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[fitz15]

Originally Posted by DannyB

Owen Hargreaves

If anyone read the Daily Mail yesterday, considering that said Fletch may need an ankle operation(maybe it's bull, I dunno) Hargo's return couldn't be greater timed

I remember seeing Fletcher say somewhere he is going to get injections and play through the pain, then get the op in the summer, like what Ronaldo did.

[DannyB]

Originally Posted by fitz15

I remember seeing Fletcher say somewhere he is going to get injections and play through the pain, then get the op in the summer, like what Ronaldo did.

If it works for him and he carries on playing to his normal standard, there's no problem.

After all, it got Jonny Evans through the Inter game at the San Siro last season

[fitz15]

Originally Posted by DannyB

If it works for him and he carries on playing to his normal standard, there's no problem.

After all, it got Jonny Evans through the Inter game at the San Siro last season

And it got Ronaldo 42 goals in the one season!

[has7]

It sure did

[FifaFreaky]

can't wait for the game against chelsea!

[iFootballer]

And it got Ronaldo 42 goals in the one season!

42? that really is a lalalalaload of goals for one player...damn we certainly are missing him

[kyro7]

Originally Posted by iFootballer

And it got Ronaldo 42 goals in the one season!

42? that really is a lalalalaload of goals for one player...damn we certainly are missing him

Yeah, 42 goals in all competitions, what a player.

[wellzsauce]

42? that really is a lalalalaload of goals for one player...damn we certainly are missing him

how is this news to you?

[kyro7]

Originally Posted by wellzsauce

how is this news to you?

I was sort of thinking that.

[ViVaRooney]

i think he was just looking at it in the context of now, back then 42 goals you were like"nice" but now when you miss the goals it looks even more impressive

that or he only started supporting united this year

[TevezIsOverrated]

Maybe he watches the matches with no commentary.
They do mention Ronaldos 42 goals every game.

[iFootballer]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

i think he was just looking at it in the context of now, back then 42 goals you were like"nice" but now when you miss the goals it looks even more impressive

thank you

[sixtoo]

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Let's take it to the Bridge

Sir Alex Ferguson wants to see a return to the days when he enjoyed trips to Stamford Bridge and United prospered with an excellent record.

The last 10 fixtures against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge bear a stark contrast with the 10 that came before them. In the last 10, United have won only once, drawn four and lost five. Before it, the stats read: won five, drew three, lost two. Those figures are undoubtedly skewed by Chelsea’s rise to prominence as title contenders, but still, Sir Alex naturally prefers the earlier statistics.

“We would like to improve our record there,” said the boss. “It’s not been that great in the last few years. We’ve had a couple of draws but nothing more than that. We hope to improve on that. It’s strange, we used to have a terrific record at Stamford Bridge, but in the last few years we’ve let it slip. We have to get our act together. But the players realise it’s a big game and that their performance is going to be important.”

Even at this early stage, the game will be discussed as a potentially decisive in the title race. Sir Alex doesn’t think it’s as cut and dry as that, but there is a marked difference between going top or being five points behind Chelsea come Sunday evening.

“It doesn’t come into my thinking that it is a league decider,” countered the boss. “But it could be an important game. Towards the end of the season, you might think, ’I’m glad we got a result at Chelsea’. But it’s difficult to pinpoint the importance of Sunday in relation to where we’ll be in May.”

Sir Alex has been impressed with the consistency of Chelsea under Carlo Ancelotti, a coach and former player he admires greatly. “Ancelotti was a great coach at AC Milan and he’s brought a wealth of experience to Chelsea. He was also aterrific player. With his knowledge of the game, I thought he would do well. What he has done is to bring a different system to Chelsea. It seems to have done well for him.”

Chelsea’s diamond formation in midfield, with two strikers ahead of them, makes for a more attacking Chelsea side than in the days of Jose Mourinho, where almost mechanical defensive qualities were among their main assets.

“Ancelotti has a very experienced team,” continues Sir Alex. “And when you have that it’s maybe easier to adapt to new tactics or a new system because those players have more tactical knowledge than younger players.”

It could all make for a more open and attacking game at Stamford Bridge but, regardless of the pattern of play, Sir Alex wants to see his team really test Ancelotti’s side.

[den525player]

was just thinking lol... if Rafa was fired at liverpool a few years back Torres would of moved to United and we would never of bought Berbatov... thinking more... fergie said that he wasn't willing to pay for torres' price tag of 24m yet a year later he was more than happy to pay for 30m for berbatov.

im sure he is still having nightmares lol

[DannyB]

Originally Posted by den525player

was just thinking lol... if Rafa was fired at liverpool a few years back Torres would of moved to United and we would never of bought Berbatov... thinking more... fergie said that he wasn't willing to pay for torres' price tag of 24m yet a year later he was more than happy to pay for 30m for berbatov.

im sure he is still having nightmares lol

Wow.



He was only willing to pay £30m for Berba because Spurs were being t**s about the transfer and demanding as much cash as possible.

[ViVaRooney]

and he left it so late it was either berba or no one and we needed more striker then rooney and tevez

and once again you cant go 1 week without mentioning berba it is seriously worrying

i wanted torres here more then benzema, but it was obvious he didnt want to come here, and i am pretty it wasnt the price that stops fergie from bidding it was the fact that torres proffered liverpool buit he isnt gonna say that is he? it hurts me to say that

[Anderson=klass]

Torres was a boyhood Man Utd fan, or so I hear.

