Liverpool FC - Page 267

LFC_Aaron21 · 09-10-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MaschPotato

Yeh i liked him too yet if he was still here i wouldnt want him to start tha match above Torres or Keane.

Exactly i didnt think he really suited the English style while at Anfield, and now he looks very promising in Spain and after his great season with Reacritivo last season he has now got his big move to a team that are building to be good enough to challenge for La Liga and be regulars in the Champions League!

Dan · 09-10-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sammeboy11

A club of Liverpool's stature cannot risk playing youth players, except for cup games and they don't come often enough. But we don't have as much pressure on us to succeed as much as you do, so can blood our youth players into the first team. Hence why we have an excellent and successful youth setup. That is why the big 4 have to buy the best from abroard, because they don't have time to groom players to perfection, so they buy it instead. Look at the FA Youth Cup final - Chelsea only had about 2 English players. We only had about 2 non-English players, and we still won.

That is the problem exactly.. If Rafa drops Torres or Gerrard and plays Spearing or Lindfield, and we lose, he'd be slated for it.. We can't afford to lose those games, as they can generate money for us, which we need at the moment..

Presonally I don't rate Lindfield much, he's been on loan at League 2 clubs and not really done much.. I hope he proves me wrong though..

@Shinobiflux, he's on-loan at Forest atm... Has an injury though.. He's one to watch though..

Scouser_Dave · 09-10-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinobiflux

Anderson looked quite tastey in the FA Youth Cup season before last, not seen him since. Out on loan now isn't he? Norwich or somewhere like that...

Nottingham Forest

Impressed with his performance and goals for swansea last year, he tore league 1 apart with his pace. Could be a good option on the left on right for the future if he keeps on playing like he has been

Anima Flux · 09-10-2008, 10:06 PM

Lucas: We Have Strength to Challange:

LUCAS: WE HAVE STRENGTH TO CHALLENGE
Paul Hassall 09 October 2008

Lucas Leiva is convinced Liverpool have enough strength-in-depth to challenge on all-fronts this season. The Brazilian midfielder feels the Reds have a much stronger squad than last year and accepts he must take his game to a higher level to earn a regular place in Rafael Benitez's starting XI.

"We did not win any trophies last season and we were all disappointed about that," he said.

"That is something we want to change this season and the squad is now stronger than it was so hopefully that will help us.

"If you look at last season we drew some games that we would have expected to win but we have started this season well and are picking up wins so that is positive.

"The squad is now much better which is good for the club because it means we all have to work really hard if we want to be in the team.

"For me, it is tough because we have so many good players in my position but hopefully I will get my chance and when I do I have to be ready."

LUCAS: WE HAVE STRENGTH TO CHALLENGE

suggs · 09-10-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Scouser_Dave

Spearing has been in the reserves/Youth team for about 4 years now and still hasn't played in any competitive game for us.

its a shame tbh, i think he's a great little battler, i dont want this but i can see him being sold to a championship club before too long

Anima Flux · 09-10-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Danthomas2005

@Shinobiflux, he's on-loan at Forest atm... Has an injury though.. He's one to watch though..

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Originally Posted by Scouser_Dave

Nottingham Forest

Impressed with his performance and goals for swansea last year, he tore league 1 apart with his pace. Could be a good option on the left on right for the future if he keeps on playing like he has been

Ahh Forest lol.

I hope he does come back and stays, rathar than staying on loan then eventually being sold...

Dan · 09-10-2008, 10:10 PM

I'll give Rafa credit though.. He has brought in young players and played them.. Insua, El Zhar, Hobbs, Pongolle, Nunez, Lucas etc.

Not all of them are in the first team yet, but look how long it took Wenger to build his team, patience is what we need, and with the young players we have, we can do really well..

MaschPotato · 09-10-2008, 10:11 PM

dont get me wrong, always good to have another scouser in the squad but Spearing is terrible

LFC_Aaron21 · 09-10-2008, 10:12 PM

Pacheco is definately one i would keep an eye on he looks to have a lot of talent and is still getting the goals in the reserves so far this season!

Dan · 09-10-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaschPotato

dont get me wrong, always good to have another scouser in the squad but Spearing is terrible

He's not played a competitive game yet..

Dan · 09-10-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron214LFC

Pacheco is definately one i would keep an eye on he looks to have a lot of talent and is still getting the goals in the reserves so far this season!

Pachecho hasn't scored yet..

MaschPotato · 09-10-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Danthomas2005

He's not played a competitive game yet..

Good

Scouser_Dave · 09-10-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by suggs

its a shame tbh, i think he's a great little battler, i dont want this but i can see him being sold to a championship club before too long

Our midfield is to strong to brake into. Guthrie got a couple of chances before being loan out then later sold to newcastle, so i cant see Jay changing that unless gary ablett can try him in the holding role which might be to big of an ask for Jay who is only a small lad.

LFC_Aaron21 · 09-10-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MaschPotato

dont get me wrong, always good to have another scouser in the squad but Spearing is terrible

Ive seen him a couple of times in pre season and in reserves matches but i don't think at this stage you can really say he is terrible!

