Top 4 - Who Has The Best? - Page 2

SPECIAL_STEVEN · 04-07-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Loadsamoney

Rubbish. Yes Ballack could have perhaps done better to block it, but it was a wonder strike that no goalkeeper in Europe could have saved.

I would agree the build up was great, but i see better goals than that in the championship every matchday.

Anathematic · 04-07-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Loadsamoney

I think Chelsea have the best defence in the world, let alone the Premiership. Ashley Cole's once again become the best left back in Europe, John Terry is the best central defender in the world and has been for quite some time now and Petr Cech is still one of the world's top 3-5 goalkeepers, despite an indifferent season.

They demonstrated their defensive strength against the world's most dangerous attack in Barcelona in the Champions League. Took a wonder goal from Andres Iniesta to beat them.

Do you watch the same Cech as me? Cech is extremely flattered by his defence and an average keeper at best...

Valdes, Casillas, Buffon, Julio Cesar, Reina, Diego Lopez, Renan, Akinfeev, Frey, Lloris, Ochoa and even arguably Tim Howard are miles ahead of Cech. He hasn't been the same since he had his head caved in.

The Citizen · 04-07-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mode560

Squad: With a fully fit squad, we have the likes of Deco, Ballack, Kalou, Carvalho/Alex, Ivanovic, Anelka/Drogba (if playing 1 striker), Belletti and Di Santo on the bench. I could have said more but i think this is enough.

Midfield: Joe Cole, Lampard, Essien, Malouda, Ballack, Deco, Mikel. K?

I don't rate those in the slightest, don't start telling me that your better because you have players who've won a CL and never will at Chelsea.

Anathematic · 04-07-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SPECIAL_STEVEN

Im slightly confused about people picking Man Utd for Strikeforce.

Rooney - Just runs all over the pitch, covers ever blade of grass but doesn't score an amazing amount of goals.

Berbatov - Doesn't run and doesn't score many goals.

Owen - 30 goals in the last 4 years.

Because an on form Rooney and Berbatov are quality and for a back up player Owen isn't bad either.

Drogba and Anelka are probably better, but Chelsea's backup isn't as strong.

Matieo10 · 04-07-2009, 01:41 AM

Strikeforce: Arsenal
Midfield: Man Utd
Defence: Chelsea
Squad: Liverpool

Everybody wins!

Mode560 · 04-07-2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 7_Robert_Pires

Do you watch the same Cech as me? Cech is extremely flattered by his defence and an average keeper at best...

Valdes, Casillas, Buffon, Julio Cesar, Reina, Diego Lopez, Renan, Akinfeev, Frey, Lloris, Ochoa and even arguably Tim Howard are miles ahead of Cech. He hasn't been the same since he had his head caved in.

lalalala. Im suprised you didn't mention Almunia and Fabianski in that list!

The only keepers comparable to Cech there is Casillas, Buffon, Julio Cesar and maybe Reina.

Everyone has an off-season if you didn't know.

The Citizen · 04-07-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 7_Robert_Pires

Do you watch the same Cech as me? Cech is extremely flattered by his defence and an average keeper at best...

Valdes, Casillas, Buffon, Julio Cesar, Reina, Diego Lopez, Renan, Akinfeev, Frey, Lloris, Ochoa and even arguably Tim Howard are miles ahead of Cech. He hasn't been the same since he had his head caved in.

This. Even Asenjo I rate higher, possibly that Schalke keeper. But I think Valdes is utter lalalala. I hate Hunt though, lalalala

Anathematic · 04-07-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Matieo10

Strikeforce: Arsenal
Midfield: Man Utd
Defence: Chelsea
Squad: Liverpool

Everybody wins!

Man Utd's first choice midfield is pretty weak to be honest...

To keep everyone happy swap Man U and Chelsea!

The Citizen · 04-07-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Matieo10

Strikeforce: Arsenal
Midfield: Man Utd
Defence: Chelsea
Squad: Liverpool

Everybody wins!

Your trying to be funny and failing again...

<<That is overused by you

Mode560 · 04-07-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by The Citizen

I don't rate those in the slightest, don't start telling me that your better because you have players who've won a CL and never will at Chelsea.

Then you obviously haven't watched us last season.

How can you not rate the top scorer of the EPL? How can you not rate Malouda who was on fire for the last half a season? How can you not rate Mikel for being one of our top 5 best players last season?

Your a joke seriously.

Luxz0rz · 04-07-2009, 01:44 AM

Strikeforce: Arsenal

Midfield: Chelsea

Defence: Chelsea

Squad: Chelsea

Funny that Man Utd end up the best then but meh.

Anathematic · 04-07-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mode560

lalalala. Im suprised you didn't mention Almunia and Fabianski in that list!

The only keepers comparable to Cech there is Casillas, Buffon, Julio Cesar and maybe Reina.

Everyone has an off-season if you didn't know.

I didn't mention them because I don't think they are better players. It's called not being blinded by the club you support.

If you think Cech has been better than Diego Lopez, Akinfeev, Ochoa and Lloris the last few years then you obviously haven't seen them play.

The Citizen · 04-07-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mode560

Then you obviously haven't watched us last season.

How can you not rate the top scorer of the EPL? How can you not rate Malouda who was on fire for the last half a season? How can you not rate Mikel for being one of our top 5 best players last season? Deco i understand.

