Official Wellington PhoenixThread

[xWestHam]

Official Wellington Phoenix Thread

Wellington Phoenix Signings
Crowther secures keeper's contract
Greenacre: Wellington's the place to be
Diego heading across the ditch

[Holminho]

Cmon you "Nux"

[xWestHam]

Originally Posted by RerereChelsea

Cmon you "Nux"

yes boi!

Does anyone know how good Crowther and Greenacre are?

[nzgangster]

i didn't know we got Diego



hopefully he does as well.

anyone going to be watching nz vs spain?

[v3sh1]

Wellington Phoenix should NOT be in the A-League or any team from NZ for that matter. There is no point having them inthe A-League. They are not eligable to qualify for the Asian Champions League. They don't have a youth team when we could have another Aussie youth team with more youngsters aiming for a professional contract. They don't have a womens side either. Oh and they aren't even from Australia!

Anyway haha. They trying to get Chris Killens as their marquee player. He's a Celtic player but barely ever gets to play. Was one of top scorers in SPL before he signed for Celtic when he was with Hibs

[Wexicoish]

chris killen never really got a chance to be honest, he may choose to saty at celtic though just to see what his old manager tony mowbrays plans are for him

[AnfieldG8]

Yeah it's pointless having Wellington in the league. It's called the A-League for a reason. Besides, they will always be taking a spot in the league that could go to an Australian club. Hopefully next time 3 teams come in and Wellington go out.

[Nuxman]

Originally Posted by AnfieldG8

Yeah it's pointless having Wellington in the league. It's called the A-League for a reason. Besides, they will always be taking a spot in the league that could go to an Australian club. Hopefully next time 3 teams come in and Wellington go out.

You're a moron. The reason the FFA want Wellington in the A-League is the huge benefit it is for transtasman sponsors such as Qantas and Hyundai to have exposure in two markets. Plus, there are not enough viable options in Australia to keep expanding - the two new licences for next season are still trying to get up to speed and the FFA want to keep expanding. Remember that Adelaide has practically fallen over and they are desperate to keep the same size - not make it smaller.

Get over yourself.

[xWestHam]

Anyone watching New Zealand v Italy tomorow morning?

6:45am on SkySport2

[nzgangster]

Originally Posted by v3sh1

Wellington Phoenix should NOT be in the A-League or any team from NZ for that matter.

shut up.

Cardiff City is welsh but they play in england.

Originally Posted by AnfieldG8

Yeah it's pointless having Wellington in the league. It's called the A-League for a reason. Besides, they will always be taking a spot in the league that could go to an Australian club. Hopefully next time 3 teams come in and Wellington go out.

look above...

Originally Posted by xWestHam

Anyone watching New Zealand v Italy tomorow morning?

6:45am on SkySport2

i will be watching

i didnt know it was on
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news about the new zealand team

All White defender faces Italian strike power | Stuff.co.nz

All White defender faces Italian strike power



As if facing football's world champions wasn't daunting enough, All White Ben Sigmund is set to be thrust under the spotlight in his first game back from injury.
Sigmund had off-season hip surgery and has not played a match since the Wellington Phoenix's A-League campaign ended in January, but that is about to change.
The nuggety defender is set to be chucked in the deep end when New Zealand play their final Confederations Cup warmup match, against Italy in Pretoria tomorrow morning, provided he comes through the final two training sessions.
All Whites coach Ricki Herbert has little option but to start his No1 centre back.
He will be expecting Sigmund to play a major role in the Confederations Cup, but he does not want him to go into the opening match against Spain cold.
So Italy and marking the likes of Luca Toni it is likely to be.
"He's a lot more freer and he's been looking good, so fingers crossed we're still on track for him to take part in everything from now," said Herbert, who believed starting Sigmund was probably a safer bet than bringing him on as a substitute, so he could at least be replaced of things went wrong.
New Zealand haven't had an ideal preparation off the field and a loss and draw against middle-of-the-road but not easy-beat African sides Tanzania and Botswana certainly won't have caused Marcello Lippi's Italians any sleepless nights.
Italy are coming off a 3-0 win against Northern Ireland in Pisa on Sunday and are expected to field a near full-strength team.
For New Zealand, realistically, the match is all about damage limitation, while providing Herbert who is expected to employ a more defensive-oriented 4-4-1-1 formation with a chance to play his best starting XI ahead of Monday's cup opener.
Glen Moss is expected to nudge out Mark Paston in goal, while the recalled Ivan Vicelich has impressed in warmup matches and will start, with Tony Lochhead at left back and, probably, David Mulligan on the right. Andy Boyens will probably get the call-up should Sigmund fall at the final hurdle.
Three midfield spots appear to be locked in, with captain Tim Brown and veteran Simon Elliott operating in the middle, and the speedy Leo Bertos on one flank.
Jeremy Brockie might get the nod on the other flank.
Shane Smeltz will play in the hole behind striker Chris Killen, just the second time New Zealand's top two strikers would have started a senior international together.
The All Whites are not delusional they know expectations are as low as they get, but Herbert is hoping they can "go out and play a part in the game".