MaschPotato · 09-10-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron214LFC

Ive seen him a couple of times in pre season and in reserves matches but i don't think at this stage you can really say he is terrible!

If we knew he was a star like Gerrard or Owen coming through the system he'd at least be on the bench

sammeboy · 09-10-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danthomas2005

I'll give Rafa credit though.. He has brought in young players and played them.. Insua, El Zhar, Hobbs, Pongolle, Nunez, Lucas etc.

Not all of them are in the first team yet, but look how long it took Wenger to build his team, patience is what we need, and with the young players we have, we can do really well..

Exactly my point. Only one of those is English, and most of Wenger's youth is bought too. So these brilliant, young players get bought by big clubs and left to 'rot' if you will in the reserves.

My solution: Introduce a clause in contracts of <20-year-old players that allows them to go back to the club they are bought from for a season or two. That way, they play in a comfortable environment, and allowed to progress their skills, in the same timespan that they would be in the reserves with no-one they knew.

Anima Flux · 09-10-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sammeboy11

Exactly my point. Only one of those is English, and most of Wenger's youth is bought too. So these brilliant, young players get bought by big clubs and left to 'rot' if you will in the reserves.

My solution: Introduce a clause in contracts of <20-year-old players that allows them to go back to the club they are bought from for a season or two. That way, they play in a comfortable environment, and allowed to progress their skills, in the same timespan that they would be in the reserves with no-one they knew.

Utd wanted to do this with Aaron Ramsey kind of, they wanted to buy him, then loan him back to Cardiff for this season, but he deciced to go to Arsenal and spend most of his time on the bench.

Scouser_Dave · 09-10-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MaschPotato

If we knew he was a star like Gerrard or Owen coming through the system he'd at least be on the bench

Lucas cant get on the bench so what hope does jay have. He could be a star given the chance IMO

Anima Flux · 09-10-2008, 10:18 PM

Just go to say, Dave, you had the 6,666 post in this thread lol.

EDIT: Actually I did. Oops.

LFC_Aaron21 · 09-10-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danthomas2005

Pachecho hasn't scored yet..

haha...Pacheco has scored against Hamilton, and 2 against Port vale and plently other good performances!!

Scouser_Dave · 09-10-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinobiflux

Just go to say, Dave, you had the 6,666 post in this thread lol.

Dan · 09-10-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sammeboy11

Exactly my point. Only one of those is English, and most of Wenger's youth is bought too. So these brilliant, young players get bought by big clubs and left to 'rot' if you will in the reserves.

My solution: Introduce a clause in contracts of <20-year-old players that allows them to go back to the club they are bought from for a season or two. That way, they play in a comfortable environment, and allowed to progress their skills, in the same timespan that they would be in the reserves with no-one they knew.

But if you go down further to out academy, there are many highly rated players that we have who are English.. Eccleston, Amoo, Pepper, Chamberlain etc.

Isn't your idea the same as loan deals?..

MaschPotato · 09-10-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shinobiflux

Just go to say, Dave, you had the 6,666 post in this thread lol.

He's going to die tomorrow

Scouser_Dave · 09-10-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MaschPotato

He's going to die tomorrow

Thanks mate

Dan · 09-10-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron214LFC

haha...Pacheco has scored against Hamilton, and 2 against Port vale and plently other good performances!!

Friendlies mate..

He's yet to score for the reserves in the domestic season..

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Anima Flux Elite Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wales Age: 22 Gender: Male Posts: 5,938	Lucas: We Have Strength to Challange: LUCAS: WE HAVE STRENGTH TO CHALLENGE Paul Hassall 09 October 2008 Lucas Leiva is convinced Liverpool have enough strength-in-depth to challenge on all-fronts this season. The Brazilian midfielder feels the Reds have a much stronger squad than last year and accepts he must take his game to a higher level to earn a regular place in Rafael Benitez's starting XI. "We did not win any trophies last season and we were all disappointed about that," he said. "That is something we want to change this season and the squad is now stronger than it was so hopefully that will help us. "If you look at last season we drew some games that we would have expected to win but we have started this season well and are picking up wins so that is positive. "The squad is now much better which is good for the club because it means we all have to work really hard if we want to be in the team. "For me, it is tough because we have so many good players in my position but hopefully I will get my chance and when I do I have to be ready." LUCAS: WE HAVE STRENGTH TO CHALLENGE __________________

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Dan EA Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England... Martin Skrtel does not sleep, he waits.. Age: 17 Gender: Male Posts: 12,644 Blog Entries: 2	I'll give Rafa credit though.. He has brought in young players and played them.. Insua, El Zhar, Hobbs, Pongolle, Nunez, Lucas etc. Not all of them are in the first team yet, but look how long it took Wenger to build his team, patience is what we need, and with the young players we have, we can do really well.. __________________

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Anima Flux Elite Join Date: May 2008 Location: Wales Age: 22 Gender: Male Posts: 5,938	Just go to say, Dave, you had the 6,666 post in this thread lol. EDIT: Actually I did. Oops. __________________

09-10-2008, 10:11 PM	#6658 (permalink)
MaschPotato EA Veteran Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 19 Gender: Male Posts: 15,457	dont get me wrong, always good to have another scouser in the squad but Spearing is terrible