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Old 19-07-2008, 12:28 AM   #2376 (permalink)
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van basten already said he's staying one more year and i think the price tag would turn off wenger.
My thoughts exactly...I thought MVB had already ripped the price tag off Klaas.

@ Nixo - I disagree with that starting XI, I'd rather line-up as (if everyone is fit),

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Sagna---Toure---Gallas---Clichy

Eboue-----Fabregas-----Nasri

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van basten already said he's staying one more year and i think the price tag would turn off wenger.
Actually Huntelaar said that Van Basten told him he thinks he should stay another year, but with the contract talks breaking down he is prime for a move because after this season he will have 1 year left and can teams interested can get him for next to nothing since they can just awit for his deal to expire.
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Look's like Hleb is gone. I want to see us sell Ade and sign a new striker. Huntelaar would be awesome since SAF said he's only going to be signing one player, and that player seems to be Berbatov. If they get Berbatov, we could be hot favourites to bag in Klaas.
Well I definitely think that Huntelaar is attainable since at last rumor he was only being priced at £20M and even though Wenger has never spent £20M on anyone I think he would because we have had scouts check on Huntelaar in the past and Wenger likes him as a player.

If Manchester United sign Berbatov they won't go after Huntelaar anymore this season or next because next season they are going ot have to break the bank to pay West Ham for Carlos Tevez if they plan on keeping him in the squad.
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My thoughts exactly...I thought MVB had already ripped the price tag off Klaas.

@ Nixo - I disagree with that starting XI, I'd rather line-up as (if everyone is fit),

Almunia

Sagna---Toure---Gallas---Clichy

Eboue-----Fabregas-----Nasri

Rosicky/Vela---------Van Persie

Adebayor/Bendtner

Rosicky and Vela have done shyte since they joined Arsenal. Why should they deserve a starting line-up spot instead of Walcott? I disagree with that 100 %. Vela has'nt proved shyte, neither has Rosicky, so why should we bench an in-form youngster whoes proven he has what it takes to be one of the best forwards in England?

If Ade gets sold, I would rip my hair off if i see Bendtner the alone striker because he cant play up-front by himself. He needs another striker with him (not CF, a ST). If Ade leaves, we need a Huntelaar or a David Villa. I definately would'nt want seeing Bendtner upfront for Arsenal because he's clearly not a 20+ goal's scorer.

I hope Nasri does'nt play LM for us next season because he's proven how wild he can be in the centre of the field. He's got one of the deadliest-spot on shots I've seen in the French Ligue and I think if he was kept as LM, it would prevent him from showing his full potential.

I wan't to see Van Persie on the left because he showed in the Euro's that even after not playing as a left winger for ages, he still has the skill to maintain that position.

So I would love to see Van Persie on the left, Nasri on the center, and please God, dont have Bendtner as the starting-lone striker for us next season.
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Rosicky and Vela have done shyte since they joined Arsenal. Why should they deserve a starting line-up spot instead of Walcott? I disagree with that 100 %. Vela has'nt proved shyte, neither has Rosicky, so why should we bench an in-form youngster whoes proven he has what it takes to be one of the best forwards in England?
Do you really disagree 100% with that...or are you only saying that because it's me plus it's more like 40% so do your math

Have you watched Vela? oh right, ofcourse...forgot you love to watch Osasuna aswell they must be your second favourite club.

Rosicky, fit, is an instant starter for me...especially over Theo Walcott who can barely control a ball in a premier league game let alone pass the ball. He is very inexperienced, and although I do root for him alot, he was 90% straight up terrible for Arsenal last season.

Vela is a good option. He knows how to play the big clubs, atleast in Spain, and isn't afraid to take risks...which might be his downfall at times. But he's much better than Walcott IMO alot of people will vouche for that.

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If Ade gets sold, I would rip my hair off if i see Bendtner the alone striker because he cant play up-front by himself. He needs another striker with him (not CF, a ST). If Ade leaves, we need a Huntelaar or a David Villa. I definately would'nt want seeing Bendtner upfront for Arsenal because he's clearly not a 20+ goal's scorer.


