what is secuROM?

[Gorai]

Originally Posted by Mezakin

so three activations makes people go out and get a crack?

Yes, because people don't want stuff they bought TO HAVE FREAKING LIMITED INSTALLS.

i bet more people still buy it more than hack it

By hack I'm guessing you also mean downloading illegally? Well that's obvious. You can say this statement about every game.

However if you mean by hack all the copy protection out of it, well yeah, most game developers aren't lalalalalalaed and put these utterly lalalalalalaed restrictions on a game. Nice way to slap your legit customers in the face.

and still that does not mean secuROM makes people get a hack

Enjoy in a couple of years time when you find yourself installing it for the 4th time have fun not being able to play a game YOU bought with YOUR money which therefore is YOUR property.

If I find myself in this situation then **** you too whoever decided to put this lalalala into games, I am not buying something I already own for the second time when I've done nothing wrong. I will download the game from torrents and proceed to seed it for the rest of my days.

[Mezakin]

Originally Posted by Naenia

no it doesnt make it harder...all is needed is ONE copy to get cracked..the crack is released then its upto other people to get that crack and have a cracked game...

as i said theft is only ever prevented effectivly by the choice of the person to not steal. like the cars not all cars get stolen only because people choose not to do it...they can have all the alarms and gadgets it wants, someone will still steal it if they want to

hmm what do you think will be harder to steal/hack? a car with no alarm or locking and a spore with no SecuROM OR this is a little crazy so bare with me.... A car WITH a alarm and locking and spore WITH secuROM?

now if you go back and read the thread title... its for a explanation of what SecuROM IS! so, go on to SecuROM and have a good read on what its designed to do. Like a lock and alarm to a car to prevent theft SecuROM is to Software to stop hacks, copying and cloning

[Mezakin]

Jeez....How do i reech dese keeds?

[Gorai]

olol ok m8 :))))

[Naenia]

umm...people get past car locks...regardless of what the cars does

regardless of what securom does...poeple will crack it, regardless of its methods to stop cracking it WILL happen. its prevents NOTHING

its the person indivudual choice to not crack or to crack. its the individual person choice to steal or not steal a car...it doesnt matter if its locked up it will get stolen if someone chooses to do so. same with securom, it can do whatever it wants...like people can...they can crack it if they want

so, if these methods did work thered be NO cracked games, no cracked copy protection at all...but there is so its wasted effort

[Mezakin]

Originally Posted by Naenia

umm...people get past car locks...regardless of what the cars does

regardless of what securom does...poeple will crack it, regardless of its methods to stop cracking it WILL happen. its prevents NOTHING

oh god do you listen?

it slows it down and if peolpe WANT to crack spore i never said they coudnt JUST THE SAME AS A CRIMINAL WITH A CAR! they WILL break into the car if they want to. and the car was a sample.

now please i try and be polite to people but please stop being a idiot and read what ive said properly and your self before you once again repeat your self and contradict your self

[Naenia]

how am i contradicting?

your saying securom will prevent cracks and piracy..my behind it will...it will get cracked, securom protects nothing at all

to contradict id have to say something that goes against what i just said...all i said was its a copy protection that doesnt protect..its not really that good. and the car sample...locks and alarms dont prevent it form being stolen...just the same as securom doenst lock the game from being cracked

[Mezakin]

Originally Posted by Naenia

how am i contradicting?

your saying securom will prevent cracks and piracy..my behind i will...i will get cracked, securom protects nothing at all

a prevention PREVENTS does not Garunetee. read up prevent.

[Gorai]

Originally Posted by Mezakin

a prevention PREVENTS does not Garunetee. read up prevent.

