Arsenal FC Thread - Page 277

B0dunrin · 05-07-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by st3adman

i rekon he could, plus hes much more clinical in front of goal than adebayor, and also replaces the height which we would lose with adebayor

Adebayor has alot more pace, and heis proven in this league.

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Originally Posted by tat Fletcher

Wenger better take that. yeah, we have the policy but come on, its Flamini. please accept it Wenger

I honestly wouldn't like this to be done.

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Originally Posted by Muzzy

If true, this is THE deal of the Summer.

I wouldn't do this deal.

Adebayor has the potential to lead us to glory; 47 goals in 2 seasons is not bad and I doubt many other strikers can match that, unless they cost considerably more than 20M.

st3adman · 05-07-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by B0dunrin

Adebayor has alot more pace, and heis proven in this league.

I honestly wouldn't like this to be done.

I wouldn't do this deal.

Adebayor has the potential to lead us to glory; 47 goals in 2 seasons is not bad and I doubt many other strikers can match that, unless they cost considerably more than 20M.

i hate it when someone uses the old 'hes not proven in the PL' cliché. Loads of players are not proven in the PL and come and do well, players like torres, henry, fabregas, ronaldo have all come here unproved and turned into stars. Huntelaar has a good goal scoring record, so what more can you ask from him. If the 20 mil + flamini deal ever went through that would be amazing value for a player who had an off-season last year while half the time looking like he didnt want to be playing for us.

mikahel · 05-07-2009, 07:27 PM

I feel Adebayor is better than Huntelaar. Especially when it comes to. Strength, pace and in the air, not sure whose better finishing wise. The problem is that Adebayor looks like he's had enough of playing with Arsenal and looks like he can't be bothered on the pitch. I think he just wants money and wants to leave. To me the ideal replacement for Adebayor would be Etoo but he would never come to Arsenal. I wouldn't mind Yakubu, Carew or Benjani. Just my opinion.

AriseForLife · 05-07-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by st3adman

if true, that would be the deal of the summer (on our behalf). I dont rekon flamini would return though, but if he did we would get our holding mid and 20 mil for a replacement striker, maybe huntelaar on the cheap from madrid.

This would be a terrible deal. We would be taking £5M less than he's valued and taking back lalalala Flamini.

Either way it won't happen because we aren't taking back ex-players.

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Originally Posted by tat Fletcher

Huntelaar would not suit our style of play, plus i dont like him

Actually Huntelaar suits our style of play a lot better than Adebayor does. Just curious but have you seen him play on the regular? The reason I ask is because anyone that has seen him play would notice the obvious reasons why Klaas-Jan is better for Arsenal than Adebayor.

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Originally Posted by mikahel

I feel Adebayor is better than Huntelaar. Especially when it comes to. Strength, pace and in the air, not sure whose better finishing wise. The problem is that Adebayor looks like he's had enough of playing with Arsenal and looks like he can't be bothered on the pitch. I think he just wants money and wants to leave. To me the ideal replacement for Adebayor would be Etoo but he would never come to Arsenal. I wouldn't mind Yakubu, Carew or Benjani. Just my opinion.

Adebayor is no where near as gooda s Huntelaar is in the air. Adebayor can't attack the goal, he is strickly a back to the goal striker where as Klaas can actually face the goal or play with his back to it. Adebayor is faster, but he doesn't have the control or balance than Huntelaar has with the ball.

I wouldn't wan Eto'o either. I used to think Samuel would be a good player for us, but as time goes on I think he is wrong for us on all fronts.

You would prefer Yak, Carew or Benjani over Huntelaar? That's just madness. Yak can't stay healthy, Carew can't score more than 12 goals, and Benjani is straight garbage and not even worthy of playing in our reserves.

st3adman · 05-07-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AriseForLife

This would be a terrible deal. We would be taking £5M less than he's valued and taking back lalalala Flamini.

Either way it won't happen because we aren't taking back ex-players.

Actually Huntelaar suits our style of play a lot better than Adebayor does. Just curious but have you seen him play on the regular? The reason I ask is because anyone that has seen him play would notice the obvious reasons why Klaas-Jan is better for Arsenal than Adebayor.

Adebayor is no where near as gooda s Huntelaar is in the air. Adebayor can't attack the goal, he is strickly a back to the goal striker where as Klaas can actually face the goal or play with his back to it. Adebayor is faster, but he doesn't have the control or balance than Huntelaar has with the ball.

I wouldn't wan Eto'o either. I used to think Samuel would be a good player for us, but as time goes on I think he is wrong for us on all fronts.

