Rock Band UK Bundles/Pricing Discussion

[raven2751]

Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

Erm what? Firstly what's your source of this 4000 lost sales? You stated this figure with no link to a sales tracker or anything. Secondly the revenue from 4000 sales wouldn't reach anywhere near £1.3m, at best if every single lost sale were a full set of rock band and the band in the box bought at the full RRP the total would only be £720,000.

it inludes the current approx value of download content and heres the link Lower Rock Band's European Price! - Signatures

[Remora Wraith]

£580,000 is a bit of a generous estimate on downloadable content, not everybody is gonna download extra songs and I doubt oe average they will spend £145 on songs. Not to mention that you've rounded the figure up by quite a bit well only a small percentage but that still knocks the retail value of sales down to £702,000. And you're assuming that everyone who signed that petition then didn't go and buy it anyway. I'd say that £1m would be a better estimate and even that is quite high.

[Scooper]

Completely agree. I bet at least a quarter of the people on that list now have rock band.
Looks like for the moment rock band has won but this whole incident has left a very nasty stain over EA for the forseeable future

[Remora Wraith]

No it still hasn't done brilliantly.
VGChartz.com | Rock Band (X360)

Out of 1.56m global sales on 360 1.49m have been in the US and 0.07m have been sold in europe. 70,000 copies in three weeks, though 12.6m (best case retail sales scenario) does eclipse the supposed £1.3m in lost sales.

[raven2751]

it kind looks like it's doing really bad as it keeps going down the charts, which is bad news for the rest of the EU and AUS

[Scooper]

Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

No it still hasn't done brilliantly.
VGChartz.com | Rock Band (X360)

Out of 1.56m global sales on 360 1.49m have been in the US and 0.07m have been sold in europe. 70,000 copies in three weeks, though 12.6m (best case retail sales scenario) does eclipse the supposed £1.3m in lost sales.

Wow that was actually unexpected. I had no idea it was doing so badly. Games are meant to sell the most in like the first month, and well its been nearly a month and it has failed.
There must be some seriously ****ed off shareholders right now wondering what the **** EA are doing to their share prices

Also looking at that sales chart. in week 5 the sales seemed to boost alot but then i realised that was when it came out in Canada
and the funniest thing about the chart is that the first week of sales for us is lower than all but one for the first 10 weeks of the US sales

[PNReynard]

Originally Posted by raven2751

it kind looks like it's doing really bad as it keeps going down the charts, which is bad news for the rest of the EU and AUS

It could also affect the release of Rock Band 2 here. Just think of all the money EA, MTV & Harmonix are losing because of this.

I'm also angry and at Microsoft giving these ***** our money (from Live Subscriptions) for 'Timed Exclusivity' and promoting it on live knowing that majority of people will not buy this game!

[Scooper]

True, The exclusivity for the 360 release must of cost microsoft an apsolute FORTUNE! And probably more than we think as im sure Sony would of been trying to get it to.
But then maybe that money will just about cover the costs of having to replace everyones equipment when it eventually breaks (that's not an if it breaks, it will break at some point)

[Spidery Yoda]

And at the same time it might not've had anything to do with Microsoft at all. Never assume things.

Although it is a little odd. I just assumed the PS3 version was going to take longer because of something else. That never occured to me.

[Remora Wraith]

Normally the PS3 fanboys are up in arms and hastily announce how much MS paid like they did with GTA4 so I wonder if there was a payment for 360 exclusivity or if there are other reasons, I can't think what though.

[Scooper]

Well lets be honest it must of been paid for as the PS3 is not region locked, therefore a copy of the game sold in the US could run on a ps3 over here. all that would of need to have been done was changing the maual for different languages, they could of had it out months ago.
With the Xbox360 there is really no reason as to why it took so long to come out however the whole game would of have to have been translated from a NSTC format to a PAL format for Europe so money has deffinitely changed hands.
And with microsoft paying for GTA4, i don't believe that one because for starters it came out at the same time on all consoles, and secondly the Xbox360 is now a huge market and if they wanted to make a decent profit from the game they had to bring it out on the 360 aswell.

[Remora Wraith]

Actually with HD NTSC and PAL are pretty much defunct with 720p/i and 1080p/i it's only if you're using the scart lead and not HDMI or component that it becomes an issue and transcoding between is done by the console itself nowadays. The PAL/NTSC thing is just to keep with standards, so region locked games have an over-riding PAL pr NTSC setting whereas region free games use the consoles setting.

It could have something to do with licensing I really have no clue but as I said normally the PS3 crowd are all over the fact that MS paid for exclusivity as if SOny has never paid to get anything Playstation exclusive *cough*GTA*cough*.

