Arsenal FC Thread

[Thade2532]

Nasri is more effective in the centre, when hes out wide he becomes withdrawn from the game alot like vs Man City he was invisible for large parts of the game, im not sure who other than Denilson can go on the right but Eboue if hes fit can play there hes a dynamic player just lacks the end product.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by chemicalrubber

Should Arsenal sign Shay Given? After all Manuel started out as a reserve keeper and he is average. Also, Micah Richards is a boyhood Arsenal fan I think.

Definitely not Shay Given. Despite Newcastle not being any good he is also not very good either. Given used to be a top keeper in the EPL but these last couple seasons I think he's slid a little bit. Manuel starting as a reserve doesn't mean anything and he is a lot better than people give him credit for being. As terrible as our backline is, he has single handed kept us in games.

Micah Richards is an Arsenal fan but with him renewing his deal at City and his own admission that he would like to "one day" play for ARsenal, I can't see him joining us anytime soon.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by Thade2532

Nasri is more effective in the centre, when hes out wide he becomes withdrawn from the game alot like vs Man City he was invisible for large parts of the game, im not sure who other than Denilson can go on the right but Eboue if hes fit can play there hes a dynamic player just lacks the end product.

Nasri wasn't the only one invisible against City, our entire attack force was nonexistant.

I have been saying since 2005/6 that we should run the 4-5-1 fulltime but for some reason Wenger only uses it in big games or in the CL.

I would like to see this:

Almunia

Sagna--------Silvestre--------Gallas--------Clichy

Ramsey------------Denilson------------Van Persie

Nasri--------Cesc

Adebayor

I wouldn't even mind seeing us run Valencia's modified 4-4-1-1

Almunia

Sagna--------Silvestre--------Gallas--------Clichy

Denilson--------Cesc

Ramsey--------------------Van Persie

Nasri

Adebayor

[LwkguyPlayer]

i like the second formation i would just swap van persie and nasri around

[Thade2532]

im not saying Nasri was the only 1, but in some games hes gone missing, and he played a more central part vs Utd and it came off brilliantly,Arise who do you reckon we should go for, i reckon we need a new CB, CM, LM/RM and another ST.

[AriseForLife]

Here are the players I would like to see join Arsenal in the winter window or this summer.

Mathieu Debuchy (CM) - he would be a great partner in the middle with Cesc and right now he is wasting away at Lille and the good thing is he has plenty of top level experience since he has been in Lique 1 his whole career and he's only 23 and would be cheap. Has a wicked foot on freekicks and he can play effective at RB. I haven't seen him play this season, but I did see a couple matches last season and the season before and he as good when Bodmer and Makoun where in the middle with him. Definitely a box to box midfielder.

Morten Gamst Pedersen (LM) - Can play wide left which is one area we need stability at since we tend to have injuries to our wide men constantly. Would add a nice dynamic to our team since he is a pure wide player and we haven't had one of those since the days of Overmars.

Sebastian Frey (GK) - top class keeper that I have wanted at Arsenal for years. Its a shame we never signed him before he joined Fiorentina because he once made mention of wanting to play at Arsenal.

Vedad Ibisevic (CF/ST) - Until this year I had never heard of this cat, and oddly enough he played college ball at a school about 6 hours from my house. For a ST he has a great range in the passing game, and a great shot.

Steven Taylor (CB) - Has been a bright spot for Newcastle for the last 2 seasons in my opinion. Young but very talented and he's English which is another plus. With the uncertainty at Newcastle I think we could land him.

Obafemi Martins (ST) - Seeing that we really only have 3 actual proven ST I think he would be a great addition to round out our attack force and since he really doesn't get hurt that often that is a huge plus also.

Miguel Veloso (CM/DM) - Had a bad season last year but has regain form somewhat this season. His bad year really would lower his price due to loss of form, but I could see him fitting in well in the team.

Players that I would like to see move on are Rosicky, and Gallas. Tomas has been good when he plays, but he is hurt so much it doesn't really benefit the team to have him since he never plays. Aside from Flamini and Almunia I can't think of a player that I have hated more at Arsenal and in general than Gallas.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by LwkguyPlayer

i like the second formation i would just swap van persie and nasri around

I think Robin loses his effectiveness when he plays in the middle. Robin is deadly if you allow him to be outwide and attack the defense with them being in front of him instead of him being in the middle and have defenders around him. Look at how he played during the Euros when he was used at a RF and LF.

Nasri on the other hand is a beast when he is in the middle and loses effect when he is outside because he needs to have the ball. Its nice that he is scoring goals for us, but his best asset is his ability to create plays, he is much like Zidane in that respect.

