Campaign for no more overhype!

Dan78 · 03-03-2009, 08:58 AM

Well, it seems that everyone on these forums has created at least one campaign. So I’ll join the folks and create one of my own. This one is about overhype and false advertising.

We, the campaign members, are upset of false advertising and overhype made by EA about SPORE and its expansions. Before release of the original product, there was too much of promises and too much of hype. Too much of features were claimed, too much of definitions given.

Let’s take, for example, a phrase from one of these trailers: “It will take a lifetime to travel all over the galaxy!” Before game release, we hoped that this means variable, dynamic gameplay that allows for many possibilities. What followed after release was total disappointment. Technically, there are millions of stars, and it REALLY takes long time to visit them all. BUT, there’s no sense doing so, because they are almost the same. If you visited ten of them, you’ve seen them all – in terms of gameplay, at least.

The same applies for almost ANY pre-release statement. Many promised features were dropped. Many were locked out or kept for future expansion packs. Many still remain there, but in such form that they are irrelevant or insignificant.

Now we are waiting for another release, this time it’s SPORE expansion pack, Galactic Adventures. And the story repeats. There are promises again. There are feature claims again. There are loud phrases again. There’s HYPE yet again. And, as always, there’s too much room for guesswork and no real info on what we will get in that expansion.

Dear EA and Maxis. You’ve drawn our attention to SPORE and related products. You’ve got our money. Now, PLEASE, stop this overhype, we don’t want it. We don’t want to lose our hopes, we don’t want to be disappointed yet again. Just give us accurate, relevant info, so we could make justified purchase decision. We know you can do it – at least it worked with most of The Sims expansions (not all, unfortunately). And it will help not only us, your loyal customers. Giving accurate info will benefit developers and publishers as well, because it will be easier for you to concentrate on target audience, rather than spread your resources to satisfy everyone. Also it cuts marketing costs, increasing rentability.

So PLEASE, no more hype. ONLY accurate info, and ONLY when you are confident that the info is accurate. Thank You in advance.

warlored · 03-03-2009, 09:09 AM

Tats corect 2009 is a time for change

OverlordZim · 03-03-2009, 09:17 AM

I think a lot of fans are to blame for hype as well. There were rumours abound before Spore was released, most of them had never been mentioned by Maxis or EA. So I say to fans as well: don't start hype either! Stop expecting the next expansion to be absolutely amazing! Maxis are working on a lot of other projects and since Spore took about 5 years to make, we can't expect too much from not even 1 years worth.

warlored · 03-03-2009, 10:15 AM

10 years it was a secret for 5

Person012345 · 03-03-2009, 02:11 PM

No. The fans create the hype, not EA. Of course EA want it to look good, they want to sell the damn thing. It's when people say "lalalala it's going to be the best game ever made ever" that "overhype" happens. People get whipped up into a frenzy, order it as soon as it comes out and are dissapointed when it isn't the best game ever made ever. I didn't believe the hype (that it was going to be the best game ever made ever) and so I wasn't dissappointed with it. Sure it wasn't what I expected, but it's still a good game.

As for GA, I am expecting something good. I am actually probably most excited about beaming down, IDK there is just something so appealing about it. But I'm not going to expect the best expansion ever. It will be what it is. Also, I never pre-order games. So I can read the reviews rather than just the previews. If the reviews say it's **** I won't buy it.

Marcolon · 03-03-2009, 02:33 PM

This thread is pointless....

Dan78 · 03-03-2009, 02:40 PM

Why is this thread pointless?

And NO, it is EA/Maxis who create the hype. It is their promises and feature claims that whip people into frenzy. If there was more accurate info before release, many problems in SPORE community could be non-existent now.

Marcolon · 03-03-2009, 02:43 PM

Because its stupid to sart a campaign against hype!?

Hype is generated by the fans even without knowing it. Maxis and EA are not responsible for any hype thats created around their game.

Person012345 · 03-03-2009, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan78

Why is this thread pointless?

And NO, it is EA/Maxis who create the hype. It is their promises and feature claims that whip people into frenzy. If there was more accurate info before release, many problems in SPORE community could be non-existent now.

Or, they say what is in the game, make it sound as good as possible, and people get whipped up before the final version has even been produced. Just wait until it ****ing comes out for god's sake, then make up your mind. If it's EA's fault, then how come there are plenty of people around who heard the hype, but aren't dissappointed?