Buddy...David Villa would never goto Arsenal, lemme just tell you that now

...and if Adebayor is sold, I really don't see how players like Van Persie and Walcott would be able to cope upfront as lone striker. Atleast with Bendtner, he'd have a load of creativity behind him with RVP, Rosicky, Fabregas, Nasri, and Vela. Bendtner is not a supplier, he's a go-getter, and more so than any other option y'all have at your disposal.

Maybe if Eduardo wasn't injured...then we could work something out, but that's not the case atm.

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I hope Nasri does'nt play LM for us next season because he's proven how wild he can be in the centre of the field. He's got one of the deadliest-spot on shots I've seen in the French Ligue and I think if he was kept as LM, it would prevent him from showing his full potential.
I sure hope he does

Keep Nasri dual-roling on that left, with either him or Clichy making the runs on the left flank. Your intitial reaction is quite foolish, if you think that formation will keep Nasri neutral at LM, but rather he'd be supplier in a LAM/LW position depending on how far up the field Clichy & Robin is, and how well positioned Fabregas and Adebayor are.

I'd rather have Van Persie higher in attacking roles, than Samir Nasri. Plus Nasri is more naturally suited to play in the midfield than Robin, so why even play him further up and have RVP in the middle when you have Clichy making those runs? that Left side of the midfield will be scrambled.

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I wan't to see Van Persie on the left because he showed in the Euro's that even after not playing as a left winger for ages, he still has the skill to maintain that position.

So I would love to see Van Persie on the left, Nasri on the center, and please God, dont have Bendtner as the starting-lone striker for us next season.
Your left side of the formation will seriously be ripped apart by players like Ronaldo, Nani, Joe Cole, Babel, etc. if it looks like this:

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-----------Nasri(LAM)------------Walcott(RAM)-----------
---Van Persie(LWM)---Fabregas(CM)---Eboue(RM)------
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-----Clichy(LB)---
Clichy isn't a God at defending...he's a great full back don't get me wrong. But the premier league is the one place where a counter attack can be at it's most devestating effect, and especially if you have a Left Flank looking like that IMO.
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everytime Ronaldo usually plays against us hes nowhere because usually Clichy or before him Ashley Cole controled him, so im wouldnt be worried about the Left flank but id play this formation

------------------Almunia------------
---Sagna-----Gallas-----Toure----Clichy---
------------------Diaby-----------------
---Walcott------Fabregas--------Nasri---
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but in bigger matches sometimes use Eboue on the right in midfield to help defensively
and if Nasri is on the left then at least he can drift in field because Clichy can bomb forward as usual. and if we get more injuries to Van Persie then i reckon we'll see Walcott be used up front alot more.

id like to see Frings replace Flmaini but i doubt it will happen, but he expirenced and versatile and would fit straight in i reckon.
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When Ashley Cole was with Arsenal, he would flamboyantly (and suddenly) open his legs so that Ronaldo could run away and have a good laugh. Don't kid yourself there buddy, Ronaldo dominated A Hole when he was wearing the Gunner colours
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When Ashley Cole was with Arsenal, he would flamboyantly (and suddenly) open his legs so that Ronaldo could run away and have a good laugh. Don't kid yourself there buddy, Ronaldo dominated A Hole when he was wearing the Gunner colours
Ronaldo wouldnt even be at Arsenal VS Man Utd games and Cole dominated him in England Portugal matches too.
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I'm not sure which Crisitano Ronaldo you were watching, but I have NEVER seen him dominate Arsenal since he has been at Manchester United.
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Clichy likes to keep Ronaldo in his back pocket.

Any one watching the game? I just had a minute to turn it on (ATVO) and Arsenal were losing 1-0. But then Jay Simpson scored in about the 63rd minute to level it. But thats about all I will be able to watch today unfortunately.
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Rosicky, fit, is an instant starter for me...especially over Theo Walcott who can barely control a ball in a premier league game let alone pass the ball. He is very inexperienced, and although I do root for him alot, he was 90% straight up terrible for Arsenal last season.