[Thade2532]

i reckon youll get your wish about Gallas finnally haha, so if he goes surely wed buy a new CB, i would like Van Buyten he has expirenced and big which is the type of CB we lack, as for CM we defintely need a holder so Veloso would be the best option as hes versatile and young but wont be cheap, id love to see Hatem Ben Afra, he is a decent young player and plays out wide which we need now because Theo is injured for a while and Rosicky is never fit but its unlikely we'll get him because he only just moved and as for a striker, Micheal Owen would be a good option, he defintely has expirence hes not past it yet, rumour has it he wants a move and defintely has that finishing touch we lack at the moment for a younger option Klass Jan Huntelaar for sure would be the best option hes a class player but i dont reckon we will try to get him til the summer a cheaper alternative to him would be Edin Džeko of Wolfsburg he looks like a quality young player and weve been linked with him before.

i think its very ironic that the time Drogba isnt playing for Chelsea vs us Senderos isnt here, Drogba constantly gave him a hard time and Wenger would usually play Senderos vs Chelsea.

[Californication]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Steven Taylor (CB) - Has been a bright spot for Newcastle for the last 2 seasons in my opinion. Young but very talented and he's English which is another plus. With the uncertainty at Newcastle I think we could land him.

Obafemi Martins (ST) - Seeing that we really only have 3 actual proven ST I think he would be a great addition to round out our attack force and since he really doesn't get hurt that often that is a huge plus also.

Taylor has not improved at the rate at which it was predicted when he first came on to the scene. More often than not he has been a liability to the already fragile defense. It is not mere coincidence that the defense has become much more stable since his absense from the team.

As for Martins, he has stated on many an occasion his desire to stay at the club and expressed his love for the city and its people. He has been linked to a move to one of the 'big-4' since his transfer from Inter, yet he has remained.

[AriseForLife]

I'd love to see Huntelaar at Arsenal because I think he is a stud. With him saying this week that he woud like to play in the Bundesliga and with Real Madrid's President saying he would be bringing 3 young players guaranteed I can't see him joining us.

I've never heard of Dzeko before.

I know we were rumored to be getting Ben Afra last season for £12.5M but upgraded and got Nasri. With Hatem taking Samir's place at Marseille and Marseille selling Samir to us I can't see them selling two players to us back to back seasons.

I wouldn't even mind us making a move for Sidney Govou because he can play as a F, ST or W and he is fast as hell with a nice shot.

Owen would be a good buy, but he would want ridiculous wages like he gets at Newcastle and with our wage structure it wouldn't work. Oba on the other hand would fit right in.

Hell I wouldn't even mind if we made a move for Blumer Elano of City.

[TomRuss20]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Nasri wasn't the only one invisible against City, our entire attack force was nonexistant.

I have been saying since 2005/6 that we should run the 4-5-1 fulltime but for some reason Wenger only uses it in big games or in the CL.

I would like to see this:

Almunia

Sagna--------Silvestre--------Gallas--------Clichy

Ramsey------------Denilson------------Van Persie

Nasri--------Cesc

Adebayor

The reason he wouldn't play that is that Denilson isn't as good at doing that holding midfield role. This is why we need someone like Toulalan or Veloso who can give us the freedom to do a formation like this.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by FreshPrince_99

Taylor has not improved at the rate at which it was predicted when he first came on to the scene. More often than not he has been a liability to the already fragile defense. It is not mere coincidence that the defense has become much more stable since his absense from the team.

As for Martins, he has stated on many an occasion his desire to stay at the club and expressed his love for the city and its people. He has been linked to a move to one of the 'big-4' since his transfer from Inter, yet he has remained.

Oh no doubt, I remember when Taylor was basically viewed as the second coming, a messiah of sorts, but no offense to Newcastle, they really don't have the best backline in the first place so there defense gets exposed frequently. Not saying that Arsenal's backline are the best ever, but we are one of the better defenses in the EPL and I think Taylor would do well for us.

As for Oba, I know he could have left numerous times for any club seeing as his contract has a buyout clause of £13M which could easily be undone if Newcastle sign him to a new deal. I know he likes the north and he is a fan favorite so its unlikely he woudl leave, but still nice to have a dream of him joining seeing as Arsene ahs always liked him and you know how Arsene is with African players.

[AriseForLife]

Originally Posted by TomRuss20

The reason he wouldn't play that is that Denilson isn't as good at doing that holding midfield role. This is why we need someone like Toulalan or Veloso who can give us the freedom to do a formation like this.

