Rock Band UK Bundles/Pricing Discussion - Page 17

Scooper · 12-06-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SDB101

i know this is random, i apologise in advance, but peeing into the wind is ok if someone you hate is standing next to you

Laughing my *** off. Very true. I'd do it if the guy who said it was stood next to me. He sounds like a 12 yr old kid tryin to make out he knows the laws of the land

Remora Wraith · 12-06-2008, 04:05 PM

Well if you know so much then go sue EA, while you're at it go sue petrol companies, they're charging us more than the US for petrol that's illegal too right?

Scooper · 12-06-2008, 05:24 PM

Urmmm no because they come from different sources??? And petrol isnt expensive. its the tax thts added to it thats expensive moron

Remora Wraith · 12-06-2008, 08:17 PM

Actually while the tax is around 112% that still means it's around 90p per litre of non-tax for fuel, in America the going price is around 95 cents per US gallon, there are just over 3 and a half litres to an American gallon so at the current exchange rate that's 48p per gallon and so around 13p per litre almost 7 times as much. And I'm pretty sure that Shell and Texaco exist in America. Try doing some research before making statements like that and calling people morons, you won't make any friends and you look like an arrogant idiot.

MahrVehl · 12-06-2008, 11:14 PM

Remora Wraith is correct that the current high price of fuel is far more influenced by higher oil costs rather than any particular tax by the UK government.

But the right analogy would be to say that if by some freak coincidence ESSO were suddenly the only supplier of petrol in the UK (as EA are the sole distributor of a full band music simulator) and they used this situation to inflate the price of petrol even higher while prices in the rest of the world stayed the same.

The main point is that EA have a monopoly on this type of game in the UK, and they are adding money on to the price that the rest of the market doesn't seem to need to just Rock Band. Why JUST this game? There are similar products in terms of size that aren't increased in price like Rock Band, so the price is unfair and more than a good reason to complain to EA until we get a good reason and/or a price cut.

I have heard through a source that EA are reluctant to name the real reason for the price hike because the reason is the amount of returns they ahd to deal with in the US release. At this point I'm not going to buy Rock band even though I could, so EA in my eyes could save some face by at least growing a pair and admitting why they are overcharging EU customers.

But that'll never happen will it? EAUK_Omni, would it? If that was the reason would EA admit it?

Surely EA should be concerned that on the official game boards for a flagship title like this, the only discussion is about how the customers are being screwed.

Remora Wraith · 12-06-2008, 11:54 PM

Not really because people are still buying it.

Scooper · 13-06-2008, 09:08 AM

Exactly the price is only high because its monopolised. And blalalaax is a hell of alot more than 12% because u hav to hav at least VAT and then extra tax becuz the government are worse than EA, plus why would i want to be friends with you???

But MahrVehl is right about the monopoly, however it can't be classed as that because there are other "Rhythm" based games out there it's just that this one is unique,
And i think you're right on the price being inflated because of the returns in the US, hence EAs profit loss last year, and i guess they're still refusing to admit the truth, cowards. Only thing it doesn't explain is why they would choose to send out shoddy equipment in the UK (meaning drums that people are saying are refurbished because of marks etc) because surely that would mean they'd get even more returns????
I really dont get the angle EA is coming from at the moment

O and for your information, you'll find that most petrol stations in america are run by small independant chains which have lower running costs than over here.

Remora Wraith · 13-06-2008, 10:58 AM

So Texaco and Shell don't exist in America? Really, also learn to read I didn't say 12% I said 112% moron. Christ if you can't comprehend what's in front of you then why do you think anyone would take anything you say seriously.

And it isn't a monopoly as you said yourself it's a rhythm game, what do you want to create a whole new class of product "rhythm games with multiple peripherals" because that is all it is.

And I think you'll find the real cause of the price difference is the current poor state of the dollar, typically there is about $1.50 to £1, currently you're looking at $2 to £1. Now for some simple maths, if you consider the current rock abdn price in america ranges between $150 and $170, we'll take the $170 price because that's probably the current high street retail price and that has come down from the original $200 RRP beings as it has been out for 6 months.