Vela is a good option. He knows how to play the big clubs, atleast in Spain, and isn't afraid to take risks...which might be his downfall at times. But he's much better than Walcott IMO alot of people will vouche for that.
The reason I can't see Vela starting is because one Arsenal has already said he won't start so that ends that dream before it starts. Second he is unproven in the EPL and I from the limited action I saw of him for Osa he wasn't that impressive to me and that was with him playing right wing. As an ST where Arsene plans on playing him I can't see him doing anything against Terry, Rio, and the many other talented EPL CBs.

I'm not sure why you don't like Walcott because you never seem to have anything positive about him. Walcott can control the ball and has shown that on numerous occasions. He has made some terrible choices at times with forcing a run that should have been passed off, but that is more to do with experience than anything else. You are entitled to your opinion but Theo was not terrible for Arsenal last season, sorry.

The only people that will say Vela is better than Walcott are the blind and lalalalalalaed. Vela is garbage and will show how ineffective he is this season, but that is my opinion of course.

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Buddy...David Villa would never goto Arsenal, lemme just tell you that now
Hmmm then I wonder why he was quoted as saying he would love to join Arsenal. The only reason he has since renegged on his statement is because Juan Soler has repeated said that no teams have bothered making official bids for him. If Arsenal did make a bid for him, he would come trust that.

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Your left side of the formation will seriously be ripped apart by players like Ronaldo, Nani, Joe Cole, Babel, etc. if it looks like this:
Right because all of these players have ripped us apart recently. Nani, Cristiano and Ryan Babel have all be ineffective against Arsenal so I can't see why you would say they would all of a sudden rip us apart. In the losses to Liverpool and Manchester United this past season, none of those players had a major role in causing the loss.

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Clichy isn't a God at defending...he's a great full back don't get me wrong. But the premier league is the one place where a counter attack can be at it's most devestating effect, and especially if you have a Left Flank looking like that IMO.
Not a god but he is damn good at locking down his side and causing plenty of annoyance for opposing right sided players. Hleb was the worse defending midfielder on the planet and Nasri is a lot more sound than Hleb defensively.

At this point it isn't even a given that Nasri will be on the left because Van Persie could still be placed there to run as a forward which would be like Marc Overmars or Walcott on either side. If Nasri is placed there, in combination with Clichy our left side will be fine against other right sided players.
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These are still going to be our most effective line ups, but are dependant on Van Persie being used as a forward instead of a ST.

4-4-2
GK - Almunia
RB - Sagna
CB - Toure
CB - Gallas (C)
LB - Clichy

RF - Nasri
CDM - Diaby (but if rumors are true Alonso or Barry)
CM - Fabregas
LF - Van Persie

CF - Walcott (this is his future role for England and for Arsenal, in my opinion.)
ST - Adebayor

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GK - Almunia
RB - Sagna
CB - Toure
CB - (C)Gallas
LB - Clichy

RF/RM - Nasri
CM - Diaby/Denilson/Eboue (Alonso or Barry if bought); after some thought, I think Eboue could also play the holding role with great effect.
LF/LM - Van Persie
RAM - Walcott
LAM - Cesc

ST - Adebayor
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what was the result of your game? last i checked it was 1-1
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Do you really disagree 100% with that...or are you only saying that because it's me plus it's more like 40% so do your math
I 100% disagree with you with the fact that Vela deserves a starting line-up spot instead of Walcott... He has'nt proved shyte, you cant judge some kid whoes been playing in the spannish league. Spannish league and the Premier League are two different leagues...You do know that right?

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Have you watched Vela? oh right, ofcourse...forgot you love to watch Osasuna aswell they must be your second favourite club.
I admit have'nt watced him play, but some of my mates who are La-Liga fanatics claim he's nothing special. I stay intouch with them because i need to be up-to date with the rising gunners.

