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[Johnnylfc]

Originally Posted by torres91

He has had two years to prove himself and he hasn't. I used to really like him and saw potential but he didn't do anything this season. He doesn't get much playing time so I'm sure he'd be happy to leave anyway.

He's only young and improving, it takes time for any player to adapt to a new country especially as he was so young, plus you said he doesn't get much playing time so he hasn't had much of a chance of proving himself.

His agent has also said something about him wanting to stay with Liverpool until he establishes himself in the first team and wins a trophy as has been said earlier in this thread, so how do you work out that he would be happy to leave?

[LFCtorresLFC]

Originally Posted by Johnnylfc

Why? If he would be happy as back up to Torres and we got him on a free it would be a good signing imo. It would leave us more money to spend on other areas of our squad that need to be improved.

Situation: Torres pulls a hamstring 3 months in to the season, out for 3 weeks. We look around and see Owen at the training ground, ready to step in.

So he starts next game as Striker, looks a little rusty, maybe once he gets a few games going he'll be fine. Nope...get's injured and our back-up is out too.

Suddenly Owen manages to recover from his injury just in time for the next England friendly, before returning to the sidelines on his return to liverpool.

He can't even play as a lone striker anymore, he use to be able to stretch defences but now as he doesn't have any pace and can't hold the ball up we would have to play him with a partner and change systems to accomodate him.

I'd rather play Babel, N'Gog or Kuyt lone striker than get Owen tbh. We don't owe him anything.

[Johnnylfc]

Originally Posted by LFCtorresLFC

Situation: Torres pulls a hamstring 3 months in to the season, out for 3 weeks. We look around and see Owen at the training ground, ready to step in.

So he starts next game as Striker, looks a little rusty, maybe once he gets a few games going he'll be fine. Nope...get's injured and our back-up is out too.

Suddenly Owen manages to recover from his injury just in time for the next England friendly, before returning to the sidelines on his return to liverpool.

He can't even play as a lone striker anymore, he use to be able to stretch defences but now as he doesn't have any pace and can't hold the ball up we would have to play him with a partner and change systems to accomodate him.

I'd rather play Babel, N'Gog or Kuyt lone striker than get Owen tbh. We don't owe him anything.

He's injury prone but I don't see why it would be so bad buying him when he wouldn't cost us anything and takes a lot of his chances. He's a better option than Tevez imho coz Tevez would cost us loads and wouldn't fit into our formation which would probably lead to him splitting up the Gerrard/Torres partnership which has worked so well for us.

Owen wouldn't be my first option but I think he could do well for us if he can stay injury free. And of course we don't owe him anything, if anything it's him that owes us.

[torres91]

How about Fernando Llorente? Haven't heard much about him, but i know he scored a total of 18 goals this season and is only 24. He would cost to much either.

[LFCtorresLFC]

Originally Posted by Johnnylfc

He's injury prone but I don't see why it would be so bad buying him when he wouldn't cost us anything and takes a lot of his chances. He's a better option than Tevez imho coz Tevez would cost us loads and wouldn't fit into our formation which would probably lead to him splitting up the Gerrard/Torres partnership which has worked so well for us.

Owen wouldn't be my first option but I think he could do well for us if he can stay injury free. And of course we don't owe him anything, if anything it's him that owes us.

Tevez wouldn't be a back-up for Torres though, so it's not really relevant comparing them.

[Johnnylfc]

Originally Posted by LFCtorresLFC

Tevez wouldn't be a back-up for Torres though, so it's not really relevant comparing them.

I'm just taking into account the strikers whom we have been linked with

Originally Posted by torres91

How about Fernando Llorente? Haven't heard much about him, but i know he scored a total of 18 goals this season and is only 24. He would cost to much either.

I've seen him a few times and he looks like he would be a great option for us. Would he settle as back up though? Assuming that's what would be for us. If he would it would be a good signing because he is a good goalscorer and when Torres is injured he would be able to get the goals for us.

