Arsenal FC Thread

[DBond5]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Unless Theo works on his through balls it would be pointless because he isn't great at that yet. He can do the long passes and short passes, but his through balls are eith good or horrible form what I have watched of him. Once he gets those down then I think Theo is a lock to be a great RF/RW if Arsene chooses to use him in that capacity.

After he got injured again last season I started wanting him to be tossed out to the LF but it never happened, then I hoped it would happen the next season and still nothing so when this season came I didn't have much hope for it, but after seeing him in the Euros, I hope Arsene finally will put him out there becasue he is truly gifted and would be deadly for us. If Robin is used in that role it would be the first time since Marc Overmars that we will have had a true winger/forward that can score and play interior attack.

Ye fair point.

VP would also switch wings during the Euros and still be deadly by cutting in from the right, he's a natural out wide, let's just hope Arsene can see this.

[chemicalrubber]

Originally Posted by DBond5

Ye fair point.

VP would also switch wings during the Euros and still be deadly by cutting in from the right, he's a natural out wide, let's just hope Arsene can see this.

Nasri too. Maybe:

---------Almunia

Sagna Toure Gallas Clichy

----Rosicky Fab Diaby
-----v. Persie* Nasri*
-----------Ade**

*or Walcott
**or his replacement

[DBond5]

Think everyone agrees with me that everyone can't wait for the new season to get here! Only problem is we already know Rosicky will be injured for the start of the season but let's hope VP stays fit

[Thade2532]

id like to see Walcott up front this season more, he could do some seriuous damage if Cesc plays in the through balls as he'd beat any defender for pace. and at the moment the best player we have to replace Flamini that we already have is Diaby, he is very similar to Vieira and i reckon next year he'll have a good season

[elementkid1021]

i'd like to see arsenal play
----------almunia
sagna-toure-gallas-clichy
rosicky--fabregas--nasri
walcott-adebayor-v. persie

kinda similar to what chelsea used under jose.

[DBond5]

Can't see Arsene adapting to the 4-3-3 formation, though could be used. And again, Rosicky won't be fit for the start of the season! No doubt most of the season.

[Thade2532]

if we played that formation we wouldnt have a holder

[elementkid1021]

Originally Posted by Thade2532

if we played that formation we wouldnt have a holder

yeah but i think fabregas could control the midfield.

[Scuba Steve]

That not his job though. And that is definitely not what he is best at.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by DBond5

Think everyone agrees with me that everyone can't wait for the new season to get here! Only problem is we already know Rosicky will be injured for the start of the season but let's hope VP stays fit

Well if he is played as a ST you can forget about him staying healthy. When Robin played in the Eredivise as a forward he wasn't injury prone, but once he arrived at Arsenal and was deployed as a fulltime ST that is when his injury woes started. As long as he is used as a forward he will remain healthy because he will not have to face the physicality of the interior.

I just hope Wenger sees this finally.

[AriseForLife]

The 4-3-3 formation would not work for Arsenal. We would be much better off in the modified 4-4-2 we run currently or the 4-5-1 which I feel is our best formation because it opens the field.

Cesc isn't a midfield boss like a Xavi or Gerrard. He isn't the fastest player but he is still suited to attacking and not playing a holding role. If you stuck him in the middle of the field in the 4-3-3 you would severely limiting his skills and our style of play.

[AriseForLife]

WENGER FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS HOLY, BUY MATHIEU DEBUCHY FROM LILLE.

Sorry just seeing if it would work.

[Scuba Steve]

I think that will help him realize.

[jpthornton66]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

In a perfect world I would like to see the following:

GK - Almunia
RB - Sagna
CB - Toure
CB - Gallas (C)
LB - Clichy

RF - Nasri
CDM - Diaby (but if rumors are true Alonso or Barry)
CM - Fabregas
LF - Van Persie

CF - Walcott
ST - Adebayor

I don't know...do you really think Diaby is suited to play in CDM role?