Marcolon · 03-03-2009, 02:46 PM

To make a game look as good as possible is simply just financial marketing

Menzobaranzan · 03-03-2009, 03:33 PM

Sorry wrong topic

WolvenGod · 03-03-2009, 04:44 PM

I agree with Marcolon

ValuJet2564 · 03-03-2009, 05:12 PM

EA and Maxis do not create the hype.
As I was not in the 'online community' (so to spealalalalail recently, I had never heard of it until there were a few ads on TV for it. People who trawl around game reviews and upcoming releases create their own hype, as the adverts were not exactly full of it.

Marcolon · 03-03-2009, 05:18 PM

The tv advert was a very bad showing of the game. They should've used the E3 08 trailer. That was truly epic.

STARFISH75 · 03-03-2009, 07:51 PM

The hype was started by Will Wright and his imfamous lectures on Youtube. The one's about Spore started in '05 and there has been at least one every year since. There are other lecture with Brian Eno talking about anthems and stuff. All lot of features, including video evidences for at least 3 extra stages some more at very early beta stages and discussion of others. Not to mension the dissapearance of the game mechanics he discussed, such at parts effecting gameplay and elements effecting planets.

I hope Maxis are still secretly beavering away at the game Mr Wright discussed in various demos ... looking forward in hope

Zepp95 · 03-03-2009, 07:53 PM

Games change in development. Gamers should know that.

Sp-Banega-0re · 03-03-2009, 07:58 PM

its too late for campaigning against spore's hype - its already out

lol

if you're talking about GA, the hype's because it looks so damn good!!

Dan78 · 03-03-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sp-Banega-0re

if you're talking about GA, the hype's because it looks so damn good!!

Yes, that's why I don't like this hype wave. I want more accurate info, and all they provide is hype. :/

Deza007 · 03-03-2009, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Person012345

No. The fans create the hype, not EA. Of course EA want it to look good, they want to sell the damn thing. It's when people say "lalalala it's going to be the best game ever made ever" that "overhype" happens. People get whipped up into a frenzy, order it as soon as it comes out and are dissapointed when it isn't the best game ever made ever. I didn't believe the hype (that it was going to be the best game ever made ever) and so I wasn't dissappointed with it. Sure it wasn't what I expected, but it's still a good game.

As for GA, I am expecting something good. I am actually probably most excited about beaming down, IDK there is just something so appealing about it. But I'm not going to expect the best expansion ever. It will be what it is. Also, I never pre-order games. So I can read the reviews rather than just the previews. If the reviews say it's **** I won't buy it.

I was hyped about force unleashed.
I was sad. Very sad.

ThumbsUp1 · 03-03-2009, 08:57 PM

I disslike the fact that they told us about all the features saying what amazing stuff you could do with it, I mean they could of mentioned the ishues they where having before the realise and state which ones are comfirmed.

Deza007 · 03-03-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbsUp1

I disslike the fact that they told us about all the features saying what amazing stuff you could do with it, I mean they could of mentioned the ishues they where having before the realise and state which ones are comfirmed.

And the fact that there would be loads of bugs and glitches and crashes.

Person012345 · 03-03-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan78

Yes, that's why I don't like this hype wave. I want more accurate info, and all they provide is hype. :/

So go somewhere that provides said info, don't blame the developers for making their own products look good. As has been said already, they want to sell the game. Also, learn not to get caught up in what people say. If they say "it's going to be amazing" instead of thinking "wow", think " how does he know that it will be amazing. It hasn't even been finished yet".

IGN: Spore: Galactic Adventures Preview

This is only a preview not a review and, as I said, I prefer reviews.

Also, a rule to live by in everything: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

Rebecca1208 · 03-03-2009, 09:14 PM

why campaign about us waiting and being dissapointed in spore? all we can do now is accept what we have and give the moderators helpful feedback and ideas that they can send to the EA team - if you're so dissapointed in it, send some ideas and make your gameplay better.

Nidking · 03-03-2009, 09:39 PM

Indeed, I agree with Marcolon and all supporters of Marcolon: You cannot remove hype once it has set in.

Rebecca1208 · 03-03-2009, 09:46 PM

Agreed.

