EURO 2008 DEMO - Constructive Criticism - Page 2

UkHardcore23 · 28-03-2008, 08:55 PM

Nearly every shoot makes you goto a cut scene of the manager, really annoying.

ponka00 · 28-03-2008, 09:46 PM

The skill moves is much better. Now you can actually pass a defender with stepovers. And the animations for skills are much better.

jetsallez · 28-03-2008, 09:54 PM

I guess but football is more about general passing than skill moves. If they make it to easy with the tricks then its not going to play anything like actual football.
Prefer a more solid passing style game... skill moves should be kept to a minimum IMO

androctonvs · 28-03-2008, 09:57 PM

i haven't been dominating the games nearly as much as you guys. maybe i'm still thinking much too "fifa08"

ant0n · 28-03-2008, 09:58 PM

it was easy to pass because it was semi-pro. the cut scenes are annoying, the passing is better, so is the shooting and the A.I. The biggest improvement of all is the responsiveness.

dlbbRogueTrader · 29-03-2008, 01:49 AM

Remove All Cut Scenes!!

Welsh Nige · 29-03-2008, 02:29 AM

quit moaning, this game is gonna be class............ roll on 18th apr

irvine mews · 29-03-2008, 12:04 PM

nice to see managers in the game, despite a completely empty dug out behind them with no coaches, substitutes or medical staff.

ant0n · 29-03-2008, 06:29 PM

hopefully it's different in the full game

CowRonaldo · 29-03-2008, 06:59 PM

Yeah, I think some are overreacting, since demos aren't the full game.

There are probably features left out and tweaks to the difficulty levels and AI.

ant0n · 29-03-2008, 07:08 PM

just look at the fifa 08 demo

M1ZZ0U · 29-03-2008, 08:18 PM

Hopefully the debated quirks are ironed out before release.

The one advantage Americans have in getting the game released a month later is that we don't have to be test-rats. If the game sucks, none of us will have wasted our money on it by the time word gets out.

Viserys · 29-03-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by M1ZZ0U

*Player Movement: While the pace of the game has noticably picked up and for the better, for whatever reason I feel as if the player models have taken a step back in animation. They run as if they're wearing a girdle and that isn't an exageration. It's nintendo quality to be honest. Big disappointment, personally.

*Single Player Mode Camera View: As of right now you're not able to select " Be a Pro " camera for single player mode. I greatly hope that changes from the demo to the full version or I think I'll be passing (with my new meter mode above my head) entirely on this game.

I totally agree on those 2 points here.
The " be a pro " has been a "must" for me in fifa08!!! Please dont make the same mistakes of PES game designers, beginning to implement a new great improvement and removing it in the next episode of the game

The player movement was ok in fifa08!!! Like in real soccer, if you want to dribble a player you have to use some tricks like feints and so on..
and like in real soccer only few players can perform those tricks!!!
Now players run like in PES..too much too long and too fast!! this is a big mistake imho.

M1ZZ0U · 29-03-2008, 08:25 PM

Obviously, I agree. Welcome aboard Viserys.

Wepeeler · 29-03-2008, 09:06 PM

The cutscenes are fine, but I wish EA would put more angles in for the replays after the goal. Mix it up a bit, it's the same 3 angles all the time!

The demo of EURO is better than the full version of FIFA 08, so I'm happy

ALso, if EA made the keepers "better", most everyone would complain about that. Wait until the full version to gripe about them...

amantle94 · 29-03-2008, 09:14 PM

I Love the way certain players run.Look on france toulalan runs different to anelka.Which i think is cool.

codsteve · 30-03-2008, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wepeeler

The cutscenes are fine, but I wish EA would put more angles in for the replays after the goal. Mix it up a bit, it's the same 3 angles all the time!

The demo of EURO is better than the full version of FIFA 08, so I'm happy

ALso, if EA made the keepers "better", most everyone would complain about that. Wait until the full version to gripe about them...

I agree.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm loving the game. Woke up early this morning just to play it some more!!

Responsiveness above all is what really caught me. Nothing like 08!

sleepzbmrl · 30-03-2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by j wheazy

you need to remember its also on semi-pro, the 2nd easiest mode in the game....i score up to 15 goals sometimes on fifa 08 on this setting, i can just run down the field & score at will most of the time.

as for the demo, PS3 version seems fairly smooth, but the cut scenes are so annoying, its not even funny. i cant stand seeing the coach more than 2 times during the game, i hope theres an option to not have them in the retail version.

See thats what worries me, the fifa 08 keepers online have the brain of 'semi pro' so imagine how its gna be online on euro

BoulDvd · 30-03-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SmartCanuck1988

Great post. Negative or positive, any comments/feedback is appreciated and will do nothing but help the series get better and better

Thanks again for the feedback. Keep them coming.

Why bother EA do not listen, the positive feedback on FIFA 08 and you discarded the game and went back to the old ways............. so much culd have been acheived with this title and wasted, good knows now what FIFA 09 wil lbe like, hopefully this is a blip and then we will get the true simulation that FIFA 08 has started and FIFA 09 could be

For the first time since buying all the Games since the Megadrive, i will not be getting this one.