If you convert $170 to pounds at the typical exchange rate you get £113, now just for one second lets consider the typical US-UK mark-up, the average game in the US retails at $50-60 and in the UK for £40-50, so there is at a typical exchange rate about a 20% mark-up. So now lets adjust that £113 by 20% and you get £135 + vat and we get about £160.

Not that I'm saying we're not paying over the odds, we are, but not by anywhere near what you're saying we are, and when you consider the original US RRP of $200 than conversion works out at £188. The problem is that the US economy is in shambles and you people are considering the price of the game six months after it's release. Had they been released worldwide at the same time the price difference would've seemed smaller due to the RRPs being at their highest and the exchange rate being more stable.

MahrVehl · 13-06-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

The problem is that the US economy is in shambles and you people are considering the price of the game six months after it's release. Had they been released worldwide at the same time the price difference would've seemed smaller due to the RRPs being at their highest and the exchange rate being more stable.

As far as the Dollar/Pound ratio goes when RB launched in the states the rate was just above 2 dollars to the pound, and now it's just below 2 dollars to the pound. Not a huge difference at all and certainly not one thats made any other distributor have to hike up their prices.

Thats a major gripe of mine with any excuses given by EA or HMX is that all their excuses would affect EVERYONE in the games industry, but it hasn't it's just EA, and even then EA's other release don't have a markup like this, just Rock Band.

All your high economic reasons are valid but if they affected rock band to the amount that they have, why haven't they affected every other game or piece of hardware as well?

MahrVehl · 13-06-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

If you convert $170 to pounds at the typical exchange rate you get £113,

Also, this site gives a distinctly different amount to your currency conversion

$169.99 = £87.40

Wanna run your numbers again with £87.40 as the starting point?

Remora Wraith · 13-06-2008, 01:37 PM

As I said considering the typical exchange rate of £1 to $1.50 it costs £113 without VAT and the mark-up, try reading what I said.

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Originally Posted by MahrVehl

All your high economic reasons are valid but if they affected rock band to the amount that they have, why haven't they affected every other game or piece of hardware as well?

That's the point they HAVEN'T affected anything, we pay £40 for a game, currently that's the better part of $80. The price of games hasn't gone down when by your logic they should have, because you think a new game in the US at $50 would be about £25 here with the current rate of exchange but it costs £40, games prices haven't gone down so why would Rock Band be any different? My point isn't that RB would be cheaper if the dollar was stronger it's that it would've been the same price, it just seems a LOT more expensive than the US version because of the weakness of the dollar.

MahrVehl · 13-06-2008, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

As I said considering the typical exchange rate of £1 to $1.50 it costs £113 without VAT and the mark-up, try reading what I said.

But thats NOT THE EXCHANGE RATE! And hasn't been since at least before Rock Band came out.

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Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

That's the point they HAVEN'T affected anything, we pay £40 for a game, currently that's the better part of $80. The price of games hasn't gone down when by your logic they should have, because you think a new game in the US at $50 would be about £25 here with the current rate of exchange but it costs £40, games prices haven't gone down so why would Rock Band be any different? My point isn't that RB would be cheaper if the dollar was stronger it's that it would've been the same price, it just seems a LOT more expensive than the US version because of the weakness of the dollar.

My point is that the strength of the dollar against the pound hasn't changed that much since RB was released in the US, in fact the dollar has improved against the pound very slightly since RB's december 07 release.

And if these economic factors haven't affected any other game (as you say yourself) why is the markup so much higher for rockband? I talk of course of the markup using the current exchange rate not the $1.50 to £1 rate from what 6 bloody years ago that you seem to be using.

