Arsenal FC Thread

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by Sammy369

To be honest, we dont need any of them right now. I just see Arshavin as being a waste of 15 million. We've got sooooo many attacking players right now I'd rather see Wenger play Wilshere on the left instead of Arshavin......the kid's already class and he's showed it numerous times in both pre-season and the carling cup

There is a reason taht players like Wilshire, and Vela are not being used a lot in the EPL fixtures and thats beacuse they are not ready. Yes they look good, but looking in the Carling or reserves is completely different.

Many of you want to see success for the team and if Wilshire or Ramsey were tossed into the mix and we dropped points you would be complaining about the team selection. Wenger is doing the right thing by weeding them in likes hes doing. He isn't a world class managers known for how he handles young players for no reason.

Arshavin wouldn't be a waste of £15M, but we aren't paying that much for him. We are going to be paying the same amount that we paid for Hleb and there will be some escalators that could pulalalala up, but we will never the specifics of that.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by Sammy369

Ye, tonight's deadline day for the Arshavin deal......although for some reason, i don't reckon it will go through even though Zenit have lowered their asking price. I'm really waiting for the day that Wilshere gets his full starting EPL day debut. But realistically wenger will probably leave it till next season for that

Deal has been concluded already.

They will more than likely give him something in the range of £65-75K and it will be locked up since we have already agreed a fee with Zenit.

[Sammy369]

Never said anything about Ramsey.....he's definately not ready yet. But you just watch Wilshere and how he plays - i've gone and watched him in a couple of the reserve games and trust me, he can cut it. His toughest test was the Wigan match where they played their full A squad apart from Heskey and Wilshere ended up coming out man of the match. I don't think it will be long till he makes a full EPL start.....only eboue currently stands in his way

[AriseForLife]

Again, Wigan A is nothing special, the Girls Scouts of America could beat them. Wilshire, Vela, and Ramsey are NOT ready to be put into the first team and if Arsene doesn't give them a run I think he is more qualified than you or I to make that decision and you see he isn't making it so that should tell you something.

[Thade2532]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

There is a reason taht players like Wilshire, and Vela are not being used a lot in the EPL fixtures and thats beacuse they are not ready. Yes they look good, but looking in the Carling or reserves is completely different.

Many of you want to see success for the team and if Wilshire or Ramsey were tossed into the mix and we dropped points you would be complaining about the team selection. Wenger is doing the right thing by weeding them in likes hes doing. He isn't a world class managers known for how he handles young players for no reason.

Arshavin wouldn't be a waste of £15M, but we aren't paying that much for him. We are going to be paying the same amount that we paid for Hleb and there will be some escalators that could pulalalala up, but we will never the specifics of that.

now at this moment in time Wilshere or Vela would do better than a Eboue who is clearly short of confidence so i think it would be ok to give them a chance

also the Arshavin deal would be good i think he will suit our play i can see us looking like this on the weekend possibly on wednesday
Nasri----Denilson-----Diaby-------Arshavin

preferably id like to see Nasri in the centre but he tends to start wide then come into the middle.

[Thade2532]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Again, Wigan A is nothing special, the Girls Scouts of America could beat them. Wilshire, Vela, and Ramsey are NOT ready to be put into the first team and if Arsene doesn't give them a run I think he is more qualified than you or I to make that decision and you see he isn't making it so that should tell you something.

Wigan have been a decent team this season they may have lost to the big side but they have played really well this season, Steve Bruce has done a great job there.

[AriseForLife]

The reason that the Arshavin deal makes since is because by adding him we add another creator to our midfield and that is something we have been lacking for the last three seasons. As much as people say Hleb did this or did that, the only reason creator we have had for the last three seasons is Cesc and witht he addition of Nasri over the summer and no possibly Andrei this gives us to good creators who can keep possession and also create chances and score themselves much like when we had Pires and Ljungberg on the outside.

I would much rather see Cesc and Nasri in the middle with Cesc playing the link man, but I know that Wenger will not using them together in the middle once he is healthy. I think the only thing that is hindering our attack right now is the form of Adebayor. If he could match the form of Robin our attack would be unstoppable because right now Robin is playing at the level of an EPL Player of the Year candidate.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by Thade2532

Wigan have been a decent team this season they may have lost to the big side but they have played really well this season, Steve Bruce has done a great job there.

Shining against Wigan is not the same as shining against Aston Villa, United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, etc. Wigan is not a measuring stick in my opinion.

As for Wilshire and Vela, I can't see them doing much more on the outside that Eboue is for us right now. There is a reason that Wenger is not using them, but people on this board seem to know more the Arsene so I guess he is wrong for not playing them and should be replaced as manager of Arsenal by some members of this forum.

[Thade2532]

very true but i would like to see more muscle in the midfield, that being said Denilson has done a good job this season another possibilty which i have said a few times is move Toure into CM as the more defensive minded 1, he bombs up and a down even when he is at CB he could be abit like Vieira.