Definitions of prevent on the Web:
keep from happening or arising; make impossible

Haha.

define: prevent - Google Search

[Mezakin]

Originally Posted by Gorai

Definitions of prevent on the Web:
keep from happening or arising; make impossible

Haha.

define: prevent - Google Search

A bullet proof vest prevents bullets from enetering the body does it 100% stop it?

thats why i compared the car and lock. so you your selp

[Naenia]

yeah you do not know what that word is, if it gets cracked how is that preventing it from being cracked?

so yes, prevention means to stop something

i think securom ATTEMPTS to prevent...its doesnt actually prevent at all

sure nothing is 100% i admit but securom really doesnt work at all..not even a little bit, not in the slightest

a bullet proof vest does work to some degree...yes it doesnt prevent...but it only PARTIALLY prevents, sooner or later itll break and the bullets get in the body thats why people change the vest for a new non shot one cus it doesnt work forever and doesnt keep preventing, so it only works a bit

[Gorai]

Originally Posted by Mezakin

A bullet proof vest prevents bullets from enetering the body does it 100% stop it?

But they don't claim bulletproof vests to prevent bulletlalalalaing your skin.

[Mezakin]

theres no point with you. your obviously just a stubborn hater of SecuROM....so whats point?

be open.

and bottom line:

if you dont like secuROM tough! its on spore. so have it or dont have spore

[Treesap]

Yes people do get past car locks, however they stop anybody (who just happens to come along) from being able to steal them. The, err i mean one of the, problems with securom is that securom helps to stop pirates while annoying the user, whilst a car lock and alarm do the same sort of anti-stealing effect while hardly annoying the user (you just have to press a tiny button to open your car). Somebody who really wants to steal something (unless its a nuclear missile or something) can easily steal it, and no amount of extra protection car manufacturers or EA put on their products are going to help.

Ea's old anti-theft system was like a cars anti-theft because it kept totally out of your way unless you tried to copy your game, while securom is always there even if you don't try to copy your game.

The Securom application itself is also ABSOLUTLY POINTLESS for a game like spore because if you look at the the architecture it semms like it will not stop anyting which will stop theft (or at least from what i have seen from it). The activation system that comes with securom does have a point, however an activation system could easily be added into spore to connect the EA's servers and verify etc. , while the securom application and rootkit could be dumped. So in my opinion EA chose an anti-theft system with complelt the wrong archetecture for how spore works. However i could be wrong because i am too busy to do any (more) research.

[Mezakin]

Originally Posted by Gorai

But they don't claim bulletproof vests to prevent bulletlalalalaing your skin.

its a prevention

[Mezakin]

prevention is the attempt to reduce

look prevent: Prevention up on wikipedia

[Gorai]

Originally Posted by Mezakin

its a prevention

Le sigh.

It's a protective piece of clothing to help absorb the impact of bullets.

[Naenia]

but not a full one...so eventually, itll stop preventing

edit..that was to mezakins post

[Mezakin]

Originally Posted by Naenia

but not a full one...so eventually, itll stop preventing

edit..that was to mezakins post

how do i reech these keeds?

[Naenia]

uhh insults admit defeat in this case....so yeah. iv used logic and havent lost my nerve like you seem to be doing (even slightly)

securom = usless, no matter what it was designed to do....

[Gorai]

How do idiots manage to find their way on to the internet. Seriously.

[Naenia]

do you know what...no idea

[flixern]

Whats the point with a prevention that might contain malware and rootkit?

[Wishbone77]

Originally Posted by Mezakin

Jeez....How do i reech dese keeds?

Start by using a metaphor that isn't flawed to begin with. You don't seem to understand how piracy works.

Yes, SecuROM prevents people from buying the game, and then making copies of their disc for their friends. I don't think a lot of this is going on anyway.

No, SecuROM does not prevent enterprising computer whiz kids from hacking out the protection of the game, bypassing the authentication/activation, and torrenting a finished product without these things, for everyone and his cousin to download.

Also, SecuROM has several unsavoury characteristics, all of which have been discussed endlessly in the Copy Protection sticky. Common to them all is that they affect only the buying customers, not the people who download a pirated version of the game. Hence, the pirates have a better product.

Now please, someone close this thread. Keep it to the sticky.

[Treesap]

To EA a prevention is prevention and they don't care if there normal customers have to pay the price. All the care about is less piracy for more sales for more profit.