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Rosicky, fit, is an instant starter for me...especially over Theo Walcott who can barely control a ball in a premier league game let alone pass the ball. He is very inexperienced, and although I do root for him alot, he was 90% straight up terrible for Arsenal last season.
Rosicky fit is an instant starter? Are you on crack? One super-goal in the WC and he becomes one of the best MF's in the planet? Buddy please, you're over-rating Tomas. He's not that great, i would rather see Walcott over him anyday, any time.

Walcott was 90% terrible? Please dont post anymore lalalala in these forums. Im starting to think ChelseaBlueDCU is right when he said your one of the most 'lalalala-posters' in these forums. Walcott was a star for Arsenal and i think he was the best player for us for the second half of the season.

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Vela is a good option. He knows how to play the big clubs, atleast in Spain, and isn't afraid to take risks...which might be his downfall at times. But he's much better than Walcott IMO alot of people will vouche for that.
Yeah who would "vouche" for that? Probably Anti-English fans or some crazy Spannish fans. Only the blind would think Vela deserves a starting line-up spot, let alone instead of Walcott.



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Yeah, because he said that he would love to play for Arsenal right? What are you, his agent? I bet you £500,000 if Arsene made a high bid for him, he would become an instant gunner.

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...and if Adebayor is sold, I really don't see how players like Van Persie and Walcott would be able to cope upfront as lone striker. Atleast with Bendtner, he'd have a load of creativity behind him with RVP, Rosicky, Fabregas, Nasri, and Vela. Bendtner is not a supplier, he's a go-getter, and more so than any other option y'all have at your disposal.
If your talking about players when fit, i would rather have Eduardo instead of Bendtner by a million times. Eduardo is a way better striker than Bendtner. When it comes to creativity, Eduardo is 10x better than Bendtner.

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Maybe if Eduardo wasn't injured...then we could work something out, but that's not the case atm.
You just stated your opinionated Starting-XI when fit... So all the players are fit except for Eduardo? That does'nt make any sense, just like all your other posts.

Keep Nasri dual-roling on that left, with either him or Clichy making the runs on the left flank. Your intitial reaction is quite foolish, if you think that formation will keep Nasri neutral at LM, but rather he'd be supplier in a LAM/LW position depending on how far up the field Clichy & Robin is, and how well positioned Fabregas and Adebayor are.

Have you ever seen Samir play? Im 100% sure you have'nt... Nasri is a beast when he plays in the center, why would you take that away from him? If you play him in the left it will be limiting his tallent. Clichy makes his run up the flank, passes it back to RvP who then lays it out for Nasri who blasts the ball to the back of the net, thats how it would go...

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I'd rather have Van Persie higher in attacking roles, than Samir Nasri. Plus Nasri is more naturally suited to play in the midfield than Robin, so why even play him further up and have RVP in the middle when you have Clichy making those runs? that Left side of the midfield will be scrambled.
I said RvP would be a LWM, which has nothing to do with "playing in the middle" like you stated. You just try to find some ways to counter my posts wether it will sound like lalalala or not. Trust me mate, you better stick to talking about Porto because as far as what I've read what you've posted, you have no clue what your talking about.

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Clichy isn't a God at defending...he's a great full back don't get me wrong. But the premier league is the one place where a counter attack can be at it's most devestating effect, and especially if you have a Left Flank looking like that IMO.
Clichy isn't supposed to be a God at defending, he's a LB not a CB...
I hope I dont hurt your feelings but Clichy has destroyed the likes of Ronaldo and Babel many times... That's why he was the best LB in the PremierLeague last season...

Im done with you, I don't understand why I even wasted my time replying to you. You obviously feel that you know everything, when you dont. Mabe you know more about Porto than me, but don't post lalalala about Arsenal because Im tired of wasting my time replying back, well atleast dont direct it to me.
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i hope to see the 2 scorers against Barnet play some sort of role in the Carling Cup, Barazite and Jay Simpson, Barazite was unlucky when he came on against Blackburn, he scored a screamer last year against Barnet, and Jay Simpson is a quality young player who i hope features this year i think he was League 1 player of the year aswell, and he'll add more englishness to our team.

