Buy and play without SecuRom is Possible...

[reza666]

Today my friend and i made a cool experiment that i like to share with you guys.
I hope this is not against the forum rules, cant really see why it should be but anyway.

My friend is as ****ed as i am for the max 3 time activation and the rootkit so what he did was this, he bought the game from a local store and then he downloaded the game over internet and installed this version using the real key that he has bought. Now he can both play online (atleast he could connect to his account) and at the same time no bloody virus on his pc

Thinking of doing the same thing next week. Does anyone know if this will limit the online gaming in anyway? Securom as i understand does not affect the online gaming but i might be wrong?

[tangfastic91]

good idea. any clues people?

[Mistran]

It's still illegal. Besides, if you worry about viruses, delete any firewall or anti virus you have. They interfer and SCAN your computer, while sending information to their developer.

[tangfastic91]

Yes but in the contract with them it says we're allowed to sue them if they contact any third parties. Did you sign contract with SecuROM when you installed the game? No, didnt think so, it doesnt announce its arrival like that

[Mistran]

Actually, it's included in the EULA i believe. And i have never signed any contracts with the anti virus companies. Besides, SecuROM never sends any data but your system performance. Hell, i bet this forum is tracking your browsing right now!

[reza666]

i simply hate DRM, no matter how it works and what it does as simple as that. In this case you get installation limitation which force you to call a support in order to let you play for a game you payed for. Even worst you can not remove the bloody files from SecuRom. I forgot to mention my friend had to remove his Daemon tools in order to start the game, otherwise he got an error code. How's that customer friendly ?
I trust my Antivirus (Nod32) and i KNOW when i uninstall the program it removes all the files.

[Mistran]

I had that antivirus, and no matter how many times i removed it, it always stuck to the registry. No program EVER removes itself. And i removed several DRM programs without problems using CCleaner.

[flatfroggerx]

Originally Posted by reza666

Today my friend and i made a cool experiment that i like to share with you guys.
I hope this is not against the forum rules, cant really see why it should be but anyway.

My friend is as ****ed as i am for the max 3 time activation and the rootkit so what he did was this, he bought the game from a local store and then he downloaded the game over internet and installed this version using the real key that he has bought. Now he can both play online (atleast he could connect to his account) and at the same time no bloody virus on his pc

Thinking of doing the same thing next week. Does anyone know if this will limit the online gaming in anyway? Securom as i understand does not affect the online gaming but i might be wrong?

His "friend" downloaded the reload release of spore and used his legitimate key during install, after the install completed he used the crack packed with the downloaded version to bypass the games activation.

Since he has a legit key it successfully verifies with EA and the sporepedia, since he has the crack he never has to activate. Simple, really.

Originally Posted by Mistran

Actually, it's included in the EULA i believe. And i have never signed any contracts with the anti virus companies. Besides, SecuROM never sends any data but your system performance. Hell, i bet this forum is tracking your browsing right now!

Wrong. It isn't, it never is. Need I remind you that EULAs also do not stand up in court? Right so you are claiming these forums are spreading tracking cookies.... sure...

Originally Posted by Mistran

It's still illegal. Besides, if you worry about viruses, delete any firewall or anti virus you have. They interfer and SCAN your computer, while sending information to their developer.

Not really, its more of a grey area. All he did is download an image of the dvd and used something to bypass the protection which would hinder him from otherwise playing. Hes only doing it to access what he paid for which is actually allowed under fair use. As for your point on antiviral programs interfering and sending info back to the developers, purely moot at best.

For a start you can stop them sending info back, 2nd even if it did it only sends back patterns of items which act suspiciously back, not a whole copy of your data, that would take so much time and bandwidth it would be stupid. More so which you rather have scanning your harddrive a greedy company who wants to put your PC on lockdown because you MIGHT pirate something or a company who spots suspicious activity help prevent against further threats to your PC? The choices the choices...

[avp2501]

Originally Posted by reza666

Today my friend and i made a cool experiment that i like to share with you guys.
I hope this is not against the forum rules, cant really see why it should be but anyway.

My friend is as ****ed as i am for the max 3 time activation and the rootkit so what he did was this, he bought the game from a local store and then he downloaded the game over internet and installed this version using the real key that he has bought. Now he can both play online (atleast he could connect to his account) and at the same time no bloody virus on his pc

Thinking of doing the same thing next week. Does anyone know if this will limit the online gaming in anyway? Securom as i understand does not affect the online gaming but i might be wrong?

Why. whats the point? the crack disables the need for the dvd and if it disables securom then you wouldn't be able to play any other securom protected games. when a new patch comes out you won't be able to update your game since your not using the original exe file which means you won't be able to use the online features anyway. you actually wasted your time downloading 4gb for a 30mb file.

[flatfroggerx]

Originally Posted by avp2501

Why. whats the point? the crack disables the need for the dvd and if it disables securom then you wouldn't be able to play any other securom protected games. when a new patch comes out you won't be able to update your game since your not using the original exe file which means you won't be able to use the online features anyway. you actually wasted your time downloading 4gb for a 30mb file.

Wrong. It disables securoms need to activate spore in doing so it removes the need for the dvd. He can install another game using securom and be fine. When a patch comes out he doesn't have to update at that very moment he could just wait for a new crack which there will be. He could just reinstall the game then patch then crack again, really isn't a hassle.

But yeah I agree he wasted all that time downloading the whole thing when he could of just got the file separately.

[reza666]

well 4G download take me 1h so no biggy and many times i seen standalone patch files but in any case that's a later problem.
as flatfroggerx says its really isnt a hassle.

[flatfroggerx]

Its more of a hassle emailing/phoning EA and getting them to reset used up activations than it is to download a small file and backup and replace an exist one.

[AnthraxNightbane]

Originally Posted by reza666

Today my friend and i made a cool experiment that i like to share with you guys.
I hope this is not against the forum rules, cant really see why it should be but anyway.

My friend is as ****ed as i am for the max 3 time activation and the rootkit so what he did was this, he bought the game from a local store and then he downloaded the game over internet and installed this version using the real key that he has bought. Now he can both play online (atleast he could connect to his account) and at the same time no bloody virus on his pc

Thinking of doing the same thing next week. Does anyone know if this will limit the online gaming in anyway? Securom as i understand does not affect the online gaming but i might be wrong?

If that actually works youre a genius

[reza666]

welll it does work, we have played for a few hours last night and we were connected online. Not really sure about how and when you can play with others, we think when you get a airship you can fly to other players but so far its really fun to play single so we didnt bother about it. I will buy mine tomorrow so will test some more.
Cool thing is we played around with the save game and it was simple to backup the save and move it to another installtion so i will just continue

[Mistran]

Originally Posted by flatfroggerx

Its more of a hassle emailing/phoning EA and getting them to reset used up activations than it is to download a small file and backup and replace an exist one.

And risk getting your internet shut off and sued? It takes max 10 minutes to get your activations reset, while it takes less than a minute for them to shut off your internet. 7 people i know have had their internet shut off thanks to piracy.

[Mokkun]

Originally Posted by Mistran

And risk getting your internet shut off and sued? It takes max 10 minutes to get your activations reset, while it takes less than a minute for them to shut off your internet. 7 people i know have had their internet shut off thanks to piracy.

What kind of dictator ship country have such moronic rules?
One of the benefits of living in Norway, they have (yet) to make such a stupid rule.. and well, why yust not encrypt your connection.. if you do that, they can not find out what you are downloading.

[EAUK_Aurora]

Please do not discuss illegally downloading games on the forum, for whatever reason you are doing it. It is against the rules.

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