Spore Copy Protection Q&A

[Dankidus]

Originally Posted by Eroneouse

So glad this forum supports an ignore feature that we as well as EA can use.

Hahhhh... why do I get the feeling you speak the truth about EA?

[Deside]

Originally Posted by flatfroggerx

Anyway, You seem like the type of person to buy a prebuilt and leave it for 4-5 years until it scrapes the bottom line of "low spec". Thats fine, but for me and many others we're PC gamers, we upgrade our PC's, we experiment with them, we update them, we take care of them to get the best performance out of them.

Ah, yes the usual "35 year old female doesn't know inside her computer" I ALWAYS get. I reckon I probably had my first PC to bits before you were a glint in your father's eye. I've had an e-mail address for.. hmmm... 17 years now. I was designing websites when it was any colour you want as long as it's grey. I remember when we thought a 486 DX was pretty nifty. I remember Sim Life. So leave your prejudices out of it.

Tell you the rig I have right now - Intel Core 2 Duo E8200, NVIDIA Geforce 8500 GT, 2 GB RAM, Vista (finally bit the bullet, I'm seeing XP going the way of W95 very soon). Got a whole load of new kit, just for Spore, because my old Frankenstein of a machine had had many, many bits replaced and it was the old "to get anything better in I'm going to have to replace the motherboard and I couldn't be bothered".

Besides, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just will believe the badmouthers when I see it. Which I doubt I will. Nor do I care particularly, still buying the game, 3 activations or not. And if I use up my 3 activations, I'll get some new ones.

I said my bit because I think those who actually aren't all that fussed about all of this are in the majority, and by their very natures not going to troll a forum over it. Two sides to every story, and I wanted to the other side to be at least on here so people can make up their own minds about it.

[Dankidus]

Whether they're bugged about it now may not be the issue, it's whether they're bugged about it when it bites them in the butt...

Ah well, theres always the cracks that will come out. And they will come out

[Eroneouse]

I just visited a certain chatroom thingy where live streaming of the full version of spore was being played out of aussie land, the guy who has spore full retail release has gone to sleep everyone else seems intent on discussing a certain torrent and how long its gonna take them to DL it. Quite an interesting chat in its own right if you ignore all the *** jokes etc and again highlights exactly how effective the anti piracy thing is.

[Dankidus]

Is it effective? I'm afraid to go in there, someone might point out a spoiler I dont want to hear.

[Eroneouse]

Originally Posted by Dankidus

Is it effective? I'm afraid to go in there, someone might point out a spoiler I dont want to hear.

They are provideing links to a well known torrent site with a file called spore iso @4.37 gig in size with an info bit on how to activate the online parts.

edit - 1 seed and 400 peers by tomorrow that will be 1000 seeds and 10000 peers. IF the file is real. I am not saying it is mind you just saying what I am seeing.

[Dankidus]

Originally Posted by Eroneouse

They are provideing links to a well known torrent site with a file called spore iso @4.37 gig in size with an info bit on how to activate the online parts.

Lol, christ, another xxx number of dollars EA has blown by giving sony money for DRM. But like I said before, they're counting on various sheep to follow the EA flock and eat out of their hands when their activations are used up. Ironic as hell, because this will probably be the first game I will crack, and the last game I will buy from EA. Ah well, when their stocks plummet over the next couple years (like they have been), they'll get another CEO and hopefully that one will do away with this ineffective money wasting garbage.

[flatfroggerx]

Originally Posted by Deside

Ah, yes the usual "35 year old female doesn't know inside her computer" I ALWAYS get. I reckon I probably had my first PC to bits before you were a glint in your father's eye. I've had an e-mail address for.. hmmm... 17 years now. I was designing websites when it was any colour you want as long as it's grey. I remember when we thought a 486 DX was pretty nifty. I remember Sim Life. So leave your prejudices out of it.

Haha, fair play (to be honest I never picked up on the female or age avatar and sig aside, I have to admit I didn't pay much attention to them). The good old days of Acorn and BBC "micro" computers, when games came on PROPER floppies and cassette tapes and when there was sim (practically everything). But seriously no prejudices held here.

I picked up on it purely because you because of the timespans you used, they where similar to that of typical upgrade cycles. Your average PC owner who normally doesn't play games etc does i.e buys a PC keeps it for around 4-5 years and doesn't end up formatted much etc. As well as most of the tone/phrasing you post seemed to be as if you didn't format or do much serious upgrading with your PC like most gamers/techys do.