Neves is only 20 years old and playing his first season in the top tier, give the kid a break. He is normally CM with a tendency to attack and he hasn't been terrible playing the holding, but we do need a more established player. Denilson has been the best partner for Cesc this season but someone like Veloso, Toulalan, Debuchy, Ernst, etc would be nice.

The likelihood of us getting Jeremy is next to none because he is entrenched at Lyon much like Benzema, but who knows, if we made an offer it could happen. I can see Veloso happening before Toulalan, and with Miguel's inherent versatility that is a huge plus.

[Thade2532]

i always said i wanted Richards, i rather have him than Taylor, both are young but Taylor makes more errors than Richards and Micah is more versatile but dont see him joining in January.

Martins would probably be better than Owen as he wont cost as much and is younger than Owen plus another big positive he isnt cup tied so he could play in the Champions League.

Dzeko is a decent young striker that plays for Wolfsburg and is from Bosnia, hes very tall and good with his feet and has a good shot ive only seen him play a few times.

[Thade2532]

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Neves is only 20 years old and playing his first season in the top tier, give the kid a break. He is normally CM with a tendency to attack and he hasn't been terrible playing the holding, but we do need a more established player. Denilson has been the best partner for Cesc this season but someone like Veloso, Toulalan, Debuchy, Ernst, etc would be nice.

The likelihood of us getting Jeremy is next to none because he is entrenched at Lyon much like Benzema, but who knows, if we made an offer it could happen. I can see Veloso happening before Toulalan, and with Miguel's inherent versatility that is a huge plus.

Denilson is quality player just the problem is he is the only player along with Diaby that can hold, now Denilson does the job ok but thats because he has played all his football as a attacking player so it was a grave mistake by Wenger to let Gilberto go as he is something weve missed this season, now i wasnt against him moving in the summer because i thought a decent replacement would be brought in, i was wrong and now realise how much we miss him, im not saying he was rubbish im saying i thought someone better would arive who is younger would join and he would leave to get regular first team football because he was and still super player, very underrated in my mind.

[TomRuss20]

Originally Posted by Thade2532

Denilson is quality player just the problem is he is the only player along with Diaby that can hold, now Denilson does the job ok but thats because he has played all his football as a attacking player so it was a grave mistake by Wenger to let Gilberto go as he is something weve missed this season, now i wasnt against him moving in the summer because i thought a decent replacement would be brought in, i was wrong and now realise how much we miss him, im not saying he was rubbish im saying i thought someone better would arive who is younger would join and he would leave to get regular first team football because he was and still super player, very underrated in my mind.

Originally Posted by AriseForLife

Neves is only 20 years old and playing his first season in the top tier, give the kid a break. He is normally CM with a tendency to attack and he hasn't been terrible playing the holding, but we do need a more established player. Denilson has been the best partner for Cesc this season but someone like Veloso, Toulalan, Debuchy, Ernst, etc would be nice.

No I'm not saying that he's bad I'm just saying that he doesn't have the experience yet to hold the whole midfield together.

[Thade2532]

yeh i agree, thats why we should of either kept Gilberto or brought someone, plus Denilson is a holder

[Avoidconfusion]

Micah Richards won't join Arsenal anymore. He only recently signed a new 5 year (or was it 6?) contract with us and is an intregral plan in our project. I sincerely doubt he would be going anywhere.

[COYS]

I’d be surprised given Manchester City’s financial situation if Arsenal would be in a position to be able to prise a player away from City - especially somebody like Micah Richards.

In fact it’s more likely to be the other way around.

[Thade2532]

oh well would be worth a bid tho test Man City and him, and it aint like City cant afford a new CB

[Thade2532]

Originally Posted by COYS

I’d be surprised given Manchester City’s financial situation if Arsenal would be in a position to be able to prise a player away from City - especially somebody like Micah Richards.

In fact it’s more likely to be the other way around.

rumours were they wanted Kolo Toure of us.

[Avoidconfusion]

Originally Posted by Thade2532

rumours were they wanted Kolo Toure of us.

Haha yeah but not in an exchange for Richards. We want another CB to put pressure on Dunne and Richards (especially Dunne) and because Ben Haim is lalalala.

[Thade2532]

Originally Posted by Avoidconfusion

Haha yeah but not in an exchange for Richards. We want another CB to put pressure on Dunne and Richards (especially Dunne) and because Ben Haim is lalalala.

Kolo Toure is a starter not a sub

[Avoidconfusion]

He would have to prove that at our club first. There is no way Hughes would let Richards (20) go in exchange for a nearly 28 year old, currently injured, player.

Richards will become one of the best CBs / RBs in the world.

[Durden92]

Benzema would be a class addition to the squad.

He oozes class and wenger rates him as well. But we wouldn't be able to afford him with our transfer structure