Rosicky when fully fit should start ahead of Walcott, he is better than Walcott on the right but Theo is young and is still learning really, Rosicky is a super player when fit and is underrated more than overrated.
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i hope to see the 2 scorers against Barnet play some sort of role in the Carling Cup, Barazite and Jay Simpson, Barazite was unlucky when he came on against Blackburn, he scored a screamer last year against Barnet, and Jay Simpson is a quality young player who i hope features this year i think he was League 1 player of the year aswell, and he'll add more englishness to our team.

Rosicky when fully fit should start ahead of Walcott, he is better than Walcott on the right but Theo is young and is still learning really, Rosicky is a super player when fit and is underrated more than overrated.
What has Rosicky done to earn a spot ahead of Walcott? You need to state facts before you make any such statements. As far as what I have seen, Rosicky has'nt done anything since he became a gunner. After he scored that goal in the WC It made a pretty good first impression if you ask me, but that was the only time he has impressed me. He's way over-rated if you ask me.
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Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger expects star striker Emmanuel Adebayor to still be a Gunner for the start of the new season.

Adebayor has been strongly linked with a summer move to Milan, although Arsenal have always maintained their desire to retain the Togo international.

Speaking after Arsenal's 2-1 pre-season friendly win over Barnet, Wenger stated he expects Adebayor to make his first appearance at training.

"Adebayor is under contract," Wenger told Sky Sports News. "We expect him to turn up on Monday and practice with us."

"Of course," he replied when asked if Adebayor will be with Arsenal at the start of the new Premier League season.

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Wenger has lost Alexander Hleb although the French tactician was anticipating his exit to Barcelona by admitting they planned on signing Samir Nasri as his replacement some time ago.

"He had an opportunity to leave. He's done three years. I'd loved him to stay but on the other hand he was in a strong position," he continued.

"We had to accept that and we anticipated that by bringing Nasri in. So that was planned for a long, long time ago."

Arsenal have snapped up Aaron Ramsey from Cardiff this summer and Wenger has confirmed he is looking to add to his squad prior to the transfer window closing.

He said: "Yes you can expect signings. I don't know where and how many, but we're in the market. If there's a good opportunity we'll take it."
good to hear there will more more signings
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I don't see how people rate Tomas so highly for us. The times I have seen him play, I have not been impressed. I do not think he deserves anything ahead of Theo. Theo showed his class last season and he looks good on the wings. I think Nasri on the right and Van P on the left would be idea and stick Theo in the hole and let him have some fun.

Tomas is been very inconsistent since he can't decide when to be health. One moment he is fine the next he is done for the seasons.
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I was thinking about something. I wonder why we have never tried running a 4-5-1, but instead of having the L/RAM, use L/RDM and run three forwards.

Just imagine:

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Sagna---------Toure-----------------Gallas----------Clichy


--------------Cesc-------------------Eboue-------------------

Walcott-------------------Nasri---------------- Van Persie


-----------------------Addebayor------------------------------
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Being teamed up again...why don't both of you just work together to answer my posts instead of saying practically the same things one after the other

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The reason I can't see Vela starting is because one Arsenal has already said he won't start so that ends that dream before it starts. Second he is unproven in the EPL and I from the limited action I saw of him for Osa he wasn't that impressive to me and that was with him playing right wing. As an ST where Arsene plans on playing him I can't see him doing anything against Terry, Rio, and the many other talented EPL CBs.
Ok fair enough, Arsene has spoken about this already. But this is MY OPINION lest us not forget. Vela was great for Osasuna, I have no idea what 'few' matches you did see but he was one of their best attacking players last season IMO and a young player with alot of flair capable of dealing damage on that counter. He isn't my first choice fit, I said Rosicky would be, but I'd rather have Vela over another player such as Theo Walcott.