"Our best team against the fifth-best Asian team in October is what I'm looking at, but we've got these two big games to deal with and, whether we have 5 per cent of the game or 20 per cent, we've got to be good with everything we do."

HOW THEY LINE UP
When: Tomorrow, 6.45am NZT TV: live on Sky Sport 2 from 6.30am
New Zealand (likely): Glen Moss, Tony Lochhead, Ben Sigmund, Ivan Vicelich, David Mulligan, Simon Elliott, Tim Brown , Leo Bertos, Jeremy Brockie, Shane Smeltz, Chris Killen. Subs from: Mark Paston, Aaron Scott, Duncan Oughton, Andy Barron, Jeremy Christie, Chris James, Steven Old, Chris Wood, Kris Bright, Jarrod Smith, James Bannatyne.

Italy (from): Gianluigi Buffon, Davide Santon, Fabio Grosso, Giorgio Chiellini, Fabio Cannavaro, Nicola Legrottaglie, Simone Pepe, Gennaro Gattuso, Luca Toni, Daniele De Rossi, Alberto Gilardino, Morgan De Sanctis, Alessandro Gamberini, Marco Amelia, Vincenzo Iaquinta, Mauro Camoranesi, Giuseppe Rossi, Angelo Palombo, Gianluca Zambrotta, Riccardo Montolivo, Andrea Pirlo, Andrea Dossena.


i know we will lose but hopefully not by too much.

smetlz to score

hopefully killen as well.

[xWestHam]

Originally Posted by nzgangster

shut up.

Cardiff City is welsh but they play in england.






look above...





i will be watching

i didnt know it was on
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news about the new zealand team

All White defender faces Italian strike power | Stuff.co.nz

All White defender faces Italian strike power



As if facing football's world champions wasn't daunting enough, All White Ben Sigmund is set to be thrust under the spotlight in his first game back from injury.
Sigmund had off-season hip surgery and has not played a match since the Wellington Phoenix's A-League campaign ended in January, but that is about to change.
The nuggety defender is set to be chucked in the deep end when New Zealand play their final Confederations Cup warmup match, against Italy in Pretoria tomorrow morning, provided he comes through the final two training sessions.
All Whites coach Ricki Herbert has little option but to start his No1 centre back.
He will be expecting Sigmund to play a major role in the Confederations Cup, but he does not want him to go into the opening match against Spain cold.
So Italy and marking the likes of Luca Toni it is likely to be.
"He's a lot more freer and he's been looking good, so fingers crossed we're still on track for him to take part in everything from now," said Herbert, who believed starting Sigmund was probably a safer bet than bringing him on as a substitute, so he could at least be replaced of things went wrong.
New Zealand haven't had an ideal preparation off the field and a loss and draw against middle-of-the-road but not easy-beat African sides Tanzania and Botswana certainly won't have caused Marcello Lippi's Italians any sleepless nights.
Italy are coming off a 3-0 win against Northern Ireland in Pisa on Sunday and are expected to field a near full-strength team.
For New Zealand, realistically, the match is all about damage limitation, while providing Herbert who is expected to employ a more defensive-oriented 4-4-1-1 formation with a chance to play his best starting XI ahead of Monday's cup opener.
Glen Moss is expected to nudge out Mark Paston in goal, while the recalled Ivan Vicelich has impressed in warmup matches and will start, with Tony Lochhead at left back and, probably, David Mulligan on the right. Andy Boyens will probably get the call-up should Sigmund fall at the final hurdle.
Three midfield spots appear to be locked in, with captain Tim Brown and veteran Simon Elliott operating in the middle, and the speedy Leo Bertos on one flank.
Jeremy Brockie might get the nod on the other flank.
Shane Smeltz will play in the hole behind striker Chris Killen, just the second time New Zealand's top two strikers would have started a senior international together.
The All Whites are not delusional they know expectations are as low as they get, but Herbert is hoping they can "go out and play a part in the game".

"Our best team against the fifth-best Asian team in October is what I'm looking at, but we've got these two big games to deal with and, whether we have 5 per cent of the game or 20 per cent, we've got to be good with everything we do."