Originally Posted by Deside

Tell you the rig I have right now - Intel Core 2 Duo E8200, NVIDIA Geforce 8500 GT, 2 GB RAM, Vista (finally bit the bullet, I'm seeing XP going the way of W95 very soon). Got a whole load of new kit, just for Spore, because my old Frankenstein of a machine had had many, many bits replaced and it was the old "to get anything better in I'm going to have to replace the motherboard and I couldn't be bothered".

Topic aside, vista is pretty nice once you have a decent PC (like you have), even microsoft proved it with the mojave experiment (classic anyone isn't aware of it). But yeah, lots of people are finding out they need a new PC to play spore, so many people scrabbling to find out how to get their PC on par by buying a single part : /.

Originally Posted by Deside

Besides, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just will believe the badmouthers when I see it. Which I doubt I will. Nor do I care particularly, still buying the game, 3 activations or not. And if I use up my 3 activations, I'll get some new ones.

I said my bit because I think those who actually aren't all that fussed about all of this are in the majority, and by their very natures not going to troll a forum over it. Two sides to every story, and I wanted to the other side to be at least on here so people can make up their own minds about it.

Fair play again, there are 2 sides to it, you aren't alone I know a few people who simple dont care or aren't bothered by activations, they aren't posting here because they simply don't care enough to. Personally i'm not one for spreading misinformation which i will admit there is abit about, once I find i've been wrong about something in the past i'll correct it to make sure the truth goes out.

But even still I'm against activations, its a cancer which will only kill off and dissuade people from buying PC versions of games, 2K games found 2 was far too low and had to increase to 5, even then it still has more increase done to it. Then again surely this is what EA wants? £40-£50+ 360 or PS3 game vs < £30 PC game (or £40 if using EADM + £2.50 after 6months and every 2 years after). Their business model hardly seems to be PRO-PC Gaming, unlike microsoft, etc.

[flatfroggerx]

Originally Posted by Eroneouse

I just visited a certain chatroom thingy where live streaming of the full version of spore was being played out of aussie land, the guy who has spore full retail release has gone to sleep everyone else seems intent on discussing a certain torrent and how long its gonna take them to DL it. Quite an interesting chat in its own right if you ignore all the *** jokes etc and again highlights exactly how effective the anti piracy thing is.

Most of Aus has it, practically all the retailers broke release date and people wonder why Aus ends up with games last...

Torrents will happen but they are useless until cracked and that won't be long, I wouldn't be surprised if you saw it by the end of the week .

Just goes to show how "effective" EA's activation scheme antipiracy method works (or doesn't).

[Naenia]

i like how people hate protest..as iv said the world we have now came from protest mostly. if someone has a concern they should express it...properly yes but they should still express it. just because someone questions something it doesnt make them a troll, if noone questioned anything at all pretty much nothing would go our way, much more so than now.

people complain about allowing points to be made but they attack someone who makes another point against theirs..pathetic and petty, all the anti securom guys are doing is wanting securom to go away as its lalalala...now both sides can be jerks but they should not be...i do like how people share points but you really shouldnt have a go at someone for merely showing concern

so to all the protest haters here....we actually have a mind and intend to use it...unlike you mindless drones to be honest (a bit harsh but still, we are willing to use our devices), if you dont question something you will never know if its bad until its too late and/or itll just come and slap you round the face as it knows then you wont stand up against it...

[Dankidus]

I'm sure EA knows it's ineffective in most senses. They're just relying on the die hard loyals, or the less computer savvy to come to them with their problems, and they will give them annoyances or suggest they buy another copy, until they buy another copy. I may be wrong, but I tend not to be.

[Thundercloud]

Originally Posted by Naenia

i like how people hate protest..as iv said the world we have now came from protest mostly. if someone has a concern they should express it...properly yes but they should still express it. just because someone questions something it doesnt make them a troll, if noone questioned anything at all pretty much nothing would go our way, much more so than now.

people complain about allowing points to be made but they attack someone who makes another point against theirs..pathetic and petty, all the anti securom guys are doing is wanting securom to go away as its lalalala...

so to all the protest haters here....we actually have a mind and intend to use it...unlike you mindless drones to be honest, if you dont question something you will never know if its bad until its too late and/or itll just come and slap you round the face as it knows then you wont stand up against it...

Good post there. For the record i'm not against protesting at all, despite what my posts may indicate. What I am against is people whining and complaining and making different threads which just end up annoying other people on the board.

SecuROM annoys me, yes. Protesting against it does not. However, coming onto the boards, as I did a few weeks back, and discovering that half the active threads are to do with SecuROM, THAT annoys me.