[DannyB]

Originally Posted by Anderson=klass

Torres was a boyhood Man Utd fan, or so I hear.

Some fan he was with YNWA on his Atletico armband

[den525player]

Originally Posted by DannyB

Wow.



He was only willing to pay £30m for Berba because Spurs were being t**s about the transfer and demanding as much cash as possible.

Its not even about berbatov, its about United didn't sign Torres when we had the chance to but Fergie wasn't willing to cough up the cash. and said it was too expensive.

If Spurs was asking too much why didn't fergie tell them to where to stick it?

Don't want to turn this to berbatov v tevez... but when Torres was available... united only had rooney and ronaldo scoring all the goals, with Solskjaer being a little bit injury prone same with saha.

when berbatov was available we had rooney, ronaldo and tevez... thats why i still don't see the logic, where when we needed to splash the big bucks on a player like torres we didn't, but when we didn't need to spend the big bucks we did.

[DannyB]

Its not even about berbatov, its about United didn't sign Torres when we had the chance to but Fergie wasn't willing to cough up the cash. and said it was too expensive.

If Spurs was asking too much why didn't fergie tell them to where to stick it?

Don't want to turn this to berbatov v tevez... but when Torres was available... united only had rooney and ronaldo scoring all the goals, with Solskjaer being a little bit injury prone same with saha.

when berbatov was available we had rooney, ronaldo and tevez... thats why i still don't see the logic, where when we needed to splash the big bucks on a player like torres we didn't, but when we didn't need to spend the big bucks we did.

As Viva said we needed another striker

Of course it's about Berbatov, why the **** mention him if it's not about him?

**** off lalalalalala

[Anderson=klass]

Originally Posted by DannyB

Some fan he was with YNWA on his Atletico armband

Supposedly that was a thing between him and his friends. But no one will ever really know.

[den525player]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

and he left it so late it was either berba or no one and we needed more striker then rooney and tevez

and once again you cant go 1 week without mentioning berba it is seriously worrying

i wanted torres here more then benzema, but it was obvious he didnt want to come here, and i am pretty it wasnt the price that stops fergie from bidding it was the fact that torres proffered liverpool buit he isnt gonna say that is he? it hurts me to say that

i didn't have to mention berbatov because luckily he didn't play

and this is not a topic about berbatov, im just regretting why we didn't sign torres.

There is no point thinking about signing torres now because that will NEVER happen. He actually wanted to come to united, but united didn't want to get into a bidding war with Liverpool and Torres decided to move to liverpool because of rafa and the spanish connection as well

[Laurencioso]

Originally Posted by den525player

Its not even about berbatov, its about United didn't sign Torres when we had the chance to but Fergie wasn't willing to cough up the cash. and said it was too expensive.

If Spurs was asking too much why didn't fergie tell them to where to stick it?

Don't want to turn this to berbatov v tevez... but when Torres was available... united only had rooney and ronaldo scoring all the goals, with Solskjaer being a little bit injury prone same with saha.

when berbatov was available we had rooney, ronaldo and tevez... thats why i still don't see the logic, where when we needed to splash the big bucks on a player like torres we didn't, but when we didn't need to spend the big bucks we did.

The logic is simple.

Torres - Unproven young-spaniard from an above average La Liga club. Fantastic talent, but there were a lot of risks involved.

Berbatov - Premiership star, proven in the premier-league from above average PL club.

26-30M was considered too much for a player that no-one were sure could handle the premier league. Berbatov had proven himself for years and had proved himself to be one of the most complete strikers in the premiership.

Ergo it makes more sense to pay more for him than Torres.
Fergie showed he had learned from that mistake however as he went for Benzema (with quite a lot of money on the table I'll add)

[ViVaRooney]

Originally Posted by den525player

i didn't have to mention berbatov because luckily he didn't play

and this is not a topic about berbatov, im just regretting why we didn't sign torres.

There is no point thinking about signing torres now because that will NEVER happen. He actually wanted to come to united, but united didn't want to get into a bidding war with Liverpool and Torres decided to move to liverpool because of rafa and the spanish connection as well

i meant i wanted torres more 2 years ago then i wanted benzema this summer, obviously there is no way he will come now

@bold: way to make up stuff, we made 2 offers for him in the previous 2 summers and he turned us down twice, once because he felt he was too young then second was they brought in a new manager and he was excited by the project so he stayed. though i think those were just excuses cause he didnt want to come here

[den525player]

Originally Posted by DannyB

As Viva said we needed another striker

Of course it's about Berbatov, why the **** mention him if it's not about him?

**** off lalalalalala

your an idiot.

where is your logic?

1. when torres was available we only had rooney as a full fit striker with solskjaer and saha constantly injured.
2. when we bought berbatov we had rooney and tevez.

Regardless of if it was berbatov or someone else, it doesn't matter... it is just surprising that Fergie or even u 2 didn't think it was necessary to buy a striker when we had 1 recognised fit striker but when we had 2 recognised striker and after ronaldo scored 42 goals it was NECESSARY to buy.

where is the logic?