HOW THEY LINE UP
When: Tomorrow, 6.45am NZT TV: live on Sky Sport 2 from 6.30am
New Zealand (likely): Glen Moss, Tony Lochhead, Ben Sigmund, Ivan Vicelich, David Mulligan, Simon Elliott, Tim Brown , Leo Bertos, Jeremy Brockie, Shane Smeltz, Chris Killen. Subs from: Mark Paston, Aaron Scott, Duncan Oughton, Andy Barron, Jeremy Christie, Chris James, Steven Old, Chris Wood, Kris Bright, Jarrod Smith, James Bannatyne.

Italy (from): Gianluigi Buffon, Davide Santon, Fabio Grosso, Giorgio Chiellini, Fabio Cannavaro, Nicola Legrottaglie, Simone Pepe, Gennaro Gattuso, Luca Toni, Daniele De Rossi, Alberto Gilardino, Morgan De Sanctis, Alessandro Gamberini, Marco Amelia, Vincenzo Iaquinta, Mauro Camoranesi, Giuseppe Rossi, Angelo Palombo, Gianluca Zambrotta, Riccardo Montolivo, Andrea Pirlo, Andrea Dossena.


i know we will lose but hopefully not by too much.

smetlz to score

hopefully killen as well.

they are playing a full strength team. how nice of them.

[Holminho]

Nux is crucial to the A-League. Obviously they aren't helping Australian football at grass roots but New Zealand brings a lot of money as country when TV rights issues are discussed. They field plenty of aussies anyway so it's not that bad.

Anyway i think their supporters are one of the best in the league. They certainly put Newcastle/Central Coast/Perth/Adelaide to shame easily.

[Liverpöol]

To be fair Cardiff have been in English Football for 100+ years havn't they

Welllington have been there 3. [Not 4, that was the more failed NZ club The Knights]

[Holminho]

Originally Posted by Liverpöol

To be fair Cardiff have been in English Football for 100+ years havn't they

Welllington have been there 3. [Not 4, that was the more failed NZ club The Knights]

6 of the 9 Australian a-league clubs were only created 5 years ago

NZ teams played in the NSL. You obviously don't know that as you are a wee newdawner

[parraboi1]

Phoenix Definitely deserve to be in the A-league, like said above they offer a new market (The biggest in the A-league).

Apart of Fifa letting Australia go to Asia was the fact they still had to help Oceania, and i think that was a good idea to make them do so.

Oceania where great to us and we owe them atleast a team in the A-league.Australia for a long time have had NZ teams in there national competitions and when they go well the fans come out in droves, you only have to look at the New Zealand Warriors to see this.

I personally like Phoenix as a club and think they have a great chance of becoming a big club in the A-league, so don't worry Wellington supporters your club isn't going anywhere you are more important to the A-league than clubs like the ccm.

[17_Gers4Life]

any1 no if the Nz v Italy game is being shown in Aus? if so what channel?

[17_Gers4Life]

added thread to directory

[v3sh1]

The difference with Cardiff to Wellington is that Cardiff is based in a country that's what an hour drive frm England plus also based in the same Confederation. Wellington is a few hours flight overseas, aren't in the same confederation, aren't allowed to participate in Asian Champions League and stop the development of potential future stars (there's sooooooo many proffessional teams in England that Cardiff makes no difference at all when it comes to English juniors getting a chance, Australia has 9 pro teams) plus alot of people saying Wellington is the biggest market as if they are representing all of NZ. They are representing WELLINGTON they are the WELLINGTON Phoenix not the NZ Phoenix. As if many people in Auckland or other parts of NZ would care. Wellington I think after Central Coast has the 2nd smallest population out of the cities represented in the A-League.
Australia shouldn't help NZ develop, we should help ourselves more and let NZ work it out for themselves. I have nothing against NZ, I actually want them to make the world cup and they will be my 2nd team there and I will wake up to watch their confed cup games aswell just against having a team from NZ in the A-League when the NZ team doesn't get any benfit, Australia gets alot less benefit from it than what we would if we say accepted either the Canberra, Tasmanian or Wollongong bid and the NZ juniors are barely getting any benefit the Phoenix have 1 young Kiwi player he did ok last season. They lose Smeltz and want to replace him with 2 forwards so their young gun gets no game game time. Oh and they wanted Robbie Kruse, an Australian as their U23 marquee instead of a Kiwi. They aren't helping the development of young NZ players at all

[17_Gers4Life]

Originally Posted by v3sh1

I will wake up to watch their confed cup games aswell j

wen is it on and what channel in aus?