M1ZZ0U · 30-03-2008, 06:35 PM

I think it's our responsibility as consumers to bring certain qualities or lack there of to EA's attention, not only pre-EURO 2008' but post EURO 2008'. This of course, is in the hopes that, as you said, FIFA 09' is the best product available on the market for a football game.

Whether or not EA will listen, I couldn't tell you. But ya gotta try, right?

BoulDvd · 30-03-2008, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1ZZ0U

I think it's our responsibility as consumers to bring certain qualities or lack there of to EA's attention, not only pre-EURO 2008' but post EURO 2008'. This of course, is in the hopes that, as you said, FIFA 09' is the best product available on the market for a football game.

Whether or not EA will listen, I couldn't tell you. But ya gotta try, right?

Heres hoping, banging head on brick wall comes to mind, EA please ignore this dross game and bring us FIFA 09 a sim as promised and you will knock Pro evo finally into touch for once and for all

BoulDvd · 30-03-2008, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wepeeler

The cutscenes are fine, but I wish EA would put more angles in for the replays after the goal. Mix it up a bit, it's the same 3 angles all the time!

The demo of EURO is better than the full version of FIFA 08, so I'm happy

ALso, if EA made the keepers "better", most everyone would complain about that. Wait until the full version to gripe about them...

This is pretty much it not a lot of change now no time, i cannot think of anything i like response quicker because they speeded it up.commentary so bad, ai don't get me started improved on FIFA 08 it's actually worse
No refs no linesman so bad weather effects,who asked for cut scenes of managers (still lag by the way).
Run the whole pitch score.why bother with formations and strategy pointless just pick up and score. of course UEFA 2008 championships wil be just like this Croatia winning 10 nil.

So very disappointing

Just thought of something i like the cameras, and the £39.99 EA have saved me buying this RUBBISH

CowRonaldo · 30-03-2008, 09:34 PM

Some minor but noticeable passing issues from both FIFA and Euro games:
1. Players use their weak foot too often and use it unneccessarily.
2. Players use outside foot to pass too much. It is overused in the game since players most of the time use their inside foot in real life.

Not really a huge deal, but fixing it would add more realism.

Viserys · 31-03-2008, 12:09 AM

I agree with BoulDvd a more control over players doesnt mean they have to run so fast, and it doesnt mean we need to speed up the game.
We can have a faster response without speed up the game pace.
I noticed byotherhand that the field seems now a little bit smaller than in fifa08..

I think that a game like fifa can satisfy both hardcore players and casual players..for that we have manual controls and assist controls..its enough to satisfy everyone we dont need an arcade version of fifa08.

II Sathiroth II · 31-03-2008, 04:20 AM

Lets start with questions first.......

1. Will the rain effects be used in ranked games ? If not WHY....

2. Why no 5v5 ?

Pros:

*Great improvement from Fifa 08 in all area's.
*New ball physics.
*New camera view "CO-OP camera" which i love by the way.
*Create you own celebration.
*Great sound track as always.
*Fantastic commentary and general effect sounds.
*New passing meter which works great.
*New weather effects including field conditions change, mud & water spots.
*New penalty & free kick system.
*Tricks now works

*Through balls work alot better and smother.

Cons:

*Same graphics except with the amazing cut scenes.
*No 5v5
*No referee on pitch or side line referee either.
*No more arena practice.
*Constant cut scenes.

So ok overall this game kicks some serious butt, but lets not go overboard i mean its still Fifa 09 beta even if they say its not.

But im still going to get anyway becasue its a great improvent from Fifa 08, and lets not forget EA works there butt to get these games the best they can for us in the time they have SO APPRECIATE IT....

28-03-2008, 08:55 PM	#26 (permalink)
UkHardcore23 Forum Junkie Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 2,896	Nearly every shoot makes you goto a cut scene of the manager, really annoying. __________________ [Removed]

28-03-2008, 09:58 PM	#30 (permalink)
ant0n Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose, Ca Man Utd, USNT, SJ Earthquakes Gender: Male Posts: 4,168	it was easy to pass because it was semi-pro. the cut scenes are annoying, the passing is better, so is the shooting and the A.I. The biggest improvement of all is the responsiveness. __________________

29-03-2008, 12:04 PM	#33 (permalink)
irvine mews Rookie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Age: 24 Posts: 366	nice to see managers in the game, despite a completely empty dug out behind them with no coaches, substitutes or medical staff. __________________ Liverpool 0 Manchester United 1 -----------Owen (90) 25th October 2009

29-03-2008, 06:29 PM	#34 (permalink)
ant0n Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose, Ca Man Utd, USNT, SJ Earthquakes Gender: Male Posts: 4,168	hopefully it's different in the full game __________________

29-03-2008, 07:08 PM	#36 (permalink)
ant0n Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose, Ca Man Utd, USNT, SJ Earthquakes Gender: Male Posts: 4,168	just look at the fifa 08 demo __________________

28-03-2008, 09:46 PM	#27 (permalink)
ponka00 Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norway Gender: Male Posts: 1,851	The skill moves is much better. Now you can actually pass a defender with stepovers. And the animations for skills are much better.

