Official Arsenal FC Thread - Page 13

y0daddyalex · 07-11-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kop2k8

I have a question for you gooners, how do you incorperate nasri,walcott,cesc and arshavin and RVP in the same team?

I think Wenger is trying to play with 2 defensive minded midfielders more this year, but last year it was only Song or Denilson playing back, and 3 offensive midfielders.

Walcott Denilson Fabregas Nasri
RVP Arshavin

or this year with the 4-3-3

Fabregas Song Nasri
Walcott RVP Arshavin

But against most teams you probably want a stronger midfielder in there instead of Fabregas and Nasri. Personally I would try it out and see how well they do with it but Wenger seems to want to play either Eboue or Diaby in the back

efterklang · 07-11-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by y0daddyalex

I disagree we had that problem last year but this year things are different. The game against 'Villa was a mistake to never happen again

What about West Ham and Alkmaar away? We could have and should have put those games to bed, but we didn't and we ended up dropping points.

y0daddyalex · 07-11-2009, 03:54 PM

well to be honest in both games a lot of players just simply missed the target, hitting the woodwork, or not connecting. Both games we should have scored more to begin with so a last minute goal wouldn't have mattered. It's not like they struggled to get scoring chances, and then collapsed and lost the games. Some days the goals just don't come, and thats when you need to hunker down defensively and not let any other goals in, which goes back to my point about the weakness of Gallas

I'm OK with teams coming back to tie. The issue I have is teams coming back and getting all 3 points. That's when you know Arsenal are back to their old selves of giving up leads.

kop2k8 · 07-11-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by y0daddyalex

I think Wenger is trying to play with 2 defensive minded midfielders more this year, but last year it was only Song or Denilson playing back, and 3 offensive midfielders.

Walcott Denilson Fabregas Nasri
RVP Arshavin

or this year with the 4-3-3

Fabregas Song Nasri
Walcott RVP Arshavin

But against most teams you probably want a stronger midfielder in there instead of Fabregas and Nasri. Personally I would try it out and see how well they do with it but Wenger seems to want to play either Eboue or Diaby in the back

Yeah so maybe playing like barca with cesc as your xavi and nasri as you iniesta type players, that would look good.

Willie-Beaman · 07-11-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kop2k8

Yeah so maybe playing like barca with cesc as your xavi and nasri as you iniesta type players, that would look good.

Thats exactly what i thought we'd be doing when we have a fit squad although Nasri seems to be dangerous with a license to roam like against AZ Alkmaar the other day.

y0daddyalex · 07-11-2009, 04:59 PM

the problem with that is Fabregas also roams, so that leaves only Song back there to defend with the back 4, and the wing backs and Gallas love to come forward too. Which means we get caught on the counter attack and give up easy goals that way. I think if Nasri and Fabregas take turns moving forward, and Clichy/Sagna don't come up as much, it will be better

y0daddyalex · 07-11-2009, 04:59 PM

on another note does anyone know when Denilson will be back? I would start him over Song once healthy

but then again I would play Song at CB in front of Gallas

Velaa · 07-11-2009, 06:09 PM

Almunia
Sagna Gallas Vermaelen Gibbs
Fabregas Ramsey Diaby
Eduardo VanPersie Arshavin

Im guessing thats our line-up. Don't know why Song has been replaced by Ramsey though, we don't have any defensive midfielders?!

st3adman · 07-11-2009, 06:14 PM

Nvm.

y0daddyalex · 08-11-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Velaa

Almunia
Sagna Gallas Vermaelen Gibbs
Fabregas Ramsey Diaby
Eduardo VanPersie Arshavin

Im guessing thats our line-up. Don't know why Song has been replaced by Ramsey though, we don't have any defensive midfielders?!

I assumed Song was tired from playing midweek? Or AW decided to give Ramsey a run against a lesser PL team. Good experience, I love when he does that.

Velaa · 08-11-2009, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by y0daddyalex

I assumed Song was tired from playing midweek? Or AW decided to give Ramsey a run against a lesser PL team. Good experience, I love when he does that.

Song didn't get much of a rest, Diaby got injured so Song come on

But yeah, Rasmey had a good game and should have scored at somepoint imo.

Willie-Beaman · 08-11-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Velaa

Song didn't get much of a rest, Diaby got injured so Song come on

But yeah, Rasmey had a good game and should have scored at somepoint imo.

I thought when Song came on he was brilliant. We were getting overrun abit defensively, but he came on and broke up wolves play.. gave us some calm in midfield.

He really changed the game.

efterklang · 08-11-2009, 05:04 PM

Eduardo should have passed it back to Ramsey rather than try chipping the keeper. I was really upset when I saw he wasn't going to do that because Ramsey really deserved to score.

sam. · 08-11-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by y0daddyalex

on another note does anyone know when Denilson will be back? I would start him over Song once healthy

but then again I would play Song at CB in front of Gallas

Song is our best DM, no question. Dunno what you're on about, he's been absolute class this year, as has Gallas. I watched the Wolves match (it's good fun that, you should try it sometime) and when was it Song came on, about 20 minutes? Suddenly Wolves weren't having as many corners and opportunities like that, coincidence? No.

