Spore Copy Protection Q&A - Page 57

Ateyate · 10-09-2008, 05:14 AM

I've got a question.

Let's say someone walks into any store that sells Spore, buys the game, brings it home, clones the disc(s), takes the activation codes and returns the game (as most stores allow you to do so within 14 days), does this mean that 'somone' gets completely free Spore?

Dankidus · 10-09-2008, 05:58 AM

What does forcing activation limits do for anti piracy in the first place?

Omni · 10-09-2008, 10:22 AM

We have posted up an FAQ regarding the DRM included in SPORE. This can be found by clicking here

Mokkun · 10-09-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAUK_Omni

We have posted up an FAQ regarding the DRM included in SPORE. This can be found by clicking here

even propaganda have more info that that.. cant be called a faq, as there are many more questions frequently asked in this thread. please update the faq whit some real answers.

SetoHamasaki · 10-09-2008, 10:58 AM

Have a question:
The FAQ said that multiple installing on a computer didn't cout as installing on multiple computer so :

After installing Spore , I need to format my computer for some reasons and install Spore agains . Does it cout as installing on another computer

?

JoKiv · 10-09-2008, 01:38 PM

I still want to buy Spore but not malware with it; so I just need to wait or skip that excellent game. My friend bought that game and I have played couple of hours.

Peteuplink2 · 10-09-2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAUK_Omni

We have posted up an FAQ regarding the DRM included in SPORE. This can be found by clicking here

You guys are joking right? We dont want FAQ's we don't want more activations...

WE WANT SECUROM GONE!

How hard is it to understand?

Rogue440A · 10-09-2008, 03:42 PM

I have not read about the DRM limitation before buying, so thanks for the "no-warning".
What I am missing is the following: EA is all about money. I do not mind, but I want to have something in return when I pay (and not buying a cat in a bag as we say in my country - Belgium- it is not what I have in mind). By putting this idiot limitation, not only people do not buy the game, but since everbody wants to know what the hype is about, they crack/hack the game! So EA, keep to your strategy: remove the limitation, make big publicity around it and make more money. Coincidently it goes together with what the user community wants, so do not forget to exploit that argument.

Shireknight · 10-09-2008, 04:45 PM

From the EA faq

Quote:

The DRM solution implemented for the Spore and Spore Creature Creator changes copy protection from being key-disc based, which requires authentication every time you play the game by requiring a disc in the drive, to a one-time online authentication. This system has the added benefit of allowing you to seamlessly play your game without requiring the game disc in the drive.

You are trying to fix an issue here that does not even exist, the vast majority of people do not mind having a disk in their PC while playing games -we have been doing this ever since games first came out. If people really don't want a disk in their PC then there are freely available cracks to make this possible or if your that concerned about it you could release your own official cracks to help those people out just like Egosoft do for their games.

Quote:

This system allows you to authenticate your game on three computers with the purchase of one disc. EA Customer Service is on hand to supply any additional authorizations that are warranted. This will be done on a case-by-case basis by contacting Customer Support.

Warranted? OMG!!! this statement is so insulting to the consumer I'm amazed that you even dared post it. I need to justify to YOU why I want to install MY computer game onto a 4th computer or for the 4th time? that is disgusting Electronic Arts.

I could really, really blow this into a major blast at EA right now and post it all over the web but I think I better just stop this post here and go chill out for a couple of hours before I do something really serious.

trippynet · 10-09-2008, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAUK_Omni

We have posted up an FAQ regarding the DRM included in SPORE. This can be found by clicking here

Whilst I appreciate that you've replied, some of the data in that FAQ is just plain incorrect.

For example:

Quote:

Q: Why are Maxis and EA implementing this new authentication process?
A: This solution serves to protect our software from piracy.

No it doesn't! Until you lot get it into your thick skulls that DRM has sod all effect on protecting your software from piracy then you're going to keep on applying it and keep on PROMOTING piracy instead.

Does anyone at EA even have a brain? That needs to be added to the FAQ as well come to think of it...

trippynet · 10-09-2008, 06:12 PM

ignore

GreenieGenie87 · 10-09-2008, 06:30 PM

Lucy Bradshaw, Spore's exec producer, also seemed to think that EA are doing the customers a favour recently.