[Remora Wraith]

Originally Posted by Dankidus

Lol, christ, another xxx number of dollars EA has blown by giving sony money for DRM. But like I said before, they're counting on various sheep to follow the EA flock and eat out of their hands when their activations are used up. Ironic as hell, because this will probably be the first game I will crack, and the last game I will buy from EA. Ah well, when their stocks plummet over the next couple years (like they have been), they'll get another CEO and hopefully that one will do away with this ineffective money wasting garbage.

You say that and thats its funny to watch EA fail but it really isn't. In the end the execs and the lalalas that make these decisions about DRM won't lose out, they get massive salaries and hefty payments when they leave the company. The ones getting screwed are the developers and the people who actually do the work and make the sometimes awesome games that EA sometimes makes. They're the ones who will lose their jobs and not have multi-million dollar redundancy packages.

[Naenia]

aye..iv edited my post a bit >_>

but yeah, i do agree also that topics shouldnt be spread about full of babble...

[Dankidus]

Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

You say that and thats its funny to watch EA fail but it really isn't. In the end the execs and the lalalas that make these decisions about DRM won't lose out, they get massive salaries and hefty payments when they leave the company. The ones getting screwed are the developers and the people who actually do the work and make the sometimes awesome games that EA sometimes makes. They're the ones who will lose their jobs and not have multi-million dollar redundancy packages.

Haha, it's like shooting yourself in the brain, then getting another functioning brain, and then not having to use it anymore.

EDIT: If this is the case, however, Devs should take note as their games may decrease in sales due to EAs practices, if they rely on EAs methods for publishing.

[Braidedheadman]

Originally Posted by Malgor

[Snip]
I really wish people would stop buying in to these kinds of ideas put forth by the companies, and would stop repeating these examples as if they made any sense. Please, people, use a bit of logic, and understand piracy and cracking for what they are. Yes, piracy is a problem, and I do not condone or encourage it - but it is *not* 'killing the games industry', or 'costing a fortune in lost revenue'. Leting companies abuse *your* rights, under the guise of 'protecting' theirs is not something that we should be ok with.[Snip]

QFT! Excellent post (the whole thing)! I couldn't have said it any better myself.

[MetroPolice]

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[Naenia]

yeah but were not deliberately annoying

>_>

please let people voice their concerns..you obviously dont know we need protest..our worlds built upon it...

[MetroPolice]

Originally Posted by Naenia

yeah but were not deliberately annoying

>_>

please let people voice their concerns..you obviously dont know we need protest..our worlds built upon it...

No.. no.. i didnt try to be offensive... I just posted it cause i think its funny. I delete it if you want...

[Naenia]

nah, only if its for fun its ok...but yeah if it was to annoy...then kill it. i just hate when people have a go at discussion, i can see your point when people babble on and needlessly flame but when discussing..its best to let them get on with it, they aint hurting anyone

[Wishbone77]

Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

The ones getting screwed are the developers and the people who actually do the work and make the sometimes awesome games that EA sometimes makes. They're the ones who will lose their jobs and not have multi-million dollar redundancy packages.

Or they're the ones who'll find a decent publisher in the future. One that treats their customers with respect. And then, they just might be incredibly successful

I doubt very much that anyone involved financially in Spore will lose any money. But, with luck, some of the people doing the actual work may see that EA is heading in a direction they themselves do not wish to go.

[Braidedheadman]

I thought that MetroPolice dude was leaving? I saw a thread titled as such started by him, which is now closed. I've ignored the punk and couldn't be bothered to read through it, but I just had to peak at his latest posts above to see YTF he's still here trolling the forums, and this thread in particular.

Damn it, and here I thought this thread might finally see some decent discussion without being trolled at every turn. What the hell! Did I miss something?

[flatfroggerx]

Originally Posted by Braidedheadman

I thought that MetroPolice dude was leaving? I saw a thread titled as such started by him, which is now closed. I've ignored the punk and couldn't be bothered to read through it, but I just had to peak at his latest posts above to see YTF he's still here trolling the forums, and this thread in particular.

Damn it, and here I thought this thread might finally see some decent discussion without being trolled at every turn. What the hell! Did I miss something?

He apparently decided not to, he just trolls this topic and other topics where securom comes up, granted from time to time he does have a proper comment most of the time hes just taking swipes at people. His quitting thread was probably an elaborate ruse to make the people against the activations look bad. I've had him on ignore for a while now.

[Braidedheadman]

*facepalm*

[MetroPolice]

Yeah right... whos trolling who at the moment? Damn... that wos really last time i evin lookt on this thread. Just dosnt worths it. I bet theyre not evin concerned about SecuROM anymore. They just use SecuROM as way to insult others.