You would prefer Yak, Carew or Benjani over Huntelaar? That's just madness. Yak can't stay healthy, Carew can't score more than 12 goals, and Benjani is straight garbage and not even worthy of playing in our reserves.

after last season im not to sure milan will be willing to pay 25 mil for him. Flamini wasnt lalalala ill always remember him for keeping kaka in his back pocket in the CL game, plus he had a perfect partnership with fabregas, but thats your opinion on him and i cant change that, just curious did you see him regularly or only a handful of games?

I agree with you on huntelaar though, as my previous posts say, he would be my ideal replacement for ade, unless we could somehow get eto'o or villa. Ive watched him many times and he is much better finisher than ade, whereas ade seems lost most of the time and doesnt know whether he wants to be here or not

AriseForLife · 05-07-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by st3adman

after last season im not to sure milan will be willing to pay 25 mil for him. Flamini wasnt lalalala ill always remember him for keeping kaka in his back pocket in the CL game, plus he had a perfect partnership with fabregas, but thats your opinion on him and i cant change that, just curious did you see him regularly or only a handful of games?

I agree with you on huntelaar though, as my previous posts say, he would be my ideal replacement for ade, unless we could somehow get eto'o or villa. Ive watched him many times and he is much better finisher than ade, whereas ade seems lost most of the time and doesnt know whether he wants to be here or not

I saw Flamini play a load of times, be it starting or coming off the bench. If you look at pages way way back in this thread before he started, I said he was garbage and have always thought that even when he was our starting anchor.

I would still prefer Huntelaar over Eto'o and Villa for a number of reasons.

Muzzy · 05-07-2009, 09:11 PM

I'd love to see Huntelaar here, as we'd probably get him for less than we'd sell on Ade. I wouldn't be surprised if we nabbed him for £15m, and that would leave us with £10mish if we went straight cash. That would help with the Melo deal, and maybe give us the funds we would need for a new substitute RB if Eboué moves on.

Muzzy · 05-07-2009, 09:28 PM

Sky Sports | Football | Transfer Centre | Speculation | Melo reiterates Viola stance

Just a report stating Melo is happy at La Viola. Not really much in it, but perhaps worth a look to Gooners.

Stefanbafc · 05-07-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Muzzy

Sky Sports | Football | Transfer Centre | Speculation | Melo reiterates Viola stance

Just a report stating Melo is happy at La Viola. Not really much in it, but perhaps worth a look to Gooners.

I'd rather see Cana in an Arsenal shirt anyway.

mustangt1255 · 05-07-2009, 10:46 PM

Not that I have seen it in a paper or anything but I have seen a couple of Liverpool fans throwin this around:

If we are pressed into selling Xabi to Madrid, we would likely be getting a whole lot of cash. What are the chances we could temp you guys into selling Fabregas for a big offer?

BL4CK_MAMBA · 05-07-2009, 10:47 PM

I'd like to see Ryan Babel as a gunner.

AriseForLife · 05-07-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mustangt1255

Not that I have seen it in a paper or anything but I have seen a couple of Liverpool fans throwin this around:

If we are pressed into selling Xabi to Madrid, we would likely be getting a whole lot of cash. What are the chances we could temp you guys into selling Fabregas for a big offer?

The most you would get from Real Madrid is in the £15-18M range.

As for trying to get Francesc from us, you would have a better chance of cloning a young Maradona, Zidane, Eusebio, and Baresi than seeing him move to Liverpool.

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Originally Posted by BL4CK_MAMBA

I'd like to see Ryan Babel as a gunner.

I've been saying that since he stated he wanted to leave Holland and we were rumored to be linked for £5M before Liverpool moved in with a larger offer.

mikahel · 05-07-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AriseForLife

This would be a terrible deal. We would be taking £5M less than he's valued and taking back lalalala Flamini.

Either way it won't happen because we aren't taking back ex-players.

Actually Huntelaar suits our style of play a lot better than Adebayor does. Just curious but have you seen him play on the regular? The reason I ask is because anyone that has seen him play would notice the obvious reasons why Klaas-Jan is better for Arsenal than Adebayor.

Adebayor is no where near as gooda s Huntelaar is in the air. Adebayor can't attack the goal, he is strickly a back to the goal striker where as Klaas can actually face the goal or play with his back to it. Adebayor is faster, but he doesn't have the control or balance than Huntelaar has with the ball.

I wouldn't wan Eto'o either. I used to think Samuel would be a good player for us, but as time goes on I think he is wrong for us on all fronts.

You would prefer Yak, Carew or Benjani over Huntelaar? That's just madness. Yak can't stay healthy, Carew can't score more than 12 goals, and Benjani is straight garbage and not even worthy of playing in our reserves.

I did say my opinion so don't start judging what I say. Honestly, it's as if you think you know everything about Arsenal and everything you say is right.