Quote:

Finally, Bradshaw commented on the game's anti-piracy measures - always a thorny issue with PC gamers, but not something you should fear in Spore's case, according to the game's executive producer.

"We do have copy protection, it is a necessary part of our biz, but we've worked to make it something that does not punish the legit owners," Bradshaw said.

"You need to authenticate once at the first install. This happens online. You can install on three separate computers and you do need to register for the online features."

Say WHAT? SecuROM does not punish the legit owners? I've never heard so much tosh.

flatfroggerx · 10-09-2008, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAUK_Omni

We have posted up an FAQ regarding the DRM included in SPORE. This can be found by clicking here

It could do with some improving:

Q: Am I able to play my game on more than one computer? Do I need the disc for that?
A: You'll be able to install and play your game on up to three computers without the need of the game disc. Your computer is authorized after installation and the initial launch of the game.

Would lead people to believe that you are allowed to use multiple accounts. You can't. No where in that FAQ does it state its 1 key 1 account which is a pain, i'm pretty certain in 2007 someone from EA said you could have multiple accounts due to this new activation scheme which wasn't 100% revealed back then but no its 1 key 1 account 3 activations 1 screwed customer. Even though the fact that the manual states YOU CAN use multiple accounts, theres a thread in the support forums regarding it.

Q: Will I still be able to play my game offline?
A: Yes, you can play offline, however, we do hope that you will play online. Sharing creatures, buildings, and vehicles with other players is something that is unique to Spore and Spore Creature Creator, and is one of the coolest features of the game.

Contradictory, its at least worth saying that that its only possible once you have activated.

Those aside:

Q: Why are Maxis and EA implementing this new authentication process?
A: This solution serves to protect our software from piracy. It has the added benefit of allowing you to activate your game on multiple machines without needing the game disc in the drive when playing the game.

Not really, who cares if you need the cd you are being screwed in the long run. Spore was cracked easily before launch ITS ONLY GOING TO GET DONE QUICKER AND EASIER in the future. Its pointless, why not move to a system like steam where you need to sign in and it authenticates you (NOT activate), if you chose to work offline you have 2 weeks to log back in to authenticate yourself again. Allow the key to be registered against 3 EA accounts NOT 3 activations which are dependant on PC's.

One thing companies like EA whine about especially when it comes to testing is that there is so many configurations of PC. So why the hell they stuck a system which is 100% dependant that a machines configuration is STATIC I do not know, if I ever find the person in EA who though that was a good idea i'll hit them with a shovel.

flatfroggerx · 10-09-2008, 06:57 PM

Edit, ignore this post the forums went crazy and kept redirecting forever :/

kingy123 · 10-09-2008, 07:02 PM

IM SICK OF THIS NOT WORKING....!!!

I WAITED 3 years for a ofline only piece of lalalala.... realy cant belive it...

The main problem is, we're not getting any info at all about anything thats going on, not even to tell us whats happend, let alone how long its gunna take...!!

So.. i've had enough.. im takeing it back tomo!!!

Thanks for nothing, realy, u dont tell us anything... big let down

sort it out EA!!!

kingy123 · 10-09-2008, 07:04 PM

Screw it... im sick of this, im tired of nothing ever working properly, 3 YEARS I WAITED FOR THIS OFLINE ONLY PIECE OF lalalala...

The main problem is that NOTHING is being said to us... instead they give us random lalalala.. i mean why the hell would we want a FAQ page, why not just get the game working first...

im sick of it, takeing it back tomo.. thanks for nothing EA

Charca · 10-09-2008, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardtofi

Sorry to burst your bubble mr I-can-see-into-the-future but have you heard about a company called Nintendo? If not I recommend you to look up this super duper "technology of the future", and how impossible it is to pirate.

Back to topic:
I think it's great people are reacting. Maybe this one time it can actually make a change. This whole issue (and the starting post) smells bad.

my first computor was a bbc,you telling me that computer have not change.

?

they have change and will change,so yes I can see into the future

.....

best regards ..charca..

Charca · 10-09-2008, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardtofi

Sorry to burst your bubble mr I-can-see-into-the-future but have you heard about a company called Nintendo? If not I recommend you to look up this super duper "technology of the future", and how impossible it is to pirate.

Back to topic:
I think it's great people are reacting. Maybe this one time it can actually make a change. This whole issue (and the starting post) smells bad.

my first computor was a bbc,you telling me that computer have not change.