[Ryan]

Nevermind. Seems it's another site republishing old lalalalae.

[torres91]

Originally Posted by Johnnylfc

I'm just taking into account the strikers whom we have been linked with

I've seen him a few times and he looks like he would be a great option for us. Would he settle as back up though? Assuming that's what would be for us. If he would it would be a good signing because he is a good goalscorer and when Torres is injured he would be able to get the goals for us.

Anyone know how much he would be? I think he would settle in well with 5 other Spanish players in the team and Fernando Torres to learn off. He recently broke into the Spanish national team and has already scored a goal against England, in only 3 appearences for his country.

I think he would be comfortable as backup as he would still play alot of games, as Torres is often taken off for a rest at the end of a game and we sometimes play 4-4-2, with two playing upfront. Fernando and Fernando would make a good partnership.

[Johnnylfc]

Real Betis winger-cum-striker Sergio García de la Fuente is up for grabs and the chasing pack last time he was available are interested again.

Liverpool, Spurs, West Ham and Stoke expressed their interest in the player, when his team at the time Real Zaragosa were relegated.

At the time, he made a €10m switch to Real Betis, who have now suffered the same fate (i.e. relegation) as Zaragosa.

The 25-year-old Spain international should be an asset to whichever club wins the race to sign him.

Liverpool appear to be in pole position.

Liverpool, Spurs, Hammers & Stoke battle for €10m star? - Fansfc

When I've watched him he's been quite good, not so sure it's true though

[Johnnylfc]

Originally Posted by torres91

Anyone know how much he would be? I think he would settle in well with 5 other Spanish players in the team and Fernando Torres to learn off. He recently broke into the Spanish national team and has already scored a goal against England, in only 3 appearences for his country.

I think he would be comfortable as backup as he would still play alot of games, as Torres is often taken off for a rest at the end of a game and we sometimes play 4-4-2, with two playing upfront. Fernando and Fernando would make a good partnership.

I'm not sure how much he would be, but I don't think he would cost a big amount. I watched the game where he scored against England, was a pretty good header aswell.

It probably would be a good partnership, but I think he would be back up so he doesn't break the Gerrard/Torres partnership. He's tall and good in the air and Torres is fast and they're both good finishers.

Plus, his full names Fernando Llorente Torres

[MaschPotato]

Originally Posted by Johnnylfc

Liverpool, Spurs, Hammers & Stoke battle for €10m star? - Fansfc

When I've watched him he's been quite good, not so sure it's true though

How unlcuky is that, Relegated twice with 2 different teams on the trot

[Super-manc]

Yay, Liverpool are trying to sign more average players

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Super-manc

Yay, Liverpool are trying to sign more average players

Rumours, damn you.

[Johnnylfc]

Originally Posted by MaschPotato

How unlcuky is that, Relegated twice with 2 different teams on the trot

Yeah Especially when both teams were not even expected to get relegated

[Dan]

Originally Posted by Super-manc

Yay, Liverpool are trying to sign more average players

Lavezzi, Silva, Villa, Johnson and Tevez are average?..


Anyway, I understand peoples concerns about Owen, but the main fact is, he is a free transfer.. If he gets injured along with Torres, we can play Kuyt, Babel, Ngog or Nemeth.. He is a very good player, and when he gets chances he takes them.. He scored 8 goals for a very average Newcastle team in the League this season, and that's with him being in and out of the team.. If he rests this summer, he could shake off the niggling injuries (which appears to be a groin injury more than anything), and have a pretty injury-free season..

He's avaliable on a free, and I would love to have the option of bringing Owen off the bench, as he is still a great player..

[LFCtorresLFC]

Originally Posted by Danthomas2005

Lavezzi, Silva, Villa, Johnson and Tevez are average?..


Anyway, I understand peoples concerns about Owen, but the main fact is, he is a free transfer.. If he gets injured along with Torres, we can play Kuyt, Babel, Ngog or Nemeth.. He is a very good player, and when he gets chances he takes them.. He scored 8 goals for a very average Newcastle team in the League this season, and that's with him being in and out of the team.. If he rests this summer, he could shake off the niggling injuries (which appears to be a groin injury more than anything), and have a pretty injury-free season..

