Would you like to see religions (Christianity, Buddhism etc.) in TS3? - Page 2

onmyown1986 · 10-04-2008, 07:03 PM

Wicca

Wavylines3 · 10-04-2008, 09:21 PM

What??

onmyown1986 · 10-04-2008, 09:31 PM

I suspect Wicca is what was meant by saying that by introducing witches that was like introducing religion. Wicca is a form of religion, which worships nature, and it is basically a form of pagan witchcraft.

Wavylines3 · 10-04-2008, 09:35 PM

Aaah I was thinking a kind of witch crafty thing.
At least it isn't one in the public eye a lot if you get what I mean.

IzzyTwig · 10-04-2008, 10:43 PM

No, far too controversial, would exclude far too many players and far too complicated given how many thousands of religions there are especially when you consider denominations.

The only way religion could be viable in the sims is if you were given the choice to make your own religion with yourself as being the sim god so you were worshipped or the option for sims start their own sects and cults. Even so, I still wouldn't want it and it would still be far too controversial.

BeakerMcSqueaker · 10-04-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SpokiDokiLoki

If they are putting witches into the game - then they are already introducing a religion.

They are NOT putting witches in the game. EA used a prototype for determining the mechanics of socialisation in which they used calling someone a witch and trying to get the neighbours to side with them and burn them at the stake. What you need to realise is that a prototype is not necessarily what they end up using in the game.

wycked · 11-04-2008, 06:25 AM

@SpokiDokiLoki :
The traditional (fairy/fantasy tale) witch/wizard is not wicca, so there's no religion involved here. They're just people who know magic. Is Harry Potter wicca?

Wavylines3 · 11-04-2008, 10:09 AM

No. Harry Potter is hot

Haha.

onmyown1986 · 11-04-2008, 08:25 PM

Nah, Harry Potter isn't Wicca. He is a real wizard! Wicca is more about using natural things to create 'spells' I believe.

kali02meister · 11-04-2008, 08:43 PM

Wicca as a religion is different to the meaning of witch / warlock etc in the traditional sense. I can't see that having a witch should be taken as the game having religion - nobody looks at the ghosts and sees them as a sign of spiritualism, which is another 'religion'.

And I don't think that the game should have religions. I am an athiest but it wouldn't put me off the game as I think people are entitled to whatever silly beliefs they want to hold. I do however think that it would have the potential for causing offence to others and put the game in the headlines for all the wrong reasons.

We can already build churches (temples or whatever) and cemetaries on community lots if we wish to do so, so there is no need for any religion to be introduced. As for marrying etc on community lots, there's no reason why we couldn't have an 'invite to wedding...' option and specify where and the guests, then go there and click on the arch. It would work similar to group outings so anyone could happily marry their Sims off in the park, mall or wherever they wish

Garrety · 11-04-2008, 08:52 PM

It would b good but it will never happen

Garrety · 11-04-2008, 08:53 PM

More Stuff For Toddlers, More Stuff For Kids More Stuff For Babies More Life Stages

limabifrost · 11-04-2008, 09:35 PM

Religion for toddlers? Is that what you mean? Spamming threads isn't going endear people to your 'cause'..

Supernovur · 11-04-2008, 11:40 PM

I don't mean to offend anyone; but I'm not religious in the slightest. But that said I do respect that others are; however I don't think any religion should be incorportated into the game.

onmyown1986 · 12-04-2008, 04:25 PM

No, I agree. As an Atheist it wouldn't offend me, but whatever religion they introduced it would manage to offend some people, for example if the Sim religion was Christianity based then people of other faiths may get upset. Too political - we don't need controversy in the Sims.

Supernovur · 12-04-2008, 04:49 PM

At the end of the day having religion in the game would not only offend some people, but if they did incorporate some religions where would it end? They couldn't just put a handful of different religions in the game without other people being upset or offended because their religion is not included. Lets face it people there are alot of different religions out there.

I think that if you want to create objects of religious simbolisim for your own game then go right ahead. But incorportating it into the base game that everyone will use; I don't think it's such a good idea.

trykz · 12-04-2008, 07:17 PM

I wouldn't get it if it had religions, makes it too complicated.
Some people might say it is racist... or possible to make racist pictures or comments on them. Also, much rather be WooHoo'ing then praying or worshiping people virtualy.
Finally, there is always small religions and you'd have to put them in it aswell, to not upset anyone.

trykz · 12-04-2008, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supernovur

At the end of the day having religion in the game would not only offend some people, but if they did incorporate some religions where would it end? They couldn't just put a handful of different religions in the game without other people being upset or offended because their religion is not included. Lets face it people there are alot of different religions out there.