28-03-2008, 09:54 PM	#28 (permalink)
jetsallez Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 352	I guess but football is more about general passing than skill moves. If they make it to easy with the tricks then its not going to play anything like actual football. Prefer a more solid passing style game... skill moves should be kept to a minimum IMO

28-03-2008, 09:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
androctonvs Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 239	i haven't been dominating the games nearly as much as you guys. maybe i'm still thinking much too "fifa08"

29-03-2008, 01:49 AM	#31 (permalink)
dlbbRogueTrader Rookie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 119	Remove All Cut Scenes!!

29-03-2008, 02:29 AM	#32 (permalink)
Welsh Nige Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Neath, South Wales UK Age: 27 Gender: Male Posts: 822	quit moaning, this game is gonna be class............ roll on 18th apr

29-03-2008, 06:59 PM	#35 (permalink)
CowRonaldo Forum Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,576	Yeah, I think some are overreacting, since demos aren't the full game. There are probably features left out and tweaks to the difficulty levels and AI.

29-03-2008, 08:18 PM	#37 (permalink)
M1ZZ0U Forum Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Second City Posts: 3,990	Hopefully the debated quirks are ironed out before release. The one advantage Americans have in getting the game released a month later is that we don't have to be test-rats. If the game sucks, none of us will have wasted our money on it by the time word gets out. __________________

29-03-2008, 08:25 PM	#39 (permalink)
M1ZZ0U Forum Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Second City Posts: 3,990	Obviously, I agree. Welcome aboard Viserys. __________________

29-03-2008, 09:06 PM	#40 (permalink)
Wepeeler FIFA & EURO Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bris-dull CT, USA Age: 28 Gender: Male Posts: 5,992	The cutscenes are fine, but I wish EA would put more angles in for the replays after the goal. Mix it up a bit, it's the same 3 angles all the time! The demo of EURO is better than the full version of FIFA 08, so I'm happy ALso, if EA made the keepers "better", most everyone would complain about that. Wait until the full version to gripe about them... __________________ FIFA 10 vs PES 2010 Comparison Double Post Mayhem Updated!!! FIFA 10 Demo Goals 2

29-03-2008, 09:14 PM	#41 (permalink)
amantle94 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 229	I Love the way certain players run.Look on france toulalan runs different to anelka.Which i think is cool.

30-03-2008, 06:35 PM	#45 (permalink)
M1ZZ0U Forum Junkie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Second City Posts: 3,990	I think it's our responsibility as consumers to bring certain qualities or lack there of to EA's attention, not only pre-EURO 2008' but post EURO 2008'. This of course, is in the hopes that, as you said, FIFA 09' is the best product available on the market for a football game. Whether or not EA will listen, I couldn't tell you. But ya gotta try, right? __________________

30-03-2008, 09:34 PM	#48 (permalink)
CowRonaldo Forum Guru Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,576	Some minor but noticeable passing issues from both FIFA and Euro games: 1. Players use their weak foot too often and use it unneccessarily. 2. Players use outside foot to pass too much. It is overused in the game since players most of the time use their inside foot in real life. Not really a huge deal, but fixing it would add more realism.

31-03-2008, 12:09 AM	#49 (permalink)
Viserys Rookie Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Italy Age: 31 Posts: 50	I agree with BoulDvd a more control over players doesnt mean they have to run so fast, and it doesnt mean we need to speed up the game. We can have a faster response without speed up the game pace. I noticed byotherhand that the field seems now a little bit smaller than in fifa08.. I think that a game like fifa can satisfy both hardcore players and casual players..for that we have manual controls and assist controls..its enough to satisfy everyone we dont need an arcade version of fifa08. Last edited by Viserys; 31-03-2008 at 12:12 AM..

31-03-2008, 04:20 AM	#50 (permalink)
II Sathiroth II Forum Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,023	Lets start with questions first....... 1. Will the rain effects be used in ranked games ? If not WHY.... 2. Why no 5v5 ? Pros: Great improvement from Fifa 08 in all area's. New ball physics. New camera view "CO-OP camera" which i love by the way. Create you own celebration. Great sound track as always. Fantastic commentary and general effect sounds. New passing meter which works great. New weather effects including field conditions change, mud & water spots. New penalty & free kick system. Tricks now works Through balls work alot better and smother. Cons: Same graphics except with the amazing cut scenes. No 5v5 No referee on pitch or side line referee either. No more arena practice. Constant cut scenes. So ok overall this game kicks some serious butt, but lets not go overboard i mean its still Fifa 09 beta even if they say its not. But im still going to get anyway becasue its a great improvent from Fifa 08, and lets not forget EA works there butt to get these games the best they can for us in the time they have SO APPRECIATE IT....