?

they have change and will change,so yes I can see into the future

.....

best regards ..charca..

Anodine · 10-09-2008, 08:10 PM

DRM, frankly, is a rediculious way to try and protect your software.It disgusts me that as a legitimate owner of a piece of software im limited to the number of times i can legally install this item without the bother of contacting people i shouldnt need to contact.

Frankly, using this "anti-piracy" solution is going to potentially drive more people to pirate the game, because that way they dont have to worry/think about registering/reinstalling issues.

Of course, i doubt EA will listen to its customer base for one second, why should it, its far to large a company now to care what its customer's think, right?

I'll just be particularly specific which games i purchase from now on, and if at all possible, avoid EA software.

Eroneouse · 10-09-2008, 10:59 PM

Not only is it a very unpopular system but its also a buggy one too going off the tech help forum, quite a few people with authentification probs and activation probs also a number of people who cant access the sporepedia and cant get the game to log on. If the majority of these are DRM and SecuROM related EA you could go a long way to fixing many probs by takeing it out.

EntropicLqd · 10-09-2008, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EAUK_Omni

We have posted up an FAQ regarding the DRM included in SPORE. This can be found by clicking here

Hi Omni (great name for an admin type dude),

Do you want me to go through the thread to dig out all the questions that are not covered by the FAQ?

flatfroggerx · 11-09-2008, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EntropicLqd

Hi Omni (great name for an admin type dude),

Do you want me to go through the thread to dig out all the questions that are not covered by the FAQ?

I would like to think that FAQ is work in progress, it probably isn't though >_>

Braidedheadman · 11-09-2008, 01:34 AM

Why post a link to a regurgitated, so-called FAQ that sounds more like a promotional brochure with the number of times it tries to sell, "Look! You can play without the discs!" as though it's something novel we should all be proud of? Seriously, that line is repeated more often than any other point made in that "FAQ", none of whose questions are "Frequently Asked" at all. The whole thing reeks of contrived, corporate propaganda and smoke screens.

I, for one, never asked whether or not I could play Spore without the disc in the tray. It's just not a selling feature. The lifetime limitation, however, of just three, and only three, activations most certainly is. Despite its description, it's an anti-consumer feature more than it is anti-piracy and it's a massive dealbreaker for anyone with half a brain.

Mistran · 11-09-2008, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braidedheadman

Why post a link to a regurgitated, so-called FAQ that sounds more like a promotional brochure with the number of times it tries to sell, "Look! You can play without the discs!" as though it's something novel we should all be proud of? Seriously, that line is repeated more often than any other point made in that "FAQ", none of whose questions are "Frequently Asked" at all. The whole thing reeks of contrived, corporate propaganda and smoke screens.

I, for one, never asked whether or not I could play Spore without the disc in the tray. It's just not a selling feature. The lifetime limitation, however, of just three, and only three, activations most certainly is. Despite its description, it's an anti-consumer feature more than it is anti-piracy and it's a massive dealbreaker for anyone with half a brain.

It was the community's choice. Apparently, 3 lifetime activations are better than activating the game every 10th day.

Shireknight · 11-09-2008, 04:33 AM

Well if they were the only 2 choices to pick from it's not surprising people went for 3 activations, that's like asking people who hate sprouts if they would like 3 sprouts over their entire lifetime or 1 sprout every 10 days for their entire lifetime.

Er I'd like no sprouts full stop please!

10-09-2008, 05:14 AM	#1401 (permalink)
Ateyate Rookie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 249	I've got a question. Let's say someone walks into any store that sells Spore, buys the game, brings it home, clones the disc(s), takes the activation codes and returns the game (as most stores allow you to do so within 14 days), does this mean that 'somone' gets completely free Spore? __________________ My Sporepedia

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10-09-2008, 10:58 AM	#1405 (permalink)
SetoHamasaki Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 15	Have a question: The FAQ said that multiple installing on a computer didn't cout as installing on multiple computer so : After installing Spore , I need to format my computer for some reasons and install Spore agains . Does it cout as installing on another computer? Last edited by SetoHamasaki; 10-09-2008 at 11:03 AM..

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JoKiv Rookie Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 6	I still want to buy Spore but not malware with it; so I just need to wait or skip that excellent game. My friend bought that game and I have played couple of hours. Last edited by JoKiv; 10-09-2008 at 01:43 PM..