[edit] the last time the Dollar was at £1.50 to £1 was in 2002. Not particularly relevant to a game that came out in 2007 is it?[/edit]

Remora Wraith · 13-06-2008, 03:12 PM

But games prices haven't come down since 2002, not due to the change in exchange rate, they've been £40 since back then, the only thing that has had an effect on games prices is online sales, cutting costs that way has reduced prices. By your logic the Rock Band price should be lower because of the exchange rate, yet also by this logic ALL games should've become cheaper due to the decline of the dollar, but it hasn't happened games are still £40 and they're still $60 in the US.

But I can't be bothered to argue anymore, as high as the price is winging about it on a forum won't change anything, boycotting it won't make any difference either, and if you think otherwise you're an idiot. So go on, keep on moaning if you think it'll help, its been what a month and a half since they announced the price and they haven't said or changed anything so take the hint.

MahrVehl · 13-06-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

But games prices haven't come down since 2002, not due to the change in exchange rate, they've been £40 since back then, the only thing that has had an effect on games prices is online sales, cutting costs that way has reduced prices. By your logic the Rock Band price should be lower because of the exchange rate, yet also by this logic ALL games should've become cheaper due to the decline of the dollar, but it hasn't happened games are still £40 and they're still $60 in the US.

By your logic all game prices should be higher to the smae degree that RB is but they aren't so what you point?

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Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

But I can't be bothered to argue anymore, as high as the price is winging about it on a forum won't change anything, boycotting it won't make any difference either, and if you think otherwise you're an idiot. So go on, keep on moaning if you think it'll help, its been what a month and a half since they announced the price and they haven't said or changed anything so take the hint.

So whining won't make a difference, but neither will using a 6 year old exchange to try and convince your self that EA aren't screwing over every customer in the EU.

Someone asked this earlier but why are you defending EA's corner on this so much? Are you looking for a job? The only way you can make EA's pricing structure make sense is if you use a horrendously outdated exchange rate. If you use the current exchange rate then your argument holds no weight whatsoever. Why didn't you address the fact that the exchange rate you used in you sums was vastly out of date? Are you worried that you sums make no damn sense? It's cool though, I'll do it for you:

$169.99 in £ at todays exchange rate = £87.40

Plus you suggested 20% markup = £104.88

plus VAT at 17.5% = £123.23

So your maths helps to prove that EA have screwed us over by approximately £57 pounds. Thanks

By the way, I never insulted you, but you felt the need to call me an idiot because I think that consumers in the Eu have the right to not be ripped of by companies. Why are you so worried by people using logic and sense to prove that EA are screwing us all over, do you want a job at EA THAT much?

Remora Wraith · 13-06-2008, 04:06 PM

No I called you an idiot for thinking that posting about it on the internet will change anything. And no I don't want a job at EA I just worked hard at school so I could afford nice things, and worked a way around it anyway. I'm not defending EA I've just come to accept that stuff in the UK costs more, it always has and always will, moaning on the internet isn't going to do anything about it.
What about the PS3? $600 and £425 ($800) it's not just rock band it's everything and people still buy it, so you have two choices, moan and winge about it or move somewhere else.

My exchange rate was just an example it wasn't meant to be the exact exchange rate just a rough example of how it has changed, but if you want to be so picky you're using the US current retail price, and comparing it the the UK launch RRP, the US launch RRP was $200, so really the price is £146.33 so actually they're screwing us out of 33.67.

Oh yes and the prices don't include US sales tax which varies from state to state and can be between 4 and 12 percent I believe.

MahrVehl · 13-06-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Remora Wraith

No I called you an idiot for thinking that posting about it on the internet will change anything. And no I don't want a job at EA I just worked hard at school so I could afford nice things, and worked a way around it anyway. I'm not defending EA I've just come to accept that stuff in the UK costs more, it always has and always will, moaning on the internet isn't going to do anything about it.
What about the PS3? $600 and £425 ($800) it's not just rock band it's everything and people still buy it, so you have two choices, moan and winge about it or move somewhere else.

My exchange rate was just an example it wasn't meant to be the exact exchange rate just a rough example of how it has changed, but if you want to be so picky you're using the US current retail price, and comparing it the the UK launch RRP, the US launch RRP was $200, so really the price is £146.33 so actually they're screwing us out of 33.67.