[Holminho]

Originally Posted by v3sh1

The difference with Cardiff to Wellington is that Cardiff is based in a country that's what an hour drive frm England plus also based in the same Confederation. Wellington is a few hours flight overseas, aren't in the same confederation, aren't allowed to participate in Asian Champions League and stop the development of potential future stars (there's sooooooo many proffessional teams in England that Cardiff makes no difference at all when it comes to English juniors getting a chance, Australia has 9 pro teams) plus alot of people saying Wellington is the biggest market as if they are representing all of NZ. They are representing WELLINGTON they are the WELLINGTON Phoenix not the NZ Phoenix. As if many people in Auckland or other parts of NZ would care. Wellington I think after Central Coast has the 2nd smallest population out of the cities represented in the A-League.
Australia shouldn't help NZ develop, we should help ourselves more and let NZ work it out for themselves. I have nothing against NZ, I actually want them to make the world cup and they will be my 2nd team there and I will wake up to watch their confed cup games aswell just against having a team from NZ in the A-League when the NZ team doesn't get any benfit, Australia gets alot less benefit from it than what we would if we say accepted either the Canberra, Tasmanian or Wollongong bid and the NZ juniors are barely getting any benefit the Phoenix have 1 young Kiwi player he did ok last season. They lose Smeltz and want to replace him with 2 forwards so their young gun gets no game game time. Oh and they wanted Robbie Kruse, an Australian as their U23 marquee instead of a Kiwi. They aren't helping the development of young NZ players at all

Having Wellington DOES help Australia develop.
Why?
Because FFA get more money from FOX.

Where talking an extra 4 million people. That is almost 25% of Australia population. Wellington and NZ as a whole is an important market that brings money into the game, for both countries but more importantly Australia so the FFA can spend these things on helping not only the HAL to develop, but also other domestic clubs.

Wellington doesn't need to contribute on the pitch to help australian football. They help by bringing in new fans = money = recycled back into helping prop up A-League. This is why New Zealand has teams in almost every Australian league. Of course people don't like it but it is CRUCIAL.

Trust me mate, there are far more concerning things in Australian football than Wellington...like A-League clubs ripping off State league clubs for players.

[AnfieldG8]

Originally Posted by Nuxman

You're a moron. The reason the FFA want Wellington in the A-League is the huge benefit it is for transtasman sponsors such as Qantas and Hyundai to have exposure in two markets. Plus, there are not enough viable options in Australia to keep expanding - the two new licences for next season are still trying to get up to speed and the FFA want to keep expanding. Remember that Adelaide has practically fallen over and they are desperate to keep the same size - not make it smaller.

Get over yourself.

oh an insult...

I'm not looking at from a business point of view mate. I'm looking at it from a fans point of view. If I were a phoenix fan I'd feel pretty insulted knowing that the FFA were only keeping them in the league for money.
New Zealand only has 4 million people in the country 6/8ths of them probably union fans, an 8th league and another 8th football fans. Somehow I don't think many people in New Zealand watch football, especially when their team is rubbish. New Zealand are a hinderance to Australian football and no way should we be supporting them.

[parraboi1]

Imagine New Zealand making the world cup, like in Australia the fall for the game(even for a limited amount of time) they think wow this ain't so bad. They than need a hit of football after the world cup, so they go and watch a few matches of A-league or if travel is to much of a hindrance they chuck the game on and watch it on tv. Sure most of them get over it and move on, but a few stick around and become fully fledged football fans. All of a sudden Wellington are averaging 13-15 thousand at home games.

This than of course brings in more money for the FFA, it would also get the FFA more money from Tv rights when the are up for grabs agian. Of course Phoenix could have a cracking 2010/11 season and this would inhance attendances even more.

But the best thing about having Wellington Phoenix in the A-league is of course the fact that its an Awesome away trip.

[nzgangster]

all we need is to get into the world cup

and were beating italy 3-2 right now

and for your information alot of new zealanders watch football but most of us watch the epl because it is the only football on tv. Public tv is finaly putting soccer on. With them putting on the semis and finals of the fa cup on tv.
also prime puts on reruns sometimes.

[xWestHam]

Originally Posted by nzgangster

all we need is to get into the world cup

and were beating italy 3-2 right now

and for your information alot of new zealanders watch football but most of us watch the epl because it is the only football on tv. Public tv is finaly putting soccer on. With them putting on the semis and finals of the fa cup on tv.
also prime puts on reruns sometimes.

4-3 losing now..

[xWestHam]

does anyone know what the real phoenix kits are nxt season?