Your a joke seriously.

Le Sulk scored about 15 in a few games and then sat on tat achievement, Malouda, well and Mikel, he isn't Makelele is he?

Mode560 · 04-07-2009, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 7_Robert_Pires

I didn't mention them because I don't think they are better players. It's called not being blinded by the club you support.

If you think Cech has been better than Diego Lopez, Akinfeev, Ochoa and Lloris the last few years then you obviously haven't seen them play.

No, then YOU obviously haven't seen Cech played. I bet you didn't even know all 3 of them when Cech was on fire and when we won the 2 consecutive EPL titles!

King-Osgood-1690 · 04-07-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mode560

Squad: With a fully fit squad, we have the likes of Deco, Ballack, Kalou, Carvalho/Alex, Ivanovic, Anelka/Drogba (if playing 1 striker), Belletti and Di Santo on the bench. I could have said more but i think this is enough.

Midfield: Joe Cole, Lampard, Essien, Malouda, Ballack, Deco, Mikel. K?

Why did you include Deco, he has been rubbish!

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Originally Posted by The Citizen

I don't rate those in the slightest, don't start telling me that your better because you have players who've won a CL and never will at Chelsea.

How can you not rate a golden boot winner from last season?

Anyway, with regards to the op:

Strikeforce: Liverpool

Midfield: Arsenal

Defence: Chelsea

Squad: Man United

Ps3FifaCfc95 · 04-07-2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 7_Robert_Pires

Do you watch the same Cech as me? Cech is extremely flattered by his defence and an average keeper at best...

Valdes, Casillas, Buffon, Julio Cesar, Reina, Diego Lopez, Renan, Akinfeev, Frey, Lloris, Ochoa and even arguably Tim Howard are miles ahead of Cech. He hasn't been the same since he had his head caved in.

I was agreeing with you until that list. Only Casillas, Buffon, Julio Cesar and maybe Reina are better than him.
In response to the arrogant Chelsea fan, this thread is a matter of opinion, if I wanted to I could say Hull have the best strikeforce in the world and nothing could make me change my mind. Just respect opinions and let them have them even if you disagree.

ponka00 · 04-07-2009, 01:47 AM

Strikeforce: Arsenal

Midfield: Manchester United

Defense: Manchester United (Ferdinand being just as good as Terry and Vidic being twice the player Carvalho and Alex is)

Squad: Liverpool

SPECIAL_STEVEN · 04-07-2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 7_Robert_Pires

Because an on form Rooney and Berbatov are quality and for a back up player Owen isn't bad either.

Drogba and Anelka are probably better, but Chelsea's backup isn't as strong.

Berbatov has not been on form since he joined Man Utd, 1 or 2 times he turns up doesnt really count in a 38 game season.

Rooney doesn't score enough goals for me.

Mode560 · 04-07-2009, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Citizen

Le Sulk scored about 15 in a few games and then sat on tat achievement, Malouda, well and Mikel, he isn't Makelele is he?

so what if he didn't score for a period of time? Anelka is still the top scorer isn't he?

How can you compare Mikel and Makelele? Look at the age difference

Anathematic · 04-07-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mode560

No, then YOU obviously haven't seen Cech played. I bet you didn't even know all 3 of them when Cech was on fire and when we won the 2 consecutive EPL titles!

I actually watch football other than the team I support, so whilst yes, Cech was good, possibly even the best in the world for a while, the fact remains he hasn't been the same since the Hunt incident. He flaps at crosses, lets in things he should save and doesn't command his area.

Were all the keepers I mentioned better than him back then? No, are they better than him now? Without a doubt.

Take the blue tinted glasses off for a while and actually watch a few games with these keepers, you'll see what I mean.

Mode560 · 04-07-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by King-Osgood-1690

Why did you include Deco, he has been rubbish!

I included Deco for the squad because he is still a very good player even though he has been rubbish last season and we have him on our bench. Midfield...pretty much the same coz hes on our bench.

The Citizen · 04-07-2009, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mode560

so what if he didn't score for a period of time? Anelka is still the top scorer isn't he?

How can you compare Mikel and Makelele? Look at the age difference

Why should I look at an age difference? Shouldn't his youth and stamina make him better?

IMO he won you a few games, I'd rather have a player score 20 goals in each game of the twenty, than 20 with a few hat-tricks and small bit-parts

Mode560 · 04-07-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 7_Robert_Pires

If you think Cech has been better than Diego Lopez, Akinfeev, Ochoa and Lloris the last few years then you obviously haven't seen them play.

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Originally Posted by 7_Robert_Pires

Were all the keepers I mentioned better than him back then? No, are they better than him now? Without a doubt.

Mode560 · 04-07-2009, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Citizen

Why should I look at an age difference? Shouldn't his youth and stamina make him better?

IMO he won you a few games, I'd rather have a player score 20 goals in each game of the twenty, than 20 with a few hat-tricks and small bit-parts

Maybe you should actually try playing the game. You get better in defending with experience and practise. And Stamina doesn't come into play here...just look at Lampard

Anathematic · 04-07-2009, 01:59 AM

Can you actually read? If I say Cech was better pre-Injury (2006) but hasn't been the same since (the present being 2009) then I'm saying between 2006 and 2009 all these players have been better...

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