Oh yes and the prices don't include US sales tax which varies from state to state and can be between 4 and 12 percent I believe.

Actually the US rock band launch price was $169.99. And we are comparing US price NOW to UK price NOW so even if Rock band HAD launched at $200 (which it didn't) I would be perfectly justified in using $169.99 as a comparison price.

And a good example with the PS3 there, you know what happened there don't you? People complained about the price, it didn't sell very well and then sony dropped the price to a more reasonable markup. The PS3 markup in the UK is currently 46% blalalahe rock band one is closer to 100%. Still seem fair?

Your exchange rate was a guess? Then it was a really bad guess, out by over a 3rd from what you thought it was? Thats fairly shoddy maths right there even for a guess.

And the rest of us have come to expect thing to cost more in the UK as well. In this case we've come to expect that games cost between 30% to 50% more when comparing RRP's between US and UK, rock band goes against all these expectations.

So next time how about you work hard at getting your facts straight before you call people idiots?

Scooper · 13-06-2008, 04:40 PM

Wooooh big argument going on here. Blalalahe way things get changed is by voicing your opinion on the internet.
But MahrVehl is completely right, the factors would of affected all games not just this one and the usual markup of about 50% we expect has gone to about 120% (Estimate). So stop thinking your so high and mighty Remora and go back to playing rock band you traitor. And you said working at school bought you nice things??? A school that pays to go? Sort yourself out man and stop grouching off your parents

Remora Wraith · 13-06-2008, 05:14 PM

Stop grouching off my parents? HAHAHA you're the one who's parents bought them the game and you're calling me a traitor? Firstly I never said I wasn't going to buy it I said I was importing my drums for a fraction of the cost and just buying the game, and secondly I have a nice job which earns me enough to buy rock band, and yes school did pay for my stuff because I got good grades to get a nice job.

And no moaning on the internet doesn't change things, it hasn't even got you a statement, and they won't drop the price in Europe until after the PS3 version launches.

Bottom line is I thought was it worth spending £90 on and I thought that it was, I'll have fun playing it and you guys can circle jerk each other over how right you are and how wrong EA are all you want. But it still doesn't change the price no matter how much you want it to or think it will.

Yes the PS3 price was dropped, and what happened? Sales went up, it's a marketing strategy, people think the price has gone down so now is the time to buy it, and so they do. And actually the price in the UK wasn't dropped they just added a pad and a crappy game, and even then that was more than 8 months after the US launch. But the PS3 hardly failed, what with it being the fastest selling console in history after launch.

The exchange rate wouldn't have affected all games, because the value of the dollar dropped and games prices didn't, but we long ago established that the exchange rate doesn't actually have much to do with it.

Remora Wraith · 13-06-2008, 06:07 PM

Sorry, just realised I've been getting my maths wrong, I worked out the percentage difference not the percentage mark-up on games from the US to UK. As scooper said it's actually 50% (well 51% on the three games I checked).

Scooper · 14-06-2008, 12:27 AM

Right i think the conversation should probably go back to the bundles and pricing as the title says. One thing i can say that people were asking bout is that inside the instruments box thr are smaller manuals for the guitar and drums in multi language. so why this couldnt of been done with the main game manual???
Would of meant the game could of been supplied with the instruments. Like they've managed to add flippin power convertors for the USB hub, so why not that

raven2751 · 14-06-2008, 01:01 PM

EAUK_OMNI have a look at this almost 4000 lost sales totaling about £1.3m

i know this won't make much of a difference but think if those people refuse to buy any more EA products your sales revenue will decrease very rapidly

Scooper · 15-06-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by raven2751

EAUK_OMNI have a look at this almost 4000 lost sales totaling about £1.3m

i know this won't make much of a difference but think if those people refuse to buy any more EA products your sales revenue will decrease very rapidly

True but i dont think they care. They still have the entire US sales, thing is though when their profit goes down again this year like it did last year, well are they gonna try and boost prices up even more? Or just churn out more ****ty uninspiring games

Remora Wraith · 15-06-2008, 09:53 AM

Erm what? Firstly what's your source of this 4000 lost sales? You stated this figure with no link to a sales tracker or anything. Secondly the revenue from 4000 sales wouldn't reach anywhere near £1.3m, at best if every single lost sale were a full set of rock band and the band in the box bought at the full RRP the total would only be £720,000.

