Arsenal FC Thread

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by Stefanbafc

Chamakh is valued at aprox £7M while Huntelaar is valued at £17M. How would they cost the same amount of money then? Chamakh is also in his final year of his contract, so that gives Bordeaux a bad place to be when trying to get the most for him. Huntelaar was signed in january, and has probably 3-4 years left on his contract, Real Madrid wants to cash in but he will cost atleast £10M more then Chamakh.

True we are not linked with Cana anymore, and Inler is not leaving Udinese anyway, but as you're saying we would probably afford a defensive midfielder no matter who we buy. I'm just crossing my fingers that Wenger has one in his mind that he will to bring in during the next weeks.

Chamakh is not valued at £7M so I'm not sure where you got that information from. Read the bolded part of the quote below which states the Chairman of the club isn't letting him join for £8.4M which is still more than the amount you say he is valued at.

Originally Posted by Setanta

Marouane Chamakh still hopes to complete a dream move to The Premier League.

Bordeaux striker Chamakh, who has been linked to two London clubs in Arsenal and Fulham, is waiting in the wings to make the step to Premier League football.

Les Girondins chairman Jean-Louis Triaud has stated that the Morocco international ‘won’t join Arsenal for €10 million (£8.4m)’, and he still hopes to keep the fans’ favourite next year.

For his part, Chamakh has not changed his mind and the athletic player has publicly asked his employers not to price him out of the market.

“If an offer is interesting for everyone, then I hope that my directors will be comprehensive,” he told Le Parisien.

Originally Posted by st3adman

Looks like if we are going to replace Adebayor it will be Chamakh and not Huntelaar. He says if he were to play for Arsenal his dream would be realised so all we have to do is make a bid.

Based on what? Arsene Wenger has already been quoted as saying he isn't in any hurry to replace Adebayor so that doesn't mean we are likely to sign Chamakh or Huntelaar. He said he is a player we are watching, which is the company line he has used for years. He said he is a possibility, it doesn't say he is our only target so he has as good a chance to join us as anyone else.

Meanwhile, Arsene Wenger says he has no plans to replace Adebayor after agreeing to sell him to Manchester City.

''We're not on the verge of signing anybody but I'm able to spend the money if we find the right players,'' he said. ''We're not in a hurry because we have a big squad. We'll see in pre-season if we need to make any additions.

''If we need to add something we will. Chamakh is one of the players we've followed and if we need to go for a striker he's a possibility. We're keeping an eye on him.

''We have Rosicky and Eduardo back so we've lost a big striker but have gained two offensive players who were absent last season. We also have Nicklas Bendtner, Andrey Arshavin, Robin van Persie and Theo Walcott who can play striker. We have top players we can use as strikers.''

Wenger understands Adebayor's desire to leave the Emirates and admitted he was joining a growing force in the Premier League.

''We'll miss him - he's a great player. I'm sure he'll give something special to Man City,'' he said. ''I don't believe that last season he got enough support and I think that played a part in his mind.

''There was a bit of resentment you could feel through last summer. I believe he wanted to do well but didn't have the confidence of the year before. If you consider the money we paid for him it was good business, but that was not our main target.

''It's a good opportunity for him because City could be a big force in the coming years. Carlos Tevez, Robinho and Gareth Barry have done it. Man City will be a threat to the top teams.''

[st3adman]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Based on what? Arsene Wenger has already been quoted as saying he isn't in any hurry to replace Adebayor so that doesn't mean we are likely to sign Chamakh or Huntelaar. He said he is a player we are watching, which is the company line he has used for years. He said he is a possibility, it doesn't say he is our only target so he has as good a chance to join us as anyone else.

If you read what I said again, I said all we have to do is put in a bid and we will most probably get him, because he stated in the quotes i posted that it would be his dream to play for us. Im not saying hes the only striker we are looking at all I said was if we were going to sign a replacement, at the moment he looks most likely, and has already expressed his desire to play for the club.

On a different subject has anyone got a link to the Arsenal highlights, would love to see Barazite's goal, heard it was good.

[ViVaRooney]

so who is upset adebayor is leaving?

[st3adman]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

so who is upset adebayor is leaving?

Certainly not me, I say thank you for all the goals adebayor but in the end you showed you didnt want to play for us and left because of your greed.
If Wenger does bring in Huntelaar which is who i would prefer then I would be more than happy with this deal, then look to bring in that holding midfielder in which we desperatly need (hopefully toulalan!).

[Stefanbafc]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Chamakh is not valued at £7M so I'm not sure where you got that information from. Read the bolded part of the quote below which states the Chairman of the club isn't letting him join for £8.4M which is still more than the amount you say he is valued at.