I think that if you want to create objects of religious simbolisim for your own game then go right ahead. But incorportating it into the base game that everyone will use; I don't think it's such a good idea.

Oh cool, didn't realise you posted the same thing as me.

Ellie-Mojo · 12-04-2008, 08:58 PM

Im not relgious so no. I can see why some people would want it, but its a game! And dont you think there is enough war going on in the world to do with religion, and to put it in a game, could cause so much more trouble than its worth!

Chaz95 · 12-04-2008, 09:57 PM

Im not particularly religeous but i thought about it and it sounds like a good idea you could now use a church for something other than weddings like baptism and more stuff for old people like church choirs and sundays

Ellie-Mojo · 12-04-2008, 10:02 PM

I like that idea Chaz! lol
And seeing as most religions use a church, I suppose their could be a few 'sim' religions, so it wouldnt offend real religions. And when you have kids - with one parent being religious, and the other isnt, you could have the option whether or not the baby would be religious.

And maybe an extra school, for your kids to go to - like a religious school etc, bit like private school.
And have a few objects etc.
And in the new town, have a church etc!

onmyown1986 · 12-04-2008, 11:03 PM

Most religions don't have churches though - that is the problem. Churches are a very Christian thing - Muslims have Mosques, Jews have Synagogues, Buddhists have Temples etc etc. All religions have a place of worship, but a church as we think of it is a very Christian thing.

Ellie-Mojo · 12-04-2008, 11:07 PM

I was using 'church' as an example. All religions have a 'place of worship'. would be pointless to make a numerous amount of places like mosques etc, so why not have ONE 'place of worship' for the sim religion. I.E a make believe religion.

Shennanigoats · 13-04-2008, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ellie-Mojo

I was using 'church' as an example. All religions have a 'place of worship'. would be pointless to make a numerous amount of places like mosques etc, so why not have ONE 'place of worship' for the sim religion. I.E a make believe religion.

I'm going to have to agree with Flaaafy92 and Tia1234 on this one.

Creating a "sim"-religion is just a bad idea.

Ellie-Mojo · 13-04-2008, 01:52 AM

I agree too, but if they was going to bring religion into the game, it would only work with a made up religion.

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10-04-2008, 09:21 PM	#27 (permalink)
Wavylines3 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 3rd Rock From The Sun Posts: 86	What?? __________________ "Would you sail to the ends of the earth to fetch back witty Jack and his precious Pearl?"

10-04-2008, 09:35 PM	#29 (permalink)
Wavylines3 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 3rd Rock From The Sun Posts: 86	Aaah I was thinking a kind of witch crafty thing. At least it isn't one in the public eye a lot if you get what I mean. __________________ "Would you sail to the ends of the earth to fetch back witty Jack and his precious Pearl?"

11-04-2008, 06:25 AM	#32 (permalink)
wycked Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 62	@SpokiDokiLoki : The traditional (fairy/fantasy tale) witch/wizard is not wicca, so there's no religion involved here. They're just people who know magic. Is Harry Potter wicca? __________________ Currently playing Everquest 2 and Lord of the Rings Online

11-04-2008, 10:09 AM	#33 (permalink)
Wavylines3 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 3rd Rock From The Sun Posts: 86	No. Harry Potter is hot Haha. __________________ "Would you sail to the ends of the earth to fetch back witty Jack and his precious Pearl?"

10-04-2008, 07:03 PM	#26 (permalink)
onmyown1986 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Suffolk Age: 22 Posts: 472	Wicca

10-04-2008, 09:31 PM	#28 (permalink)
onmyown1986 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Suffolk Age: 22 Posts: 472	I suspect Wicca is what was meant by saying that by introducing witches that was like introducing religion. Wicca is a form of religion, which worships nature, and it is basically a form of pagan witchcraft.

10-04-2008, 10:43 PM	#30 (permalink)
IzzyTwig Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northwest UK Age: 20 Posts: 577	No, far too controversial, would exclude far too many players and far too complicated given how many thousands of religions there are especially when you consider denominations. The only way religion could be viable in the sims is if you were given the choice to make your own religion with yourself as being the sim god so you were worshipped or the option for sims start their own sects and cults. Even so, I still wouldn't want it and it would still be far too controversial.

11-04-2008, 08:25 PM	#34 (permalink)
onmyown1986 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Suffolk Age: 22 Posts: 472	Nah, Harry Potter isn't Wicca. He is a real wizard! Wicca is more about using natural things to create 'spells' I believe.

