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Matieo10 · 22-05-2008, 10:03 AM

Anelka...I don't even know what nationality he is anymore (even though it's French) since he's been playing all over Europe. Had a feeling he would actually score but he didn't, might be Chelsea's scape goat after Terry stepped up and went for the glory himself

MaschPotato · 22-05-2008, 10:08 AM

Correct Terry wanted all the glory shouldnt even be taking a pen

LewisLaa · 22-05-2008, 10:11 AM

I think it was more the case of no-one wanted to take it so the captain stepped up.

EAUK_Phenom · 22-05-2008, 10:12 AM

I don't think he stepped up to take the glory - isn't the order of penalty takers decided before any are actually taken? He's the captain, too, so it makes sense for him to take the last (and, in this instance, crucial) penalty.

I don't think the fact that he slipped actually affected his penalty, either - he seemed to strike it and then slip, so I think he'd have missed regardless. Defenders and penalties... they never seem to go together well...

I agree with smeltz: Man United didn't deserve to win (they were outplayed for the majority of the game), but what a great end to a great season for them!

Phenom

LewisLaa · 22-05-2008, 10:14 AM

Regarding the "slip"

I think it was a case of "Oh **** i've just missed *starts to cry, SLIP*

MaschPotato · 22-05-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

I don't think he stepped up to take the glory - isn't the order of penalty takers decided before any are actually taken? He's the captain, too, so it makes sense for him to take the last (and, in this instance, crucial) penalty.

I don't think the fact that he slipped actually affected his penalty, either - he seemed to strike it and then slip, so I think he'd have missed regardless. Defenders and penalties... they never seem to go together well...

I agree with smeltz: Man United didn't deserve to win (they were outplayed for the majority of the game), but what a great end to a great season for them!

Phenom

have to disagree

the Ferdinand didnt take a penalty becaus e they knew who there best takers were...Terry shouldnt even be taking one when they still had other players like Essien there. Chelsea only cam into the secondhalf...manu dominated the firsthalf

just my view

EAUK_Phenom · 22-05-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LewisLaa

Regarding the "slip"

I think it was a case of "Oh **** i've just missed *starts to cry, SLIP*

I don't know if he did it on purpose, but I agree that he'd already taken (and missed) his penalty before he slipped.

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Originally Posted by MaschPotato

have to disagree

the Ferdinand didnt take a penalty becaus e they knew who there best takers were...Terry shouldnt even be taking one when they still had other players like Essien there. Chelsea only cam into the secondhalf...manu dominated the firsthalf

just my view

Yeah, Man United dominated the first 35 minutes or so, but after that it was almost entirely Chelsea's game...

Man United defended well enough, and got lucky enough on a few occasions, to take the game into ET and then to penalties, so credit to them for winning a game in which (I feel that) they were outplayed.

The first 6 penalty takers for each team volunteered to take a penalty; the 7th penalty takers and the remaining players (who didn't take a penalty) were the ones who didn't want to take a penalty, so you have to give the first 6 credit for being brave enough to "step up to the plate."

LewisLaa · 22-05-2008, 10:25 AM

Essien would've absolutely burried it too.

Very disapointing.

smeltzerinho · 22-05-2008, 10:25 AM

lalalalalalalala! Terry is a good penalty taker (usually) he'd have stepped up because of that. Not anything else.

MaschPotato · 22-05-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by smeltzerinho27

lalalalalalalala! Terry is a good penalty taker (usually) he'd have stepped up because of that. Not anything else.

why not give it to essien..someone has experience with scoring with his foot

smeltzerinho · 22-05-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LewisLaa

Regarding the "slip"

I think it was a case of "Oh **** i've just missed *starts to cry, SLIP*

hardly

van der sar had already went the wrong way

smeltzerinho · 22-05-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MaschPotato

why not give it to essien..someone has experience with scoring with his foot

because Terry (usually) takes good penalties.

pay attention

EAUK_Phenom · 22-05-2008, 10:31 AM

I edited the following into my other post, but you guys have posted like 10 times since, so I'll just repost.

