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Old 01-12-2008, 05:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Goal.com - Editorial - Calcio Debate: Is Pirlo A Hindrance To Milan?

Milan’s title challenge has taken a turn for the worse over the past month, particularly since the return from injury of Andrea Pirlo. Carlo Garganese asks whether the World Cup winner is a hindrance to the Rossoneri, and whether he can co-exist in the same team as Clarence Seedorf and Ronaldinho…


Andrea Pirlo has played four Serie A games this season, from which Milan have obtained just a single point. One draw, three defeats, and a whopping nine goals conceded. Compare this to the Rossoneri’s league record when Pirlo has not been playing: Played 10, Won Eight, Drawn Two, Lost None.

Coincidence? It seems not.

Milan were touted by many experts as Inter’s most realistic challenger for the Scudetto during the summer, but successive defeats against Bologna and Genoa at the start of the season dampened such expectations. Pirlo then suffered a thigh injury in training in the penultimate week of September, which would rule him out of action for two months.

Without Pirlo, and one must also take into account their excellent UEFA Cup form, Milan excelled. Only a few weeks ago, they had roared to the top of Serie A, and prior to the trip to Torino on November 23, the Diavoli trailed leaders Inter, who they also beat in the derby, by just a solitary point. A 2-2 draw with the Granata, followed by yesterday’s 3-1 reverse at Palermo, has suddenly seen this gap alarmingly increase to six points.

There can be no denying the genius of Pirlo. Old-school players like him are rare in today’s game and, when on form, which he clearly isn’t just yet, there isn’t a better deep-lying playmaker in the world. However, Milan certainly have a problem at the moment trying to tactically fit Pirlo into their line-up.

I personally have my doubts whether the 29-year-old can co-exist in the same team as Clarence Seedorf and Ronaldinho – two players who can also be considered as luxuries. With all three in the same starting XI, do Milan have enough defensive cover? Are they protected at set-pieces? Is there enough pace or athletic efficiency in the team?

Yesterday, Ronaldinho was the only Milan player on the pitch to shine. In fact, despite earlier missing a costly penalty, he was quite sensational in the second half, particularly in the last 20 minutes where he was beating opponents like he used to at Barcelona. It would be impossible to drop Ronnie based on his current form, but surely one of the three has to make way?

This may prove problematic though, as all three players are modern legends who are not going to take kindly to sitting on the bench. At San Siro, Milan can certainly get away with fielding the trio. Away from home, when they need to be more compact and show more resolve, there is always the danger of capitulating just like last night.

Carlo Ancelotti has a tough choice to make.
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He made 1 great pass to pato yesterday.... but he was horrible.....

I think its time for him to go... We have better players with pace like dinho & seedorf who can make more of an impact on the team.... & we need the 2 dm's because our backline is horrible.......

Zambrotta - Bonera - Maldini - Jank
Gattuso - Seedorf - Flamini
Kaka - Dinhp
Pato

should be the lineup....

the Italian fans dont want to here this, but we should really consider selling him to bring in money for a defender.......

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He made 1 great pass to pato yesterday.... but he was horrible.....

I think its time for him to go... We have better players with pace like dinho & seedorf who can make more of an impact on the team.... & we need the 2 dm's because our backline is horrible.......

Zambrotta - Bonera - Maldini - Jank
Gattuso - Seedorf - Flamini
Kaka - Seedorf
Pato

should be the lineup....

the Italian fans dont want to here this, but we should really consider selling him to bring in money for a defender.......
Why is some1 like him allowed in these forums???


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I think if that is the case, they should at least play a few games without him and see what happens. If it gets better, they should drop him from the starting XI. Even if Pirlo is pure class, he shouldn't play if he weakens the team
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he doesn't weaken the team we are just in a bad roll but it won't last for long. Pirlo has been an important part of our squad for years and it's just stupid to call him a hindrance
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pirlo is getting old
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Too old? He's 29, not 35!
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Too old? He's 29, not 35!
Unlike Ryan Giggs.. Pirlo has done alot for Milan, they won't let Him go.
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Unlike Ryan Giggs.. Pirlo has done alot for Milan, they won't let Him go.
Ryan Giggs has done loads for Manchester United
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There's 11 players on the pitch, not just one.
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I never said He didn't? Oh, my post doesn't look too good, I was talking about the age with Ryan Giggs, I'm not mental
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I never said He didn't? Oh, my post doesn't look too good, I was talking about the age with Ryan Giggs, I'm not mental
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He made 1 great pass to pato yesterday.... but he was horrible.....

I think its time for him to go... We have better players with pace like dinho & seedorf who can make more of an impact on the team.... & we need the 2 dm's because our backline is horrible.......

Zambrotta - Bonera - Maldini - Jank
Gattuso - Seedorf - Flamini
Kaka - Seedorf
Pato

should be the lineup....

the Italian fans dont want to here this, but we should really consider selling him to bring in money for a defender.......
Seedorf twice?

Sure, he's good, but he can't be at two places at the same time can he?
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Seedorf twice?

Sure, he's good, but he can't be at two places at the same time can he?
he doens't like Ronaldinho I guess.
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I think its just a coincidence... btw Seedorf has a brother playing in Eredivise
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mistake obviously its dinho right their.....
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But its no coincidence we struggle @ the begining of the season and lose both 2 games.... than when he goes down we win everygame without him..... when he comes back we lose again....

Its time for him to move on... And the Italians here think im stupid because i feel that way.... They want Milan to have 11 Italians on the team even if it means we wont win ****.....

They don't realize its not 2006 anymore and him & zambrotta are passed it........
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He has no legs & is a hugeee liability in defense....
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I think its just a coincidence... btw Seedorf has a brother playing in Eredivise
and a cousin in the jupiler league (2nd dutch league) ;-)
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Don't we have Seedorf's bro?? I remember seeing his name @ acmilan.com
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Pirlo is not a hindrance to Milan. He's done a lot for the team and he always creates chances/great passes every time he plays. What a silly article.
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This article is based on 4 games, and no one can say that ONE player was responsible for those poor results.
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