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Old 03-10-2007, 12:56 PM   #101 (permalink)
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formation talk is pointless


Edit: yeah cause at 4-4-2 you've been thrilling to watch this season
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:58 PM   #102 (permalink)
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it is when u r discussing it the way they r NOT when u r discusing what formation ur team should play



EDIT: to ur edit, yeah but we cant play awesome every game and if we were playin 4-3-3 right now we would draw 0-0 rather then win 1-0. plus we do play some good football in periods, its just not consistent yet
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Ok but that is still not a 4-3-3 with wingers. The 4-3-3 doesn't use wingers. The reason the 4-3-3 uses a RM and LM is because they are expected to play more defense with a lack of a 4th midfielder and wingers typically DO NOT play any defense whatsoever, a la Cristiano Ronaldo, Arjen Robben, Vicente, Pavel Nedved (at Lazio and early Juventus), etcetera.

If it was a 4-5-1 the wingers would be set back along the midfielders:
Maka
Duff Essien Lampard Robben

But they're not they are advanced further up the pitch.
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it is when u r discussing it the way they r NOT when u r discusing what formation ur team should play



EDIT: to ur edit, yeah but we cant play awesome every game and if we were playin 4-3-3 right now we would draw 0-0 rather then win 1-0. plus we do play some good football in periods, its just not consistent yet
Errr excuse me, but whenever we did similar, everyone slated us for being a boring team... funny how it changes when it's Utd though right?
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Errr excuse me, but whenever we did similar, everyone slated us for being a boring team... funny how it changes when it's Utd though right?
yeah but every1 knows we can play entertaining football where as chelsea have never done

chelsea are always boring and UTD are entertaining when on form. atm we r not
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yeah but every1 knows we can play entertaining football where as chelsea have never done

chelsea are always boring and UTD are entertaining when on form. atm we r not
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Haven't read the argument here, but saw our formation mentioned...

Our formation WAS a 4-1-2-2-1 formation with Maka (Maybe a 4-3-2-1 when Parker was fit). I take it some people are getting all their formations off of the FIFA games?
Your buddy Supa seems to be doing it...I don't blame him though, he's... In America!!

(is that the smallest fonts go now?...they did'nt even bother did they)

This is a Fifa forums after all...and not a Futebol one, you might be right
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:23 AM   #109 (permalink)
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Don't be hatin on the Red White and Blue.
So we have Sunderland on Sunday.I think we have pretty good chances, but it won't be a walk in the park.Will Rosicky be back by then?
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Your buddy Supa seems to be doing it...I don't blame him though, he's... In America!!

(is that the smallest fonts go now?...they did'nt even bother did they)

This is a Fifa forums after all...and not a Futebol one, you might be right


What the hell are you talking about?

4-1-2-2-1 is nowhere near a FIFA game.


Canada though. Much closer to England
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Ive heard the same of Scotland England and Wales in the same order
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If it was a 4-5-1 the wingers would be set back along the midfielders:
Maka
Duff Essien Lampard Robben

But they're not they are advanced further up the pitch.
A winger doesn't have to be in the midfielder to be considered a winger. Winger just indicates field position and tendency, nothing more. The 4-5-1 and the 4-3-3 don't use wingers thats not debatable, it's fact. No need to keep going round and round about this.
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Old 04-10-2007, 07:22 PM   #114 (permalink)
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Sunderland are a side that should never be underestimated. Though we have shown that we can demolish teams in the bottom 10 of the league table doesnt mean that we should just look at the game as an easy 3 point fixture. Im guessing Arsene might play most of the players he used in the match against newcastle in the CC. A formation i would like to use, and like to see would be a simple 4-4-1-1

-----------Lehmann---------------
Sagna--Sanderos--Toure--Clichy---

Traore---Fabregas-Denilson--Walcott

----Bendtner----------------------
---------------Adebayor-----------

With this formation i see us winning 2-0 or 3-0, more likely 3-0 though.
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:26 PM   #115 (permalink)
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I think its gonna be a win for Arsenal but not an easy one
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A winger doesn't have to be in the midfielder to be considered a winger. Winger just indicates field position and tendency, nothing more. The 4-5-1 and the 4-3-3 don't use wingers thats not debatable, it's fact. No need to keep going round and round about this.

Fact to who?


Weve played 4-3-3 for 3 years with WINGERS

Damien Duff
Joe Cole
Arjen Robben
Florent Malouda
Shawn Wright-Phillips
Salomon Kalou

play(ed) as wingers in our 4-3-3 system, when that system is employed.


ANd a 4-5-1 without wingers? You want 5 central mids in there?
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:04 PM   #117 (permalink)
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someone set up a tactics thread please
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Don't worry this thread is a waste anyway
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:48 PM   #119 (permalink)
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Then I suggest you get the F out before you get knocked the F out...

Seriously stop playing Fifa...play some futebol. 4-3-3 has never been a winger formation unless you utalize the LWM-RWM-ST/CF as the last 3 in the 4-3-3. Not the midfield.
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I dont own any video game systems, how would I play FIFA? You are recidulous.

Youre agreeing with me as well! My point was that the last 3 in a 4-3-3 inlcude 2 wingers! The middle 3 are all central midfielders. Go Will was trying to argue that there is no such formation, despite Chelsea using it for 3 years now.

Thank you for unintentionally backing up my point
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Guys, I appreciate the battle of wits, but please move it elsewhere where it can be on topic.And the Almighty Arsenal thread is never a waste.Maybe you should look at the table before saying anything else.
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Ive reviewed the table, and concluded that Arsenal are in fact a waste.
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Ive reviewed the table, and concluded that Arsenal are in fact a waste.
They are a waste because we are number one both in the EPL and top of their Group in the CL.I completely understand your logic.
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There's no logic I'm just saying nonsensical thingsa about Arsenal and you are taking me seriously.
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There's no logic I'm just saying nonsensical thingsa about Arsenal and you are taking me seriously.
who said I can't play the game too?
but yea, I'm too used to truly lalalalalalaed people seriously posting things as nonsensical and dumb as that.
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