Seeing as we haven't even made a bid for Chamakh it's understandable that they wouldn't let him go to us :P but okey, so let's say the price range for Chamakh is £7-10M then, but Huntelaar is still at £17M+ so I can't see how the would cost the same as you said earlier.

But anyway, atleast something good happened today/yesterday. Rosicky's back and Adebayor is gone. Hooray!

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

so who is upset adebayor is leaving?

Lol, don't make me laugh.

Originally Posted by Stefanbafc

Seeing as we haven't even made a bid for Chamakh it's understandable that they wouldn't let him go to us :P but okey, so let's say the price range for Chamakh is £7-10M then, but Huntelaar is still at £17M+ so I can't see how the would cost the same as you said earlier.

But anyway, atleast something good happened today/yesterday. Rosicky's back and Adebayor is gone. Hooray!

You're missing the point. You are aiming at the absolute bottom number for his valuation. Maroune is rated at least £13.5M at least.

I will wait on the good news of Rosicky until he actually stays healthy for more than 30 seconds. If he is still fit come the start of the season then I will be happy.

[ViVaRooney]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Lol, don't make me laugh.


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it was an honest question cause i feel no arsenal fan should be upset about it

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by st3adman

Certainly not me, I say thank you for all the goals adebayor but in the end you showed you didnt want to play for us and left because of your greed.
If Wenger does bring in Huntelaar which is who i would prefer then I would be more than happy with this deal, then look to bring in that holding midfielder in which we desperatly need (hopefully toulalan!).

Exactly. Also when I think about it, he scored 62 goals, but I think he had as many clear misses also. Never the less it was another bit of wonderful business by Arsene. Pure profit.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

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it was an honest question cause i feel no arsenal fan should be upset about it

I was being facetious.

[Anathematic]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

so who is upset adebayor is leaving?

I am, I think he was an asset to the squad and with Wenger effectively saying he won't replace him I'm a little worried.
I have more faith than anyone else in Eduardo's ability, so if he can get into the starting lineup then great, but I question how well he'd play with RVP.

[Stefanbafc]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

You're missing the point. You are aiming at the absolute bottom number for his valuation. Maroune is rated at least £13.5M at least.

I will wait on the good news of Rosicky until he actually stays healthy for more than 30 seconds. If he is still fit come the start of the season then I will be happy.

If he goes we'll see how much he goes for, but Arsenal aren't exactly known for buying players for the maximum fee. There's been talk about Bordeaux being interested in Senderos aswell so who knows what will happen with Chamakh.

But Rosicky did play 45 (!) minutes today, and he did look pretty good for someone being out for 18 months straight. He jumped into tackles, got tackled and got straight up. Hopefully he'll have an whole preseason to get used to the demands of top flight football

[Doc]

Bendtner as your starting striker next season?

[ViVaRooney]

if arsene doesnt buy a striker i would be shocked

[Anathematic]

Originally Posted by Doc

Bendtner as your starting striker next season?

No, Eduardo / Arshavin.

That or we can play 4-5-1 with Rosicky fit...

RVP

Arshavin-Rosicky-Walcott

Nasri-Fabregas

Plus Bendtner is gonna come good this year.

[.DJ]

Huntelaar could be his replacement. He will make a decision this week i think.

[Anathematic]

Real confirmed we haven't bid, Wenger has said he won't necessarily replace Ade. I wouldn't hold my breath on Klaas.

[FreshGeeza]

Originally Posted by 7_Robert_Pires

No, Eduardo / Arshavin.

That or we can play 4-5-1 with Rosicky fit...

RVP

Arshavin-Rosicky-Walcott

Nasri-Fabregas

Plus Bendtner is gonna come good this year.

Count yer lucky stars!

[st3adman]

Originally Posted by FreshGeeza

Count yer lucky stars!

yeah because the 15 goals he scored last season dont count for lalalala, eh?

i dont get why people think bendtner is so lalalala he puts so much more effort on the pitch than adebayor did, plus hes second to none in the air..well hes better than adebayor in the air anyway. Hes only young and played out on wing most of last season hopefully this year we will see him more up top, and for a sub/reserve striker i'd say hes more than capable to fill that role.

[st3adman]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Exactly. Also when I think about it, he scored 62 goals, but I think he had as many clear misses also. Never the less it was another bit of wonderful business by Arsene. Pure profit.

Yeah he did well for us and I appreciate his contribution but imo it was the right time to sell him, I doubt he will ever performe as good as he did two seasons ago, and he obviously didnt want to be playing for us so £25 million looks good from where i'm sitting, especially since we bought him for, what was it 5 million, tasty profit , reminds me of the Anelka deal.
Wenger always gets a profit out of his players, barring a few.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by Stefanbafc

If he goes we'll see how much he goes for, but Arsenal aren't exactly known for buying players for the maximum fee. There's been talk about Bordeaux being interested in Senderos aswell so who knows what will happen with Chamakh.