PNReynard · 15-06-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by raven2751

EAUK_OMNI have a look at this almost 4000 lost sales totaling about £1.3m

i know this won't make much of a difference but think if those people refuse to buy any more EA products your sales revenue will decrease very rapidly

The figure will get ALOT bigger than 4000 due to the fact that Rock Band has flopped in Europe (if you can call 3 countries that) due to the insane pricing structure set up by EA.

This in turn will lead to Harmonix not releasing Rock Band in the remaining countries with a populous of 4m+ unable to buy it.

Scooper · 15-06-2008, 08:54 PM

Good point. I havent heard any news recently on rock band coming out anywhere else??? And if it flops that badly then no chance of a sequel.

Feel sorry for harmonix right now as this is the only game they've got and if this fails because of EAs shoddy EU release, well what can i say

12-06-2008, 04:05 PM	#402 (permalink)
Remora Wraith Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Age: 23 Posts: 4,714	Well if you know so much then go sue EA, while you're at it go sue petrol companies, they're charging us more than the US for petrol that's illegal too right? __________________ We are sorry in the most sarcastic sense of the word.

12-06-2008, 05:24 PM	#403 (permalink)
Scooper Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 132	Urmmm no because they come from different sources??? And petrol isnt expensive. its the tax thts added to it thats expensive moron __________________

12-06-2008, 08:17 PM	#404 (permalink)
Remora Wraith Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Age: 23 Posts: 4,714	Actually while the tax is around 112% that still means it's around 90p per litre of non-tax for fuel, in America the going price is around 95 cents per US gallon, there are just over 3 and a half litres to an American gallon so at the current exchange rate that's 48p per gallon and so around 13p per litre almost 7 times as much. And I'm pretty sure that Shell and Texaco exist in America. Try doing some research before making statements like that and calling people morons, you won't make any friends and you look like an arrogant idiot. __________________ We are sorry in the most sarcastic sense of the word.

12-06-2008, 11:54 PM	#406 (permalink)
Remora Wraith Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Age: 23 Posts: 4,714	Not really because people are still buying it. __________________ We are sorry in the most sarcastic sense of the word.

13-06-2008, 09:08 AM	#407 (permalink)
Scooper Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 132	Exactly the price is only high because its monopolised. And blalalaax is a hell of alot more than 12% because u hav to hav at least VAT and then extra tax becuz the government are worse than EA, plus why would i want to be friends with you??? But MahrVehl is right about the monopoly, however it can't be classed as that because there are other "Rhythm" based games out there it's just that this one is unique, And i think you're right on the price being inflated because of the returns in the US, hence EAs profit loss last year, and i guess they're still refusing to admit the truth, cowards. Only thing it doesn't explain is why they would choose to send out shoddy equipment in the UK (meaning drums that people are saying are refurbished because of marks etc) because surely that would mean they'd get even more returns???? I really dont get the angle EA is coming from at the moment O and for your information, you'll find that most petrol stations in america are run by small independant chains which have lower running costs than over here. __________________ Last edited by Scooper; 13-06-2008 at 09:32 AM..