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I'm not sure why you don't like Walcott because you never seem to have anything positive about him. Walcott can control the ball and has shown that on numerous occasions. He has made some terrible choices at times with forcing a run that should have been passed off, but that is more to do with experience than anything else. You are entitled to your opinion but Theo was not terrible for Arsenal last season, sorry.
When the real Arsenal fans were bashing the youngster in the games he played, saying "why did AW take off Hleb for Walcott, the kid can barely make a pass or control the ball lalala" I was there saying that he has great potential. I was there when people were debating about Gareth Bale vs Theo Walcott, saying that Theo has the talent to become a great forward in todays game if he works at it. I hardly say these things here ofcourse, because to be honest I think some Arsenal fans take things too seriously and just blindly disagree because of the person in context.

To be fair, and from a nuetral position where I love to watch Arsenal, and have so since the rise of the new millenium. Theo Walcott cannot control the ball as well as you say he can, he just simply cannot hold the ball and beat his man as many times as he fails. He also cannot pass, I can't remember one time where Theo Walcott put in a brilliant pass...let alone absolutely bomb it.

Theo was terrible for Arsenal last season, his run against Milan and one good league game (forgive me I forgot which one) doesn't justify the numerous times he has indeed messed up and rendered the Arsenal attack less efficient. I can understand when Arsenal fans criticize Theo, but when I do so, it doesn't mean you guys have to call blasphemy on me because I'm not as into Arsenal as you.

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The only people that will say Vela is better than Walcott are the blind and lalalalalalaed. Vela is garbage and will show how ineffective he is this season, but that is my opinion of course.
Good for you, I find out alot of EPL fans are extremely blind to other leagues. Ask a fan of any other league, or even a neutral, they will tell you that Carlos Vela has more experience playing in a league where every team has a chance of winning, more so than Walcott in the premier league.

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Hmmm then I wonder why he was quoted as saying he would love to join Arsenal. The only reason he has since renegged on his statement is because Juan Soler has repeated said that no teams have bothered making official bids for him. If Arsenal did make a bid for him, he would come trust that.
Could care less if he was quoted, I won't believe it for one second and any La Liga fan with common sense in his head would think David Villa would never goto Arsenal (period). You know how many players are quoted falsely these days? Just because it's one in particular with your club doesn't mean it's completely true and I like to think alot of players who are quoted as saying they would like to join Arsenal as being quoted falsely. Arsenal isn't as big a club anymore, and a blind person could see that.

I love Arsenal but they aren't as appealing as you think they are.

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Right because all of these players have ripped us apart recently. Nani, Cristiano and Ryan Babel have all be ineffective against Arsenal so I can't see why you would say they would all of a sudden rip us apart. In the losses to Liverpool and Manchester United this past season, none of those players had a major role in causing the loss.
Wasn't Nani the one playing around in the Arsenal match with the ball where Gallas and Flamini could barely strip him off it and had to foul him to make him stop? yeah that's right, it was, because Arsenal lost all hope when Nani put in that cross for Rooney to head it into the back of your net

Ronaldo ineffective? I believe he scored a goal against you guys and set up another. That's more effective than alot of your player have been against Man Utd I can tell you that

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Not a god but he is damn good at locking down his side and causing plenty of annoyance for opposing right sided players. Hleb was the worse defending midfielder on the planet and Nasri is a lot more sound than Hleb defensively.
Indeed. I agree, Clichy is a great defender...but Arsenal fans tend to exaggerate the man a bit much, funny how he didn't make the French NT. Same can be said for Bakary Sagna

Wonderful defenders, they can hold their own...but far, far from being up their with the rest of the World Class defenders IMHO.

Hleb was bad at defending, reason why I'd rather put Nasri in LM than Van Persie like your dopie friend said. Clichy is good, but he can't control that left flank all by himself

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At this point it isn't even a given that Nasri will be on the left because Van Persie could still be placed there to run as a forward which would be like Marc Overmars or Walcott on either side. If Nasri is placed there, in combination with Clichy our left side will be fine against other right sided players.
I agree with this, and is pretty much what I have been saying. Apart from Van Persie, I really think he can excel as a wide-forward drifting in.
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I admit have'nt watced him play, but some of my mates who are La-Liga fanatics claim he's nothing special. I stay intouch with them because i need to be up-to date with the rising gunners.
That's nice. I am telling you right now, Carlos Vela is better than Theo Walcott. If you want Walcott to start go ahead, he has great potential, but so far he's shown the majority of the time that he lacks the nerve and consistancy to play in a top league, while Vela has shown that he can start for a club who finished 4th in the league a year prior and be consistant enough to help them climb out of relegation.