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Originally Posted by y0daddyalex

well to be honest in both games a lot of players just simply missed the target, hitting the woodwork, or not connecting. Both games we should have scored more to begin with so a last minute goal wouldn't have mattered. It's not like they struggled to get scoring chances, and then collapsed and lost the games. Some days the goals just don't come, and thats when you need to hunker down defensively and not let any other goals in, which goes back to my point about the weakness of Gallas

I'm OK with teams coming back to tie. The issue I have is teams coming back and getting all 3 points. That's when you know Arsenal are back to their old selves of giving up leads.

You always have to bring Gallas up don't you?

If you were watching Soccer Saturday the other day, Charlie Nicholas, someone who knows about football unlike you, was going on about how incredibly good Gallas has been. How come everyone here and Charlie Nicholas all agree that Gallas has been good - except for you. Basically, everything you've said, everyone has disagreed with. If only one person disagreed, then fine, but everyone who knows about Arsenal has disagreed with what you have to say.

sam. · 08-11-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by efterklang

Eduardo should have passed it back to Ramsey rather than try chipping the keeper. I was really upset when I saw he wasn't going to do that because Ramsey really deserved to score.

I think it was a pass actually, if you look at where the ball was going, it looked to be more in the direction of Ramsey. I thought Eduardo was pretty poor to be honest, quite lazy too.

DBond5 · 09-11-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by y0daddyalex

on another note does anyone know when Denilson will be back? I would start him over Song once healthy

but then again I would play Song at CB in front of Gallas

Why would you try to fix something that isn't broken? Song excels in the CDM role and Denilson was playing fine alongside Fabregas in the heart of the midfield.

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Originally Posted by Velaa

Almunia
Sagna Gallas Vermaelen Gibbs
Fabregas Ramsey Diaby
Eduardo VanPersie Arshavin

Im guessing thats our line-up. Don't know why Song has been replaced by Ramsey though, we don't have any defensive midfielders?!

I think Diaby was playing more the Song role.

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Originally Posted by Willie-Beaman

I thought when Song came on he was brilliant. We were getting overrun abit defensively, but he came on and broke up wolves play.. gave us some calm in midfield.

He really changed the game.

Completely agree, Wolves seemed less confident once Song came on. It just shows Song's dominance in the midfield, he's gonna be proper missed during the ACoNs

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Originally Posted by efterklang

Eduardo should have passed it back to Ramsey rather than try chipping the keeper. I was really upset when I saw he wasn't going to do that because Ramsey really deserved to score.

I was so annoyed! The link up play was brilliant, one last pass to Ramsey and he would have been through on goal but Eduardo went for the selfish chip instead. Fair enough we scored, through a slight deflection but thought that was a bit selfish of Eduardo. Ramsey is looking top class at his age already and glad he chose us over United, Im sure he's glad he made that decision as well

kyro7 · 09-11-2009, 11:08 AM

Wolves v Arsenal

Avatars

Signatures

DBond5 · 09-11-2009, 11:39 AM

Did you make those yourself, Kyro?

Jamess_Pine · 09-11-2009, 11:48 AM

Wait till 19th December, we are gonna come to your place and go home with another 3 points!

DBond5 · 09-11-2009, 12:08 PM

Chill, you're still struggling with the lower teams, let alone the Top 4.

Jamess_Pine · 09-11-2009, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DBond5

Chill, you're still struggling with the lower teams, let alone the Top 4.

I am chilled, just stating a point

DBond5 · 09-11-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamess_Pine

I am chilled, just stating a point

Make sure you got Gallas closely marked this time

y0daddyalex · 09-11-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by efterklang

Eduardo should have passed it back to Ramsey rather than try chipping the keeper. I was really upset when I saw he wasn't going to do that because Ramsey really deserved to score.

he didn't try to chip the keeper, he tried to chip the ball to Ramsey. Ramsey wanted it on the ground but chances are the defender would have kicked it away

y0daddyalex · 09-11-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sam.

You always have to bring Gallas up don't you?

If you were watching Soccer Saturday the other day, Charlie Nicholas, someone who knows about football unlike you, was going on about how incredibly good Gallas has been. How come everyone here and Charlie Nicholas all agree that Gallas has been good - except for you. Basically, everything you've said, everyone has disagreed with. If only one person disagreed, then fine, but everyone who knows about Arsenal has disagreed with what you have to say.

incredible? we must be watching 2 different game feeds. he has been nothing but average

kyro7 · 09-11-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DBond5

Did you make those yourself, Kyro?

Yes, I did.

Me and Sixtoo made a thread were we make sigs of games basically.

Sixtoo and Kyro's Real Football Showcase

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y0daddyalex Forum Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,042	well to be honest in both games a lot of players just simply missed the target, hitting the woodwork, or not connecting. Both games we should have scored more to begin with so a last minute goal wouldn't have mattered. It's not like they struggled to get scoring chances, and then collapsed and lost the games. Some days the goals just don't come, and thats when you need to hunker down defensively and not let any other goals in, which goes back to my point about the weakness of Gallas I'm OK with teams coming back to tie. The issue I have is teams coming back and getting all 3 points. That's when you know Arsenal are back to their old selves of giving up leads.

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y0daddyalex Forum Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,042	the problem with that is Fabregas also roams, so that leaves only Song back there to defend with the back 4, and the wing backs and Gallas love to come forward too. Which means we get caught on the counter attack and give up easy goals that way. I think if Nasri and Fabregas take turns moving forward, and Clichy/Sagna don't come up as much, it will be better

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y0daddyalex Forum Guru Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,042	on another note does anyone know when Denilson will be back? I would start him over Song once healthy but then again I would play Song at CB in front of Gallas

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