He's avaliable on a free, and I would love to have the option of bringing Owen off the bench, as he is still a great player..

I'll address the last part first. Please tell me you aren't seriously suggesting Owen will ever be injury niggle free. He hasn't been free from small, regular injuries at any stage in his career...so an injury free season just isn't going to happen.

Also when comparing Babel, Nemeth and N'Gog with Owen the difference is also age.

If we see Babel as having a) a career with liverpool and b) a career as a striker(which is a big if considering rumours) then are we really going to destroy his only chance of getting regular action as a striker by bringing in a player who doesn't have much left in his career?

As for N'Gog and Nemeth, if they are going to improve to the level we want them they need games, Owen would stop that happening for very marginally better results.

[LFCtorresLFC]

Originally Posted by Super-manc

Yay, Liverpool are trying to sign more average players

Berbatov, Nani, Anderson?

[Dan]

Originally Posted by LFCtorresLFC

I'll address the last part first. Please tell me you aren't seriously suggesting Owen will ever be injury niggle free. He hasn't been free from small, regular injuries at any stage in his career...so an injury free season just isn't going to happen.

No I meant the groin injuries he gets now.. If he can rest up this summer, then he should remain free from those injuries, or at least have a lot less of them..

Also when comparing Babel, Nemeth and N'Gog with Owen the difference is also age.

If we see Babel as having a) a career with liverpool and b) a career as a striker(which is a big if considering rumours) then are we really going to destroy his only chance of getting regular action as a striker by bringing in a player who doesn't have much left in his career?

As for N'Gog and Nemeth, if they are going to improve to the level we want them they need games, Owen would stop that happening for very marginally better results.

I think Babel is going.. Which would leave Torres, Ngog, Nemeth, and possibly Kuyt.. Owen would go just ahead of Ngog, which would see both Ngog and Nemeth given the same amount of time as Ngog was given this year..

All I am saying, that although there is a risk that he could pick up injuries, he is avaliable on a free.. But that could happen to any player.. Even if he isn't as good as we hoped, we can always sell him on.. I would much rather see Owen come on a free than us spend £15m+ on another back-up striker.. Owen is a free, which would allow us to spend on other areas of the team..

[LFCtorresLFC]

Yes and what I'm saying is i'd rather save the wages and medical fees from signing Owen.

Plus the annoying media circus that comes with him.

"and Rafa has decided to leave Owen on the bench and play Torres upfront today, what a disgrace this man is".

Camera pans to Owen on the bench during a 0-0 draw "he would stop this from being a draw" then he comes on and misses a sitter.

[Scouser_Dave]

Originally Posted by LFCtorresLFC

Yes and what I'm saying is i'd rather save the wages and medical fees from signing Owen.

Plus the annoying media circus that comes with him.

"and Rafa has decided to leave Owen on the bench and play Torres upfront today, what a disgrace this man is".

Camera pans to Owen on the bench during a 0-0 draw "he would stop this from being a draw" then he comes on and misses a sitter.

Nail on the head there mate.

Would rather we signed Negredo,Llorente or Villa. If we can't get any of them then use Kuyt,Babel or N'Gog who are more than capable of doing a job for us.

[Fluffin]

Is it june or july the transfer window officially opens?

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Fluffin

Is it june or july the transfer window officially opens?

July, ends on the last day of August.

[Fluffin]

Great, so we've got a whole month of speculation before the business can do the talking.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Fluffin

Great, so we've got a whole month of speculation before the business can do the talking.

Yup Deals could be agreed and announced before-hand though. Hopefully with Parry leaving deals will be concluded a lot quicker aswell so we won't have to go through as much lalalala throughout the window.

[Fluffin]

Yeah I am looking forward to see how well Rafa handles himself in his first transfer window without Parry getting in the way. Should be interesting.