Anathematic · 05-07-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mustangt1255

Not that I have seen it in a paper or anything but I have seen a couple of Liverpool fans throwin this around:

If we are pressed into selling Xabi to Madrid, we would likely be getting a whole lot of cash. What are the chances we could temp you guys into selling Fabregas for a big offer?

Fabregas would cost you a the very least £50 million. Not sure we'd even accept that. We're talking Ronaldo type money to get Fabregas at this stage...

mustangt1255 · 05-07-2009, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AriseForLife

The most you would get from Real Madrid is in the £15-18M range.

As for trying to get Francesc from us, you would have a better chance of cloning a young Maradona, Zidane, Eusebio, and Baresi than seeing him move to Liverpool.

I've been saying that since he stated he wanted to leave Holland and we were rumored to be linked for £5M before Liverpool moved in with a larger offer.

Just throwing it out there. Maybe he would like to play with some of his buddies from Spain at Liverpool.

Also...15-18 million for Xabi? Wrong. At this stage it is going to be huge money if he leaves Anfield after the season he has just had, including now starting regularly for the Spanish national team (GO USA)

Edit: I know age will be taken heavily into account when determining prices of Fabregas and Alonso, but at this point I think Alonso has been playing better recently than Fabregas has...

BL4CK_MAMBA · 05-07-2009, 11:06 PM

Fabregas will never join Liverpool, it's either Arsenal or Barcelona.

Anathematic · 05-07-2009, 11:29 PM

He's refused to rule out the possibility of Madrid, but I think he'll be a Gooner for 3-4 more years then go back home to Barca. The lad has already done amazingly for us, and we will thank Barca for paying us to have him all this time.

AriseForLife · 06-07-2009, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mikahel

I did say my opinion so don't start judging what I say. Honestly, it's as if you think you know everything about Arsenal and everything you say is right.

Its nothing like that. I understand its your opinion, but look at what you said. Anyone that knows .0000000001% about football would never say what you said, opinion or not.

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Originally Posted by mustangt1255

Also...15-18 million for Xabi? Wrong. At this stage it is going to be huge money if he leaves Anfield after the season he has just had, including now starting regularly for the Spanish national team (GO USA)

Liverpool have him rated at £18M and he hasn't ruled out going to Real Madrid. If Real offered £15M I think they would take it. He did have a good season this year, but last year was better in my opinion and thats when Rafa was ready to offload him.

FifaFreaky · 06-07-2009, 11:36 AM

Lol at whoever said Huntelaar is better then Eto'o!!

I saw him play countkles time irl, and no way he's better then eto'o in every front.

People look at his goal average and they think QUALITY player with a lot of potential, but he has that high goal average because he always scores alot against really sh*t team.

AriseForLife · 07-07-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FifaFreaky

Lol at whoever said Huntelaar is better then Eto'o!!

I saw him play countkles time irl, and no way he's better then eto'o in every front.

People look at his goal average and they think QUALITY player with a lot of potential, but he has that high goal average because he always scores alot against really sh*t team.

lalala are you talking about? No one in this thread said Huntelaar was better than Eto'o. Lay off the sauce.

SPECIAL_STEVEN · 07-07-2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AriseForLife

I saw Flamini play a load of times, be it starting or coming off the bench. If you look at pages way way back in this thread before he started, I said he was garbage and have always thought that even when he was our starting anchor.

I would still prefer Huntelaar over Eto'o and Villa for a number of reasons.

What are these reasons?

Eto'o + Villa are twice the players Huntelaar is.

AriseForLife · 07-07-2009, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SPECIAL_STEVEN

What are these reasons?

Eto'o + Villa are twice the players Huntelaar is.

My reasons don't matter anymore since he isn't with Arsenal.

I don't care if they are five thousand times the player that Huntelaar is, I would still prefer him over either of them hands down.

DBond5 · 07-07-2009, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SPECIAL_STEVEN

What are these reasons?

Eto'o + Villa are twice the players Huntelaar is.

Dosen't matter what any of the reasons are, we need someone who can put away more chances than Adebayor can hit the barndoor. Huntelaar is a proven goalscorer and is a realistic target due to the level of talent at Real Madrid now and the fact he wont cost over 30mil just to talk to him.

MaschPotato · 07-07-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AriseForLife

. If Real offered £15M I think they would take it. .

Don't be silly.

As for this about Fabregas, if Alonso went why would we go for Fabregas, whoever brought him up in the discussion?

He wouldnt fit in anywhere with the system we play

DBond5 · 07-07-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaschPotato

Don't be silly.

As for this about Fabregas, if Alonso went why would we go for Fabregas, whoever brought him up in the discussion?

He wouldnt fit in anywhere with the system we play

Who said you would?

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