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03-03-2009, 08:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dan78 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Age: 31 Posts: 334	Campaign for no more overhype! Well, it seems that everyone on these forums has created at least one campaign. So I’ll join the folks and create one of my own. This one is about overhype and false advertising. We, the campaign members, are upset of false advertising and overhype made by EA about SPORE and its expansions. Before release of the original product, there was too much of promises and too much of hype. Too much of features were claimed, too much of definitions given. Let’s take, for example, a phrase from one of these trailers: “It will take a lifetime to travel all over the galaxy!” Before game release, we hoped that this means variable, dynamic gameplay that allows for many possibilities. What followed after release was total disappointment. Technically, there are millions of stars, and it REALLY takes long time to visit them all. BUT, there’s no sense doing so, because they are almost the same. If you visited ten of them, you’ve seen them all – in terms of gameplay, at least. The same applies for almost ANY pre-release statement. Many promised features were dropped. Many were locked out or kept for future expansion packs. Many still remain there, but in such form that they are irrelevant or insignificant. Now we are waiting for another release, this time it’s SPORE expansion pack, Galactic Adventures. And the story repeats. There are promises again. There are feature claims again. There are loud phrases again. There’s HYPE yet again. And, as always, there’s too much room for guesswork and no real info on what we will get in that expansion. Dear EA and Maxis. You’ve drawn our attention to SPORE and related products. You’ve got our money. Now, PLEASE, stop this overhype, we don’t want it. We don’t want to lose our hopes, we don’t want to be disappointed yet again. Just give us accurate, relevant info, so we could make justified purchase decision. We know you can do it – at least it worked with most of The Sims expansions (not all, unfortunately). And it will help not only us, your loyal customers. Giving accurate info will benefit developers and publishers as well, because it will be easier for you to concentrate on target audience, rather than spread your resources to satisfy everyone. Also it cuts marketing costs, increasing rentability. So PLEASE, no more hype. ONLY accurate info, and ONLY when you are confident that the info is accurate. Thank You in advance. __________________ My SPORE Username is dnk778. And yes, CAMPAIGN FOR NO MORE OVERHYPE!

03-03-2009, 09:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
warlored Rookie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: the deep gates of hell aka the hive Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 308	Tats corect 2009 is a time for change __________________ plz no spelling bad comments i am dislexic and dis grafic

03-03-2009, 09:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
OverlordZim Forum Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Outside your house Gender: Private Posts: 1,538 Blog Entries: 1	I think a lot of fans are to blame for hype as well. There were rumours abound before Spore was released, most of them had never been mentioned by Maxis or EA. So I say to fans as well: don't start hype either! Stop expecting the next expansion to be absolutely amazing! Maxis are working on a lot of other projects and since Spore took about 5 years to make, we can't expect too much from not even 1 years worth. __________________

03-03-2009, 10:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
warlored Rookie Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: the deep gates of hell aka the hive Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 308	10 years it was a secret for 5 __________________ plz no spelling bad comments i am dislexic and dis grafic

03-03-2009, 02:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
Person012345 Forum Junkie Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Peterborough Posts: 2,536	No. The fans create the hype, not EA. Of course EA want it to look good, they want to sell the damn thing. It's when people say "lalalala it's going to be the best game ever made ever" that "overhype" happens. People get whipped up into a frenzy, order it as soon as it comes out and are dissapointed when it isn't the best game ever made ever. I didn't believe the hype (that it was going to be the best game ever made ever) and so I wasn't dissappointed with it. Sure it wasn't what I expected, but it's still a good game. As for GA, I am expecting something good. I am actually probably most excited about beaming down, IDK there is just something so appealing about it. But I'm not going to expect the best expansion ever. It will be what it is. Also, I never pre-order games. So I can read the reviews rather than just the previews. If the reviews say it's **** I won't buy it. Last edited by Person012345; 03-03-2009 at 02:15 PM..

03-03-2009, 02:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Marcolon Forum Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Århus, Denmark Gender: Male Posts: 4,793 Blog Entries: 6	This thread is pointless.... __________________ Sig requests: OPEN http://www.MSPE113.dragonadopters.com

03-03-2009, 02:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dan78 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Age: 31 Posts: 334	Why is this thread pointless? And NO, it is EA/Maxis who create the hype. It is their promises and feature claims that whip people into frenzy. If there was more accurate info before release, many problems in SPORE community could be non-existent now. __________________ My SPORE Username is dnk778. And yes, CAMPAIGN FOR NO MORE OVERHYPE!