11-04-2008, 08:43 PM	#35 (permalink)
kali02meister Rookie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 122	Wicca as a religion is different to the meaning of witch / warlock etc in the traditional sense. I can't see that having a witch should be taken as the game having religion - nobody looks at the ghosts and sees them as a sign of spiritualism, which is another 'religion'. And I don't think that the game should have religions. I am an athiest but it wouldn't put me off the game as I think people are entitled to whatever silly beliefs they want to hold. I do however think that it would have the potential for causing offence to others and put the game in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. We can already build churches (temples or whatever) and cemetaries on community lots if we wish to do so, so there is no need for any religion to be introduced. As for marrying etc on community lots, there's no reason why we couldn't have an 'invite to wedding...' option and specify where and the guests, then go there and click on the arch. It would work similar to group outings so anyone could happily marry their Sims off in the park, mall or wherever they wish

11-04-2008, 08:52 PM	#36 (permalink)
Garrety Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 70	It would b good but it will never happen

11-04-2008, 08:53 PM	#37 (permalink)
Garrety Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 70	More Stuff For Toddlers, More Stuff For Kids More Stuff For Babies More Life Stages

11-04-2008, 09:35 PM	#38 (permalink)
limabifrost The Sims Moderator Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Not The Bubble :( Posts: 2,189	Religion for toddlers? Is that what you mean? Spamming threads isn't going endear people to your 'cause'.. __________________ Limabifrost The Sims Moderator Feel free to call me Emma

11-04-2008, 11:40 PM	#39 (permalink)
Supernovur Forum Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: On Another Planet Posts: 509	I don't mean to offend anyone; but I'm not religious in the slightest. But that said I do respect that others are; however I don't think any religion should be incorportated into the game.

12-04-2008, 04:25 PM	#40 (permalink)
onmyown1986 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Suffolk Age: 22 Posts: 472	No, I agree. As an Atheist it wouldn't offend me, but whatever religion they introduced it would manage to offend some people, for example if the Sim religion was Christianity based then people of other faiths may get upset. Too political - we don't need controversy in the Sims.

12-04-2008, 04:49 PM	#41 (permalink)
Supernovur Forum Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: On Another Planet Posts: 509	At the end of the day having religion in the game would not only offend some people, but if they did incorporate some religions where would it end? They couldn't just put a handful of different religions in the game without other people being upset or offended because their religion is not included. Lets face it people there are alot of different religions out there. I think that if you want to create objects of religious simbolisim for your own game then go right ahead. But incorportating it into the base game that everyone will use; I don't think it's such a good idea. __________________ If you don't want to get your fingers burnt DON'T PLAY WITH FIRE!

12-04-2008, 07:17 PM	#42 (permalink)
trykz Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2	I wouldn't get it if it had religions, makes it too complicated. Some people might say it is racist... or possible to make racist pictures or comments on them. Also, much rather be WooHoo'ing then praying or worshiping people virtualy. Finally, there is always small religions and you'd have to put them in it aswell, to not upset anyone. Last edited by trykz; 12-04-2008 at 07:17 PM. Reason: Missed something out :D

12-04-2008, 08:58 PM	#44 (permalink)
Ellie-Mojo Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southampton Age: 19 Posts: 158	Im not relgious so no. I can see why some people would want it, but its a game! And dont you think there is enough war going on in the world to do with religion, and to put it in a game, could cause so much more trouble than its worth!

12-04-2008, 09:57 PM	#45 (permalink)
Chaz95 Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: A Mental Asylum Age: 13 Posts: 881	Im not particularly religeous but i thought about it and it sounds like a good idea you could now use a church for something other than weddings like baptism and more stuff for old people like church choirs and sundays

12-04-2008, 10:02 PM	#46 (permalink)
Ellie-Mojo Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southampton Age: 19 Posts: 158	I like that idea Chaz! lol And seeing as most religions use a church, I suppose their could be a few 'sim' religions, so it wouldnt offend real religions. And when you have kids - with one parent being religious, and the other isnt, you could have the option whether or not the baby would be religious. And maybe an extra school, for your kids to go to - like a religious school etc, bit like private school. And have a few objects etc. And in the new town, have a church etc!

12-04-2008, 11:03 PM	#47 (permalink)
onmyown1986 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Suffolk Age: 22 Posts: 472	Most religions don't have churches though - that is the problem. Churches are a very Christian thing - Muslims have Mosques, Jews have Synagogues, Buddhists have Temples etc etc. All religions have a place of worship, but a church as we think of it is a very Christian thing.

12-04-2008, 11:07 PM	#48 (permalink)
Ellie-Mojo Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southampton Age: 19 Posts: 158	I was using 'church' as an example. All religions have a 'place of worship'. would be pointless to make a numerous amount of places like mosques etc, so why not have ONE 'place of worship' for the sim religion. I.E a make believe religion.

13-04-2008, 01:52 AM	#50 (permalink)
Ellie-Mojo Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southampton Age: 19 Posts: 158	I agree too, but if they was going to bring religion into the game, it would only work with a made up religion.