12-06-2008, 11:14 PM	#405 (permalink)
MahrVehl Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 30	Remora Wraith is correct that the current high price of fuel is far more influenced by higher oil costs rather than any particular tax by the UK government. But the right analogy would be to say that if by some freak coincidence ESSO were suddenly the only supplier of petrol in the UK (as EA are the sole distributor of a full band music simulator) and they used this situation to inflate the price of petrol even higher while prices in the rest of the world stayed the same. The main point is that EA have a monopoly on this type of game in the UK, and they are adding money on to the price that the rest of the market doesn't seem to need to just Rock Band. Why JUST this game? There are similar products in terms of size that aren't increased in price like Rock Band, so the price is unfair and more than a good reason to complain to EA until we get a good reason and/or a price cut. I have heard through a source that EA are reluctant to name the real reason for the price hike because the reason is the amount of returns they ahd to deal with in the US release. At this point I'm not going to buy Rock band even though I could, so EA in my eyes could save some face by at least growing a pair and admitting why they are overcharging EU customers. But that'll never happen will it? EAUK_Omni, would it? If that was the reason would EA admit it? Surely EA should be concerned that on the official game boards for a flagship title like this, the only discussion is about how the customers are being screwed.

13-06-2008, 10:58 AM	#408 (permalink)
Remora Wraith Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Age: 23 Posts: 4,714	So Texaco and Shell don't exist in America? Really, also learn to read I didn't say 12% I said 112% moron. Christ if you can't comprehend what's in front of you then why do you think anyone would take anything you say seriously. And it isn't a monopoly as you said yourself it's a rhythm game, what do you want to create a whole new class of product "rhythm games with multiple peripherals" because that is all it is. And I think you'll find the real cause of the price difference is the current poor state of the dollar, typically there is about $1.50 to £1, currently you're looking at $2 to £1. Now for some simple maths, if you consider the current rock abdn price in america ranges between $150 and $170, we'll take the $170 price because that's probably the current high street retail price and that has come down from the original $200 RRP beings as it has been out for 6 months. If you convert $170 to pounds at the typical exchange rate you get £113, now just for one second lets consider the typical US-UK mark-up, the average game in the US retails at $50-60 and in the UK for £40-50, so there is at a typical exchange rate about a 20% mark-up. So now lets adjust that £113 by 20% and you get £135 + vat and we get about £160. Not that I'm saying we're not paying over the odds, we are, but not by anywhere near what you're saying we are, and when you consider the original US RRP of $200 than conversion works out at £188. The problem is that the US economy is in shambles and you people are considering the price of the game six months after it's release. Had they been released worldwide at the same time the price difference would've seemed smaller due to the RRPs being at their highest and the exchange rate being more stable. __________________ We are sorry in the most sarcastic sense of the word.

13-06-2008, 03:12 PM	#413 (permalink)
Remora Wraith Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Age: 23 Posts: 4,714	But games prices haven't come down since 2002, not due to the change in exchange rate, they've been £40 since back then, the only thing that has had an effect on games prices is online sales, cutting costs that way has reduced prices. By your logic the Rock Band price should be lower because of the exchange rate, yet also by this logic ALL games should've become cheaper due to the decline of the dollar, but it hasn't happened games are still £40 and they're still $60 in the US. But I can't be bothered to argue anymore, as high as the price is winging about it on a forum won't change anything, boycotting it won't make any difference either, and if you think otherwise you're an idiot. So go on, keep on moaning if you think it'll help, its been what a month and a half since they announced the price and they haven't said or changed anything so take the hint. __________________ We are sorry in the most sarcastic sense of the word.

13-06-2008, 04:06 PM	#415 (permalink)
Remora Wraith Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Age: 23 Posts: 4,714	No I called you an idiot for thinking that posting about it on the internet will change anything. And no I don't want a job at EA I just worked hard at school so I could afford nice things, and worked a way around it anyway. I'm not defending EA I've just come to accept that stuff in the UK costs more, it always has and always will, moaning on the internet isn't going to do anything about it. What about the PS3? $600 and £425 ($800) it's not just rock band it's everything and people still buy it, so you have two choices, moan and winge about it or move somewhere else. My exchange rate was just an example it wasn't meant to be the exact exchange rate just a rough example of how it has changed, but if you want to be so picky you're using the US current retail price, and comparing it the the UK launch RRP, the US launch RRP was $200, so really the price is £146.33 so actually they're screwing us out of 33.67. Oh yes and the prices don't include US sales tax which varies from state to state and can be between 4 and 12 percent I believe. __________________ We are sorry in the most sarcastic sense of the word. Last edited by Remora Wraith; 13-06-2008 at 04:11 PM..