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Originally Posted by MaschPotato

have to disagree

the Ferdinand didnt take a penalty becaus e they knew who there best takers were...Terry shouldnt even be taking one when they still had other players like Essien there. Chelsea only cam into the secondhalf...manu dominated the firsthalf

just my view

Yeah, Man United dominated the first 35 minutes or so, but after that it was almost entirely Chelsea's game...

Man United defended well enough, and got lucky enough on a few occasions, to take the game into ET and then to penalties, so credit to them for winning a game in which (I feel that) they were outplayed.

The first 6 penalty takers for each team volunteered to take a penalty; the 7th penalty takers and the remaining players (who didn't take a penalty) were the ones who didn't want to take a penalty, so you have to give the first 6 credit for being brave enough to "step up to the plate."

MaschPotato · 22-05-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by smeltzerinho27

because Terry (usually) takes good penalties.

pay attention

when wqaqs the last time he took one...its always ballack or lampard

LewisLaa · 22-05-2008, 10:33 AM

@Smeltz
Hey i've been on this forum longer than you

Pretty **** penalty though

smeltzerinho · 22-05-2008, 10:34 AM

in training

LewisLaa · 22-05-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by smeltzerinho27

hardly

van der sar had already went the wrong way

Yeah but he probably felt it was going to miss so he was like GRAHH NOOO! :'(

MaschPotato · 22-05-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by smeltzerinho27

in training

i can see why they chose him to take a penalty in a final in front of 70000 people now...if he can do it in training then hey let him take one

Matieo10 · 22-05-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by EAUK_Phenom

I don't think he stepped up to take the glory - isn't the order of penalty takers decided before any are actually taken? He's the captain, too, so it makes sense for him to take the last (and, in this instance, crucial) penalty.

I don't think the fact that he slipped actually affected his penalty, either - he seemed to strike it and then slip, so I think he'd have missed regardless. Defenders and penalties... they never seem to go together well...

I agree with smeltz: Man United didn't deserve to win (they were outplayed for the majority of the game), but what a great end to a great season for them!

Phenom

Yeah the order was probably chosen for the PSO before hand, but I think they're able to choose who 'wants' to go at a certain time...might be wrong, and it's just the order for the CL Final.

As for Chelsea 'deserving' to win...that's crazy.

Chelsea's goal itself, came from the run of play and was quite lucky that VDS and Rio Ferdinand, two solid players slipping at that instant. You may argue the case that Lampard and Drogba hit the post afterwards, and that Chelsea pressured, but who knows if Chelsea would've been as dominant in the second half, had they not have scored and gained the morale. Man Utd also could've scored 3 goals in the first easily, if it wasn't for Cech coming out with two fantastic saves, and Tevez nearly missing Rooney's cross (actually looked like he mis-interpreted it at the time).

Fact is, quite a luck goal indeed by Chelsea.

Neither team 'deserved' it more than the other IMHO game went to penalties, and if you're going by chances Man Utd had 5 shots on goal compared to Chelsea's 3, while Chelsea blew 15 shots wide compared to United's 6. While United had 58% possession of the ball in the game.

I agree, Chelsea overall had more chances considering they still pressured in the second well, and were a better team in extra time...but when it's penalties no one deserves it more than the other, relegation time doesn't matter when it comes to a PSO. Although Chels would've had a better chance had Drogba not acted like an idiot.

smeltzerinho · 22-05-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LewisLaa

@Smeltz
Hey i've been on this forum longer than you

look up smeltzerinho24..25..26 etc.

LewisLaa · 22-05-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by smeltzerinho27

look up smeltzerinho24..25..26 etc.