10-09-2008, 03:42 PM	#1408 (permalink)
Rogue440A Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3	I have not read about the DRM limitation before buying, so thanks for the "no-warning". What I am missing is the following: EA is all about money. I do not mind, but I want to have something in return when I pay (and not buying a cat in a bag as we say in my country - Belgium- it is not what I have in mind). By putting this idiot limitation, not only people do not buy the game, but since everbody wants to know what the hype is about, they crack/hack the game! So EA, keep to your strategy: remove the limitation, make big publicity around it and make more money. Coincidently it goes together with what the user community wants, so do not forget to exploit that argument. Last edited by Rogue440A; 12-09-2008 at 12:23 AM..

10-09-2008, 06:12 PM	#1411 (permalink)
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flatfroggerx Forum Junkie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,939	Edit, ignore this post the forums went crazy and kept redirecting forever :/ __________________ *No longer buying any EA PC game which includes Limited Activations, I do NOT* endorse Limited Activations Opt for Securom Activation FREE versions of EA games through fairer services like steam**

10-09-2008, 07:02 PM	#1415 (permalink)
kingy123 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 38	lalalala IM SICK OF THIS NOT WORKING....!!! I WAITED 3 years for a ofline only piece of lalalala.... realy cant belive it... The main problem is, we're not getting any info at all about anything thats going on, not even to tell us whats happend, let alone how long its gunna take...!! So.. i've had enough.. im takeing it back tomo!!! Thanks for nothing, realy, u dont tell us anything... big let down sort it out EA!!!

10-09-2008, 07:04 PM	#1416 (permalink)
kingy123 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 38	**** This Screw it... im sick of this, im tired of nothing ever working properly, 3 YEARS I WAITED FOR THIS OFLINE ONLY PIECE OF lalalala... The main problem is that NOTHING is being said to us... instead they give us random lalalala.. i mean why the hell would we want a FAQ page, why not just get the game working first... im sick of it, takeing it back tomo.. thanks for nothing EA

10-09-2008, 08:10 PM	#1419 (permalink)
Anodine Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2	DRM, frankly, is a rediculious way to try and protect your software.It disgusts me that as a legitimate owner of a piece of software im limited to the number of times i can legally install this item without the bother of contacting people i shouldnt need to contact. Frankly, using this "anti-piracy" solution is going to potentially drive more people to pirate the game, because that way they dont have to worry/think about registering/reinstalling issues. Of course, i doubt EA will listen to its customer base for one second, why should it, its far to large a company now to care what its customer's think, right? I'll just be particularly specific which games i purchase from now on, and if at all possible, avoid EA software.

10-09-2008, 10:59 PM	#1420 (permalink)
Eroneouse Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Gender: Male Posts: 809	Not only is it a very unpopular system but its also a buggy one too going off the tech help forum, quite a few people with authentification probs and activation probs also a number of people who cant access the sporepedia and cant get the game to log on. If the majority of these are DRM and SecuROM related EA you could go a long way to fixing many probs by takeing it out. __________________ Do you know you have a pencil up your nose sir. Ohh err yes Ive been sleep doodling... I am very bad at it.

11-09-2008, 01:34 AM	#1423 (permalink)
Braidedheadman Forum Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,112	Why post a link to a regurgitated, so-called FAQ that sounds more like a promotional brochure with the number of times it tries to sell, "Look! You can play without the discs!" as though it's something novel we should all be proud of? Seriously, that line is repeated more often than any other point made in that "FAQ", none of whose questions are "Frequently Asked" at all. The whole thing reeks of contrived, corporate propaganda and smoke screens. I, for one, never asked whether or not I could play Spore without the disc in the tray. It's just not a selling feature. The lifetime limitation, however, of just three, and only three, activations most certainly is. Despite its description, it's an anti-consumer feature more than it is anti-piracy and it's a massive dealbreaker for anyone with half a brain. __________________

11-09-2008, 04:33 AM	#1425 (permalink)
Shireknight Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 21	Well if they were the only 2 choices to pick from it's not surprising people went for 3 activations, that's like asking people who hate sprouts if they would like 3 sprouts over their entire lifetime or 1 sprout every 10 days for their entire lifetime. Er I'd like no sprouts full stop please!