I personally don't see him as a defensive midfielder...perhaps more of a CM...he seems to like going forward and he's got a wonderful shot with either leg. Its just, as I've watched him more closely over the past year & a half...i've noticed that he's not the cleanliest of tacklers. He doesn't shy away from strong challenges, but he just seems ackward at times when he doesn't have the ball at his feet. And he's definitely not worthy of all the Viera comparisons being throw his way...not yet anyhow. But beyond this I think his passing is a little weak at times...and he appears to get dispossed more frequently than any other player on the team (though Walcott and Eboue give him competition in this department). And the thing that bugs me the most is that Diaby rarely ever uses his large body to shield off defenders...something that Gilberto was exceptional at .

So I guess what i'm saying is that Diaby is a wonderfully gifted young player who has plenty of potential...but I think he needs lots of work to develop into a worthy defensive midfielder....and given all the Attacking prowess you've included in the above lineup...i'd rather see a solid defensive midfielder like Song (naturally Alonso or Barry would be better options).

[Matieo10]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

You are entitled to your opinion on each of these matters, but you already know that I don't value it either way.

Wow.

I don't know if you remember, but a couple of years back when you were under the Gowill username we had a confrontation in this forum and it ended nasty as usual. Afterwards (maybe 6 minutes) you posted a thread in the Fifa Forum asking something about the game, I went in and answered your question like nothing had ever happened between us before. You then commended me on not taking anything seriously and that I showed a great deal of dignity for answering your question (or something similar to that ).

If someone gives me an opinion that comes off as a genuine statement, I'll answer back. I don't sit on my effin' highhorse and become oblivious to everyone you don't like because you have a superiority complex

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by Matieo10

Wow.

I don't know if you remember, but a couple of years back when you were under the Gowill username we had a confrontation in this forum and it ended nasty as usual. Afterwards (maybe 6 minutes) you posted a thread in the Fifa Forum asking something about the game, I went in and answered your question like nothing had ever happened between us before. You then commended me on not taking anything seriously and that I showed a great deal of dignity for answering your question (or something similar to that ).

If someone gives me an opinion that comes off as a genuine statement, I'll answer back. I don't sit on my effin' highhorse and become oblivious to everyone you don't like because you have a superiority complex

I'm not saying I don't value anything you say and to be honest even though you and I disagree on a lot I do enjoy talking the game with you.

My comment is geared toward the comment about Walcott. I don't think its correct so it holds no value to me. I think Walcott can pass, you don't, we don't agree and that is fine with me.

The one and only issue I have with you overall is that when someone doesn't agree with you, your first reply to them is an insult and you have done that on many occasions. Perfect example is the thread about Ronaldo being average at Milan and you came in and quoted and said something slick, I don't recall your exact words, but you could have said something completely different and still got your point across.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by jpthornton66

I don't know...do you really think Diaby is suited to play in CDM role?

I personally don't see him as a defensive midfielder...perhaps more of a CM...he seems to like going forward and he's got a wonderful shot with either leg. Its just, as I've watched him more closely over the past year & a half...i've noticed that he's not the cleanliest of tacklers. He doesn't shy away from strong challenges, but he just seems ackward at times when he doesn't have the ball at his feet. And he's definitely not worthy of all the Viera comparisons being throw his way...not yet anyhow. But beyond this I think his passing is a little weak at times...and he appears to get dispossed more frequently than any other player on the team (though Walcott and Eboue give him competition in this department). And the thing that bugs me the most is that Diaby rarely ever uses his large body to shield off defenders...something that Gilberto was exceptional at .

So I guess what i'm saying is that Diaby is a wonderfully gifted young player who has plenty of potential...but I think he needs lots of work to develop into a worthy defensive midfielder....and given all the Attacking prowess you've included in the above lineup...i'd rather see a solid defensive midfielder like Song (naturally Alonso or Barry would be better options).

In all honesty I would rather see Gilberto there, but since that isn't going to happen my next choice would be Denilson, but he still very young and inexperienced and I don't think he is ready for immediate first team play especially in an important role like the holding spot.