13-06-2008, 04:40 PM	#417 (permalink)
Scooper Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 132	Wooooh big argument going on here. Blalalahe way things get changed is by voicing your opinion on the internet. But MahrVehl is completely right, the factors would of affected all games not just this one and the usual markup of about 50% we expect has gone to about 120% (Estimate). So stop thinking your so high and mighty Remora and go back to playing rock band you traitor. And you said working at school bought you nice things??? A school that pays to go? Sort yourself out man and stop grouching off your parents __________________

13-06-2008, 05:14 PM	#418 (permalink)
Remora Wraith Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Age: 23 Posts: 4,714	Stop grouching off my parents? HAHAHA you're the one who's parents bought them the game and you're calling me a traitor? Firstly I never said I wasn't going to buy it I said I was importing my drums for a fraction of the cost and just buying the game, and secondly I have a nice job which earns me enough to buy rock band, and yes school did pay for my stuff because I got good grades to get a nice job. And no moaning on the internet doesn't change things, it hasn't even got you a statement, and they won't drop the price in Europe until after the PS3 version launches. Bottom line is I thought was it worth spending £90 on and I thought that it was, I'll have fun playing it and you guys can circle jerk each other over how right you are and how wrong EA are all you want. But it still doesn't change the price no matter how much you want it to or think it will. Yes the PS3 price was dropped, and what happened? Sales went up, it's a marketing strategy, people think the price has gone down so now is the time to buy it, and so they do. And actually the price in the UK wasn't dropped they just added a pad and a crappy game, and even then that was more than 8 months after the US launch. But the PS3 hardly failed, what with it being the fastest selling console in history after launch. The exchange rate wouldn't have affected all games, because the value of the dollar dropped and games prices didn't, but we long ago established that the exchange rate doesn't actually have much to do with it. __________________ We are sorry in the most sarcastic sense of the word. Last edited by Remora Wraith; 13-06-2008 at 05:31 PM..

13-06-2008, 06:07 PM	#419 (permalink)
Remora Wraith Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Age: 23 Posts: 4,714	Sorry, just realised I've been getting my maths wrong, I worked out the percentage difference not the percentage mark-up on games from the US to UK. As scooper said it's actually 50% (well 51% on the three games I checked). __________________ We are sorry in the most sarcastic sense of the word.

14-06-2008, 12:27 AM	#420 (permalink)
Scooper Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 132	Right i think the conversation should probably go back to the bundles and pricing as the title says. One thing i can say that people were asking bout is that inside the instruments box thr are smaller manuals for the guitar and drums in multi language. so why this couldnt of been done with the main game manual??? Would of meant the game could of been supplied with the instruments. Like they've managed to add flippin power convertors for the USB hub, so why not that __________________

14-06-2008, 01:01 PM	#421 (permalink)
raven2751 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 19	EAUK_OMNI have a look at this almost 4000 lost sales totaling about £1.3m i know this won't make much of a difference but think if those people refuse to buy any more EA products your sales revenue will decrease very rapidly

15-06-2008, 09:53 AM	#423 (permalink)
Remora Wraith Forum Junkie Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Age: 23 Posts: 4,714	Erm what? Firstly what's your source of this 4000 lost sales? You stated this figure with no link to a sales tracker or anything. Secondly the revenue from 4000 sales wouldn't reach anywhere near £1.3m, at best if every single lost sale were a full set of rock band and the band in the box bought at the full RRP the total would only be £720,000. __________________ We are sorry in the most sarcastic sense of the word.

15-06-2008, 08:54 PM	#425 (permalink)
Scooper Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 132	Good point. I havent heard any news recently on rock band coming out anywhere else??? And if it flops that badly then no chance of a sequel. Feel sorry for harmonix right now as this is the only game they've got and if this fails because of EAs shoddy EU release, well what can i say __________________