*Drogba Slap*

That's two

smeltzerinho · 22-05-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MaschPotato

i can see why they chose him to take a penalty in a final in front of 70000 people now...if he can do it in training then hey let him take one

lalala...they should have their five best penalty takers....terry was one of them. Wouldnt have been had Drogba been on the pitch.

and yeah, 'cause Ashley Cole, Belletti and Kalou take in-game penalties all the time don't they.

Get a job

EAUK_Phenom · 22-05-2008, 10:41 AM

How much pressure did Belletti have on him!? He was brought on for the sole purpose of taking and scoring his penalty...

Still, he delivered, so I guess it was a good call, but I wouldn't have wanted to be in his boots!

LewisLaa · 22-05-2008, 10:45 AM

Belleti was a regular penalty taker at Barca though,

MaschPotato · 22-05-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by smeltzerinho27

lalala...they should have their five best penalty takers....terry was one of them. Wouldnt have been had Drogba been on the pitch.

and yeah, 'cause Ashley Cole, Belletti and Kalou take in-game penalties all the time don't they.

Get a job

i'm on study leave for college exams...have u told your mum your ill so you can come on here all day and dont have to go to school?

terry isnt one of their best takers...his pen proved it all noone else slipped

22-05-2008, 10:03 AM	#18201 (permalink)
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22-05-2008, 10:11 AM	#18203 (permalink)
LewisLaa Elite Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7,285	I think it was more the case of no-one wanted to take it so the captain stepped up. __________________ The Red Half of Merseyside.

22-05-2008, 10:14 AM	#18205 (permalink)
LewisLaa Elite Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7,285	Regarding the "slip" I think it was a case of "Oh **** i've just missed starts to cry, SLIP __________________ The Red Half of Merseyside.

22-05-2008, 10:25 AM	#18208 (permalink)
LewisLaa Elite Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7,285	Essien would've absolutely burried it too. Very disapointing. __________________ The Red Half of Merseyside.

22-05-2008, 10:25 AM	#18209 (permalink)
smeltzerinho Festive know-it-all Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In your face Gender: Male Posts: 20,354	lalalalalalalala! Terry is a good penalty taker (usually) he'd have stepped up because of that. Not anything else. __________________ Rutter Out

22-05-2008, 10:08 AM	#18202 (permalink)
MaschPotato EA Veteran Join Date: Feb 2008 Age: 19 Gender: Male Posts: 15,457	Correct Terry wanted all the glory shouldnt even be taking a pen

22-05-2008, 10:12 AM	#18204 (permalink)
EAUK_Phenom Retired Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,803 Blog Entries: 12	I don't think he stepped up to take the glory - isn't the order of penalty takers decided before any are actually taken? He's the captain, too, so it makes sense for him to take the last (and, in this instance, crucial) penalty. I don't think the fact that he slipped actually affected his penalty, either - he seemed to strike it and then slip, so I think he'd have missed regardless. Defenders and penalties... they never seem to go together well... I agree with smeltz: Man United didn't deserve to win (they were outplayed for the majority of the game), but what a great end to a great season for them! Phenom

22-05-2008, 10:33 AM	#18215 (permalink)
LewisLaa Elite Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7,285	@Smeltz Hey i've been on this forum longer than you Pretty ** penalty though __________________ The Red Half of Merseyside.**

22-05-2008, 10:34 AM	#18216 (permalink)
smeltzerinho Festive know-it-all Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In your face Gender: Male Posts: 20,354	in training __________________ Rutter Out

22-05-2008, 10:41 AM	#18223 (permalink)
EAUK_Phenom Retired Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,803 Blog Entries: 12	How much pressure did Belletti have on him!? He was brought on for the sole purpose of taking and scoring his penalty... Still, he delivered, so I guess it was a good call, but I wouldn't have wanted to be in his boots!

22-05-2008, 10:45 AM	#18224 (permalink)
LewisLaa Elite Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7,285	Belleti was a regular penalty taker at Barca though, __________________ The Red Half of Merseyside.