But Rosicky did play 45 (!) minutes today, and he did look pretty good for someone being out for 18 months straight. He jumped into tackles, got tackled and got straight up. Hopefully he'll have an whole preseason to get used to the demands of top flight football

I'm not saying we will pay max price for him, but the Chairman doesn't want him to go and yuo can bet he will try to get as much from us as Fiorentina were trying to do with Eboue. I wouldn't mind us giving them Senderos, Eboue, and £1M for Chamakh.

I hope Tomas can recapture his Borussia Dortmund form because that would be excellent.

Originally Posted by Doc

Bendtner as your starting striker next season?

It's possible. He wouldn't be bad.

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

if arsene doesnt buy a striker i would be shocked

He will. Regardless of what he said today, he will replace Adebayor because right now we only have Van Persie, Bendtner, and Eduardo as strikers and although Walcott and Arshavin can be mentioned as possibilities they aren't strikers.

Originally Posted by D1J

Huntelaar could be his replacement. He will make a decision this week i think.

It's very possible. Right now Manchester United are the most heavily linked with him, but with Ferguson saying he won't sign anyone else this summer automatically people link him with us since Adebayor was rumored to be leaving and has now left. I would love the signing if it happened because I have been wanting him for the last 3 seasons.

Originally Posted by 7_Robert_Pires

Real confirmed we haven't bid, Wenger has said he won't necessarily replace Ade. I wouldn't hold my breath on Klaas.

True, but no one has officially bid and that is a good thing. I think he has as much of a chance to join as anyone.

Originally Posted by FreshGeeza

Count yer lucky stars!

Bendtner is quality no matter your opinion. You don't score 15 goals in the best league in the world if you aren't decent. He is the best young striker in the EPL next to Rooney in my opinion.

Originally Posted by st3adman

Yeah he did well for us and I appreciate his contribution but imo it was the right time to sell him, I doubt he will ever performe as good as he did two seasons ago, and he obviously didnt want to be playing for us so £25 million looks good from where i'm sitting, especially since we bought him for, what was it 5 million, tasty profit , reminds me of the Anelka deal.
Wenger always gets a profit out of his players, barring a few.

I wish he would have left last season because Milan offered £35M and that would have been real nice to have had coming into this summer. It would have also given Bendtner a lot more field time as well.

[AriseForLife]

Personally I would like to see us playing like this if we don't sign anyone:

Anchor

Arshavin

Fabregas

Van Persie

Nasri

Bendtner

[Anathematic]

I'd play Tomas ahead of Robin every day of the week... I also think Eduardo should be in the first team to be honest.

[elementkid1021]

wenger needs to go buy huntelaar, now.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by 7_Robert_Pires

I'd play Tomas ahead of Robin every day of the week... I also think Eduardo should be in the first team to be honest.

Lol thats because you don't like Van Persie though. I don't like him as a striker, but as a left winger/forward he is in his own league.

I would have put Eduardo in the starting line up, but I still think he needs time to fully recover and be his preinjury self.

Originally Posted by elementkid1021

wenger needs to go buy huntelaar, now.

Tell me about it. However John Carter of ESPN makes a good point in the following post.

Originally Posted by John Carter, ESPN Soccernet correspondent

Even though Wenger remains coy over his search, two names already linked have been Bordeaux's Marouane Chamakh and Klass Jan Huntelaar, who looks on his way out of Real Madrid. Both can be picked up for under 15m euros and would represent a decent decision if the Frenchman decides that his strikeforce is short - although with Eduardo back and Robin van Persie, Andrei Arshavin, Theo Walcott, Carlos Vela and Nicklas Bendtner in contention, he may not.

If that bolded part is the least bit true that would be a nice situation to be in with money to spend. I said Chamakh was rated at £13.5M and €15M is £12.9M. Pretty good guess on my part.

Also now with that kind of money, maybe we could make a move for Yaya Toure, but I would still rather have Toulalan over Toure personally.

[chemicalrubber]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Personally I would like to see us playing like this if we don't sign anyone:

Anchor

Arshavin

Fabregas

Van Persie

Nasri

Bendtner

We still need to sign an anchor though. Wenger, please sign Cana. l'OM's got Lucho, maybe they'll let Lorik go?

+1 for the line-up, maybe Arshavin and Nasri can drift around a bit. Rosicky and Eduardo to back van Persie and Bendtner up.