. Did I mention the game looks like poo? __________________

11-04-2008, 01:48 AM	#99 (permalink)
DeeH1888 Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The occupied 06 - IRELAND Gender: Male Posts: 502	Amenrah, are you any relation to a certain Mr Wheazy __________________

11-04-2008, 04:32 AM	#100 (permalink)
TT31P Forum Guru Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,413	There is a lot of good things about this game. The aerial challenges are incredible compared to FIFA 08. Same with the responsiveness and the passing has improved. And up until tonight I didn't really understand what everyone was complaining about with the ease of scoring. I guess I didn't try to exploit the game and played actual football so I didn't notice anything different than FIFA 08 in that aspect. But everything they said is true. I saw the comments about walking with the ball and beating defenders, so I gave it a try. If you don't use the sprint button you can literally walk by defenders by doing nothing more then changing direction. I even walked by a few defenders and they didn't even try to tackle me or run back to defend. It's actually easier to score if you don't even try. This really has me worried now, I know it's semi-pro but even on amateur difficulty you shouldn't be able to just walk by defenders.