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Rosicky fit is an instant starter? Are you on crack? One super-goal in the WC and he becomes one of the best MF's in the planet? Buddy please, you're over-rating Tomas. He's not that great, i would rather see Walcott over him anyday, any time.
when did I ever bring up his goal in the world cup? do you think that's the man's definition these days? you seriously need to watch players more because Rosicky is a great player who is capable of starting in pretty much any team in the world when fit.

...oh right, Arsenal play him in that winger role that's definitely gonna make him better.

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Walcott was 90% terrible? Please dont post anymore lalalala in these forums. Im starting to think ChelseaBlueDCU is right when he said your one of the most 'lalalala-posters' in these forums. Walcott was a star for Arsenal and i think he was the best player for us for the second half of the season.
Good, be like him and put my name in your sig. Makes you a lalalala like him if anything

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Yeah who would "vouche" for that? Probably Anti-English fans or some crazy Spannish fans. Only the blind would think Vela deserves a starting line-up spot, let alone instead of Walcott.
You do know how much more biased EPL fans are compared to Serie A and La Liga fans right? Don't really need to follow up on that, EPL fans tend to exaggerate their league beyond what it really is.

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Yeah, because he said that he would love to play for Arsenal right? What are you, his agent? I bet you £500,000 if Arsene made a high bid for him, he would become an instant gunner.
Not high enough for David Villa

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If your talking about players when fit, i would rather have Eduardo instead of Bendtner by a million times. Eduardo is a way better striker than Bendtner. When it comes to creativity, Eduardo is 10x better than Bendtner.

You just stated your opinionated Starting-XI when fit... So all the players are fit except for Eduardo? That does'nt make any sense, just like all your other posts.
Eduardo is out with a serious injury you idiot. There is no way in hell he would be fit by the start of the season who the hell would mention him in their starting XI for 08/09?

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Have you ever seen Samir play? Im 100% sure you have'nt... Nasri is a beast when he plays in the center, why would you take that away from him? If you play him in the left it will be limiting his tallent. Clichy makes his run up the flank, passes it back to RvP who then lays it out for Nasri who blasts the ball to the back of the net, thats how it would go...
Yeah I've seen Nasri do that all the time for France and Marseille (if you don't get it, I'm being sarcastic right there )

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I said RvP would be a LWM, which has nothing to do with "playing in the middle" like you stated. You just try to find some ways to counter my posts wether it will sound like lalalala or not. Trust me mate, you better stick to talking about Porto because as far as what I've read what you've posted, you have no clue what your talking about.
Yeah, alot of people resort to saying that when they can't handle the truth or when their losing...words of irony

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Clichy isn't supposed to be a God at defending, he's a LB not a CB...
I hope I dont hurt your feelings but Clichy has destroyed the likes of Ronaldo and Babel many times... That's why he was the best LB in the PremierLeague last season...
the best LB in the prem can't even get a starting spot for his country, let alone be a runner up for it.

Abidal > Evra > Clichy was the line for France. No way Clichy is better than Evra buddy.

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Im done with you, I don't understand why I even wasted my time replying to you. You obviously feel that you know everything, when you dont. Mabe you know more about Porto than me, but don't post lalalala about Arsenal because Im tired of wasting my time replying back, well atleast dont direct it to me.
It's an opinion, not everyone is the same. Life lesson mate, take a gander beyond your delussion if you can. There is a world outside of Arsenal and the English Premier League.
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Well I don't agree with a lot of what you said, but I am too tired right now to argue so I am just going to let it be.
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