[Sammy369]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

The reason that the Arshavin deal makes since is because by adding him we add another creator to our midfield and that is something we have been lacking for the last three seasons. As much as people say Hleb did this or did that, the only reason creator we have had for the last three seasons is Cesc and witht he addition of Nasri over the summer and no possibly Andrei this gives us to good creators who can keep possession and also create chances and score themselves much like when we had Pires and Ljungberg on the outside.

I would much rather see Cesc and Nasri in the middle with Cesc playing the link man, but I know that Wenger will not using them together in the middle once he is healthy. I think the only thing that is hindering our attack right now is the form of Adebayor. If he could match the form of Robin our attack would be unstoppable because right now Robin is playing at the level of an EPL Player of the Year candidate.

Your forgeting Van Persie. He's got more assists than fabregas and nasri put together this season I think he qualifies as a 'creator'. Cesc can't play as a linking man and if he does, he's just no where near as good as denilson there.........thats why i reckon we should spend the money on someone who can play in a deep midfield role rather than another attacking player. If walcott wasn't injured, i don't think wenger would have gone after Arshavin

[Thade2532]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Shining against Wigan is not the same as shining against Aston Villa, United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Everton, etc. Wigan is not a measuring stick in my opinion.

As for Wilshire and Vela, I can't see them doing much more on the outside that Eboue is for us right now. There is a reason that Wenger is not using them, but people on this board seem to know more the Arsene so I guess he is wrong for not playing them and should be replaced as manager of Arsenal by some members of this forum.

i dont think anyone would want Wenger replaced just look at what hes done for this club hes transformed us from the George Graham days where we would win 1-0 alot to 1 of the finest attacking teams in the world, not to mention he won the premiership in his first full season.

[17_Gers4Life]

i lalala wait to see arshavin strut his stuff , and whether he cn shine against the brilliant sides. Like in Euro he was awsum , and thn against spain he was as quiet as a mouse

[17_Gers4Life]

GOOD NEWS!! (uve all probs heard this anyway but here it is )



Rosicky Back Training


Tomas Rosicky is back in training with Arsenal, according to his agent Pavel Paska.
Czech Republic international Rosicky has been out of action for a year, went under the knife twice, and endured a very long recovery, but it appears there is light at the end of the tunnel.
The 28-year-old could be a massive ‘recruit’ for The Gunners, who have been hit by an injury crisis this season after losing Theo Walcott and Cesc Fagregas.
Paska has revealed that Rosicky is back in training with The Gunners, and the representative has tipped his protégé to return to his best.
Paska told Rosicky’s official website: “It’s another positive change in his situation, and it’s a sign of hope that shows the difficult period Tomas has been going through is about to end


Prem: Rosicky back in training | Setanta

[Scuba Steve]

Walcott should be back in training soon too right?

[17_Gers4Life]

shud be soon havent heard tht he is back yet

[DBond5]

A month at least I reckon before Walcott makes a return.

Haha, who else forgot about Rosicky? Let's hope he makes the same return as VP has made this season.

[Sammy369]

Originally Posted by DBond5

A month at least I reckon before Walcott makes a return.

Haha, who else forgot about Rosicky? Let's hope he makes the same return as VP has made this season.

I've never forgotten about Tomas.......before he got injured last season, he was one of our best players without a doubt. Offered so much going foward - The question is though.........when walcott, fabregas and rosicky return from injury and Arshavin is purchased, who's going to be in the starting line-up?

[Thade2532]

Wenger - We have NOT agreed Arshavin fee | News Archive | News | Arsenal.com

no fee has been agreed with Arshavin, the most reliable source there is

[trenty21]

"I believe that we are not close to concluding any transfer, Arshavin or anybody else."

doesnt sound good for you's. I was expecting (like most i guess) arsenal to get a DM or atleast an experienced player.

[DBond5]

Originally Posted by Sammy369

I've never forgotten about Tomas.......before he got injured last season, he was one of our best players without a doubt. Offered so much going foward - The question is though.........when walcott, fabregas and rosicky return from injury and Arshavin is purchased, who's going to be in the starting line-up?

It was a joke, obviously not a very good one.

At the end of the day, I'd prefer having more options then being stuck with next to none. Though, how can you forget about poor Nasri.

[jocky]

fun times

[Aurora-UK]

Originally Posted by trenty21

doesnt sound good for you's. I was expecting (like most i guess) arsenal to get a DM or atleast an experienced player.

IMO they've waited too long with the whole Arshavin fiasco. They should just move on and find another play they need, as they've wasted the majority of the window chasing a deal nowhere near done

[FreshGeeza]

Cahill He's been amazing for Everton.

[.DJ]

Everton will finally beat Arsenal?

[jocky]

Aww **** yes