03-03-2009, 02:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Marcolon Forum Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Århus, Denmark Gender: Male Posts: 4,793 Blog Entries: 6	Because its stupid to sart a campaign against hype!? Hype is generated by the fans even without knowing it. Maxis and EA are not responsible for any hype thats created around their game. __________________ Sig requests: OPEN http://www.MSPE113.dragonadopters.com

03-03-2009, 02:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Marcolon Forum Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Århus, Denmark Gender: Male Posts: 4,793 Blog Entries: 6	To make a game look as good as possible is simply just financial marketing __________________ Sig requests: OPEN http://www.MSPE113.dragonadopters.com

03-03-2009, 03:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
Menzobaranzan Rookie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Stevenage Gender: Male Posts: 92	Sorry wrong topic __________________ My game name is ShadowWolf1979 please leave comments on my creations/sporecasts. Thank you in advance. My creations page link http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=...79%3Afi-AUTHOR

03-03-2009, 04:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
WolvenGod Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: My Realm Age: 16 Gender: Male Posts: 843	I agree with Marcolon __________________ ALL HAIL TeH WoLvEnGoD!

03-03-2009, 05:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
ValuJet2564 Forum Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 3rd rock from Sol Age: 17 Gender: Male Posts: 4,858	EA and Maxis do not create the hype. As I was not in the 'online community' (so to spealalalalail recently, I had never heard of it until there were a few ads on TV for it. People who trawl around game reviews and upcoming releases create their own hype, as the adverts were not exactly full of it. __________________

03-03-2009, 05:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
Marcolon Forum Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Århus, Denmark Gender: Male Posts: 4,793 Blog Entries: 6	The tv advert was a very bad showing of the game. They should've used the E3 08 trailer. That was truly epic. __________________ Sig requests: OPEN http://www.MSPE113.dragonadopters.com

03-03-2009, 07:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
STARFISH75 Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: London Gender: Male Posts: 784	The hype was started by Will Wright and his imfamous lectures on Youtube. The one's about Spore started in '05 and there has been at least one every year since. There are other lecture with Brian Eno talking about anthems and stuff. All lot of features, including video evidences for at least 3 extra stages some more at very early beta stages and discussion of others. Not to mension the dissapearance of the game mechanics he discussed, such at parts effecting gameplay and elements effecting planets. I hope Maxis are still secretly beavering away at the game Mr Wright discussed in various demos ... looking forward in hope

03-03-2009, 07:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
Zepp95 Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Isle of Man Age: 14 Gender: Male Posts: 3,366	Games change in development. Gamers should know that. __________________

03-03-2009, 07:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
Sp-Banega-0re Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Lowestoft, Suffolk Age: 15 Gender: Male Posts: 1,212 Blog Entries: 2	its too late for campaigning against spore's hype - its already out lol if you're talking about GA, the hype's because it looks so damn good!! __________________ And so the bright phoenix of the future arose from the dusty ashes of the past and took wing, towards the vast cosmos http://tinyurl.com/m5uxo8 My creations

03-03-2009, 08:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
ThumbsUp1 Forum Junkie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Over there... no where I'm pointing, no look there, damn you missed. Gender: Private Posts: 3,657	I disslike the fact that they told us about all the features saying what amazing stuff you could do with it, I mean they could of mentioned the ishues they where having before the realise and state which ones are comfirmed. __________________

03-03-2009, 09:14 PM	#23 (permalink)
Rebecca1208 Elite Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In the deepest, darkest depths of insanity... and I suppose Hampton, London Age: 15 Gender: Female Posts: 8,402	why campaign about us waiting and being dissapointed in spore? all we can do now is accept what we have and give the moderators helpful feedback and ideas that they can send to the EA team - if you're so dissapointed in it, send some ideas and make your gameplay better. __________________ Spore Profile · DeviantArt · YouTube

03-03-2009, 09:39 PM	#24 (permalink)
Nidking Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Anywhere humanity cannot go without Nature's help Age: 15 Gender: Male Posts: 930	Indeed, I agree with Marcolon and all supporters of Marcolon: You cannot remove hype once it has set in. __________________ Guardian of Animals. "Why do you take my land and I don't take yours? Where do the Wolves belong? Nidking." Made by Thumbsup1, I'm indebted to him.

03-03-2009, 09:46 PM	#25 (permalink)
Rebecca1208 Elite Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: In the deepest, darkest depths of insanity... and I suppose Hampton, London Age: 15 Gender: Female Posts: 8,402	Agreed. __________________ Spore Profile · DeviantArt · YouTube