The reason I put Diaby there is because I think he could be molded into a defensive minded midfielder instead of being placed out on the wings where he is not that effective in my opinion. I like his attack mindedness, but I think his physical build is just made for being a holding midfielder.

I hope we can snatch up Xabi Alonso because the pairing of the two Spaniards would just be nasty and it Xabi would be a great mentor for someone like Denilson and even show Cesc a thing or two about bossing the middle because even though Cesc is box to box he doesn't have the boss mentality that CMs like Keane, Gerrard, or Vieira, but he is very close.

[Matieo10]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Perfect example is the thread about Ronaldo being average at Milan and you came in and quoted and said something slick, I don't recall your exact words, but you could have said something completely different and still got your point across.

I thought you were talking about Internazionale, so my bad on that part

[elementkid1021]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

In all honesty I would rather see Gilberto there, but since that isn't going to happen my next choice would be Denilson, but he still very young and inexperienced and I don't think he is ready for immediate first team play especially in an important role like the holding spot.

The reason I put Diaby there is because I think he could be molded into a defensive minded midfielder instead of being placed out on the wings where he is not that effective in my opinion. I like his attack mindedness, but I think his physical build is just made for being a holding midfielder.

I hope we can snatch up Xabi Alonso because the pairing of the two Spaniards would just be nasty and it Xabi would be a great mentor for someone like Denilson and even show Cesc a thing or two about bossing the middle because even though Cesc is box to box he doesn't have the boss mentality that CMs like Keane, Gerrard, or Vieira, but he is very close.

i think denilson would be a disaster there at this point in his career and i'd think wenger would go out and get a holding mid.

[Timh222]

only if Robin van Hurt-sie can stay healthy!

I really think we need to bring in another solid midfielder, someone who can win balls. Like Flamini. I really think we are going to miss him more than anyone else who is leaving.

See ya Hleb... You can go NOT score goals at Barca!

Yet to see about Adebayor, he will have a lot of ****-kissing to do to the fans and the club if he ends up staying. Not looking promising for him to move. Ha Ha!!

IF Ade goes, then we will also need to go get another striker. I just don't think RVP, Bendtner, and a 50% Eduardo will get us there. David Villa please!!!

[elementkid1021]

barca didn't sigh helb to score goals if they did they would have gone after another forward. he'll struggle to make the first team unless somebody gets hurt.

i would hope for arsenal's sake they would get rid of bentner. he is to slow and lazy and didn't see to work at all with arsenal. you think walcott could play up top?

[AriseForLife]

Nicklas is class and we will not be getting rid of him considering he just signed a new deal. He is not slow or lazy at all and in his limited time on the field he has a good strike rate and works very hard when he plays. He is young and shows great promise.

As for Adebayor, I still hold on to the hope that he will be sold eventually, if not this summer then possibly the next because the profit margin on him is just too good to pass up and if he nets another 25 or more goals this season then his price will skyrocket.

[thisone326]

i don;t know why, besides money, anyone wants to get rid of sheyi. Arsene has admitted that they have the money this summer for big spending as it is, and that currently the books are balanced. besides cesc, he's the next person on the team i want to still have a starting spot next season.

i say wait and let him have another great season, because he will...and maybe then sell him

[Nixo10]

Look's like Hleb is gone. I want to see us sell Ade and sign a new striker. Huntelaar would be awesome since SAF said he's only going to be signing one player, and that player seems to be Berbatov. If they get Berbatov, we could be hot favourites to bag in Klaas. If we do get Klaas I can see us in a 4-5-1 formation. I would love to see our squad as:

-----------------------Huntelaar(ST)----------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------
-----------Nasri(LAM)------------Walcott(RAM)-----------
---Van Persie(LWM)---Fabregas(CM)---Eboue(RM)------
------------------------------------------------------------
-----Clichy(LB)---Toure(CB)---Gallas(CB)---Sagna(RB)--
-----------------------------------------------------------
--------------------Almunia(GK)--------------------------

[elementkid1021]

van basten already said he's staying one more year and i think the price tag would turn off wenger.