[Scooper]

If Microsoft was going to pay for GTA on the 360 they would of got exclusivity not just pay for it to come out at the same time.

[Remora Wraith]

No I meant Sony paid for GTAII/VC/SA to be launched on PS2 six months before Xbox and PC, this time round MS paid $500,000 to get exclusive DLC for GTA4.

[Spidery Yoda]

Originally Posted by Scooper

If Microsoft was going to pay for GTA on the 360 they would of got exclusivity not just pay for it to come out at the same time.

I think in actuality the PS3 version caused both of them to be delayed significantly.

But yeah as Remora Wraith said, M$ just payed for DLC exclusivity.

[Scooper]

Ahh right. Well to be honest fool on microsoft becuz i havent bought any of GTAs DLC and i can say for a fact none of my friends have, none of them even play on it anymore

[MahrVehl]

Originally Posted by Scooper

Ahh right. Well to be honest fool on microsoft becuz i havent bought any of GTAs DLC and i can say for a fact none of my friends have, none of them even play on it anymore

It's not out yet! Early next year i think is the latest release date for any GTA4 DLC.

And you can bet they'll hype the hell out of it before it hits so people who maybe haven't picked up GTA4 in a while will know about it.

[Scooper]

lalalala, shows how much im looking forward to the DLC release. I can't even complete the game yet. Mostly because i'm at the last desicion and which ever route i take i always fail the very last mission and instead of retrying i just want to roam around which u cant do at that point

[shefellover93]

I can't believe the pricing over here. My bro has an xbox 360 and I was ha;f thinking of getting it for the drums and to bring it to parties ect.

But at this price I feel like giving the two fingers to whatever twisted ****er thought up of this price (Although they gave me the finger first with that price)

It's unacceptable that we have to pay that much and that EA can get away with it.

The FIFA series (As with many games) is a ****ing joke. I bought PES6 on the pc for €15 and I can get free patches and mods that can do more than FIFA can ever do. I have 200+ stadiums lalala, how many does FIFA have? 30.

Cost of FIFA - €60
Cost of PES - €15

I've always had to put up with this EA bull****, (I even do diaries on the forums on Cricket 07) but asking people that really wanted the game to fork out twice as much as their counterparts is just ****ing ridiculous.

**** you EA for showing Europe the two fingers

[Scooper]

Yep pretty much sums it up becuz no other game company in the world charges as much as EA does, i really don't know who they think they are.

[EAUK_Phenom]

Originally Posted by shefellover93

The FIFA series (As with many games) is a ****ing joke. I bought PES6 on the pc for €15 and I can get free patches and mods that can do more than FIFA can ever do. I have 200+ stadiums lalala, how many does FIFA have? 30.

Cost of FIFA - €60
Cost of PES - €15

FIFA is not €60. FIFA 08 is around €20 and FIFA 07 (released the same year as PES6) is even cheaper. There are FIFA 'mods' out there, too, but all of the above is somewhat irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Phenom

[shefellover93]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

FIFA is not €60. FIFA 08 is around €20 and FIFA 07 (released the same year as PES6) is even cheaper. There are FIFA 'mods' out there, too, but all of the above is somewhat irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Phenom

A) Yes it is €60, in Ireland it is anyway
B) It's cheaper, but it's still much more expensive than PES6
C) You can't get stadiums, kits, balls, ect. You can only get a limited amount of stuff (Menu screens)
D) The argument is very relevant because it shows how EA is ripping us off all across the company

[Freeburnerr]

dude, you do realise that you're saying this to an admin, don't you? anyway, if you want i'll send you the link to the 'ea sucks' thread... no wait, that got blocked... and the 'ea sucks' group dissolved like wood with termites so that's out the window... you could join the Activision forums, couldn't you?

[Scooper]

I've just joined the activision forums. But to be honest this thread isnt about EAs pricing on Rock band, its how they are ripping off the entire gaming community with every game they bring out. Whats their excuse for having a RRP of a tenner more than any other company then?????? (Directed at any admin)

[MahrVehl]

Eurogamer have posted a preview of Guitar Hero World Tour.

It's a fun read but an interesting point comes up on the final page when Rock Band is mentioned:

One Activision staffer, with a nod and a wink, suggested off-the-record that World Tour will be cheaper than Rock Band, especially, they noted, after the PR disaster that EA suffered in Europe. But whispering and doing are two very different things, and with so many factors to consider, we'll retain a healthy dose of scepticism until there's official word. Although it should go without saying that it would be forehead-slapping business stupidity of Gizmondo proportions if it came out more expensive.

Of course this is FAR from an official statement saying "Wow! EA's price was crazy! Ours is gonna be £140!" but it does show that Activision have been paying paying attention to the mildly bad reaction to the Rock Band EU price.