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LFCtorresLFC · 22-10-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TevezIsOverrated

Has anything been said about Gerrard and Torres' fitness yet?

Nothing concrete either way. Both going under intensive treatment to try get fit. Johnson say he thinks Torres will make it but not sure about Gerrard.

Super-manc · 22-10-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by den525player

or your an idiot, just because i think berbatov hasn't been playing well, which most people outside united agree, most pundits agree as well. Simply look at the number of articles saying berbatov needs to raise him game when rooney is not around, clearly shows what the neutral's views are, thats why i don't give a toss what some of you think.

The only player im critical of is Berbatov, because he receives so much hype from this forum.

Well I only give so much praise to Berbatov because you're so critical of him. You don't criticise any other players when they play badly, only Berbatov.

Super-manc · 22-10-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LFCtorresLFC

Nothing concrete either way. Both going under intensive treatment to try get fit. Johnson say he thinks Torres will make it but not sure about Gerrard.

They're both fine, I'm sure of it.

ViVaRooney · 22-10-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by den525player

, thats why i don't give a toss what some of you think.

are you sure about that? if that was true you wouldnt bring him up after every game

Strange Pirate · 22-10-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Super-manc

They're both fine, I'm sure of it.

The orange was better.

kyro7 · 22-10-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Strange Pirate

The orange was better.

I was going to bring that up.

den525player · 22-10-2009, 03:10 PM

@super-manc... right... i have been critical of other players as well, Carrick hasn't had the best start to the season, far from his best. Players like nani, valencia can be better but nani is young, valencia is new, owen has missed some great chances as well, but he is new to the team, and just returned from injury. I was very critical of rio's performances especially after the city game.

We don't actually have that many establish star players in the team...
vds has been injured,
Rio has been in and out of the team, and he also deserve to be criticised, BUT rio has been very good player for us in the past few seasons so we know he will be back to his best.
vidic n evra, nothing to be critical about.
Our midfield has been changed so often after each game none of the players can really settle, fletcher had a good start to the season, but injured.
Giggs has been out best player this season.
Rooney nothing to be critical about.
That leaves berbatov, the player that is suppose to be experienced and consistent, for a 30m player into his 2nd season and doesn't drive the team on? its very disappointing, does he lift the team to a new level? no. does he inspire? no.

So don't turn this around on me.

@viva i don't bring him up after every game, and when i do because he deserves to be criticised, like i said i have been critical of other players as well.

Super-manc · 22-10-2009, 03:16 PM

I think: Giggs + Scholes = 1/2 World Class + 1/2 World Class = World Class

Because they're world class but they can only play in half the games.

fitz15 · 22-10-2009, 03:26 PM

Berbatov hasn't had a good 2 last games, but neither has the whole team.
He got absolutely no service last night so not an awful lot he could do and also he does not work well on his own neither does Rooney, don't know why Fergie insists on that formation in europe sometimes. He just didn't have a great game against Bolton, although Owen did stop him from scoring.

Before that though he was playing really well, scored in the 2 previous league games, had one of his best games against wolfsbourg, also scored 4 on international duty.

Anyway point im trying to make is most United fans here are either at 1 extreme or the other when it comes to Berbatov. Your dislike for him has made others jump to his defence a bit too much, when he was playing well few weeks ago people on here couldn't stop talking about it, partially to rub it in your face i imagine. Then after 2 bad games (for the whole team by the way, not just Berbatov) your on here criticising him when he was hardly the only player who deserved it.
Anyway in my opinion you need to be a bit more lenient towards him den while most others should probably be more critical!

wow that took way longer then i thought it would

Super-manc · 22-10-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fitz15

He just didn't have a great game against Bolton, although Owen did stop him from scoring.

I thought he played quite well, he didn't hold the ball up as well as he usually does against a physical Bolton side, but he created lots of chances for other players and if you watch match of the day all the best stuff went through him.

fitz15 · 22-10-2009, 03:49 PM

Not playing great still means you can play quite well i guess

He did have good moments in that match but not enough really in my opinion. The whole team just seemed too casual in the second half and we had so much possesion around the edge of the box yet no one killed off the game and we almost dropped 2 points, we needed Berbatov to be that man to put the game to bed but he didnt do it sadly!

Laurencioso · 22-10-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by den525player

vidic n evra, nothing to be critical about.

You have nothing to say about Vidic's performances? He's been awfully inconsistent, one game he'll be Vidic from last season, then the next he looks like he's totally lost grasp of what team he's actually playing for.
I don't really think either of the two main men at the back have been good enough so far this season.

ViVaRooney · 22-10-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fitz15

Not playing great still means you can play quite well i guess

He did have good moments in that match but not enough really in my opinion. The whole team just seemed too casual in the second half and we had so much possesion around the edge of the box yet no one killed off the game and we almost dropped 2 points, we needed Berbatov to be that man to put the game to bed but he didnt do it sadly!

???

this is how i see it when it comes to CL group stages

win your home games, dont lose your away games

i would be happy with 3 wins and 3 draws. winning away from home is never easy in a CL and i would never call a draw away from home in the CL "dropped points"

kyro7 · 22-10-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

???

this is how i see it when it comes to CL group stages

win your home games, dont lose your away games

i would be happy with 3 wins and 3 draws. winning away from home is never easy in a CL and i would never call a draw away from home in the CL "dropped points"

Especially with a depleted squad playing on a plastic pitch.

fitz15 · 22-10-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

???

this is how i see it when it comes to CL group stages

win your home games, dont lose your away games

i would be happy with 3 wins and 3 draws. winning away from home is never easy in a CL and i would never call a draw away from home in the CL "dropped points"

We were talking about the Bolton game at the weekend.

ViVaRooney · 22-10-2009, 03:55 PM

oh my bad

LFCtorresLFC · 22-10-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Laurencioso

You have nothing to say about Vidic's performances? He's been awfully inconsistent, one game he'll be Vidic from last season, then the next he looks like he's totally lost grasp of what team he's actually playing for.
I don't really think either of the two main men at the back have been good enough so far this season.

It's very clear to see Vidic is being targeted by the other teams. Teams have realised once you get to Vidic with pace he's in trouble, it's why he hasn't looked as good as before.

roloman3 · 22-10-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

Valencia needs to learn a celebration

he should check out the celebrations in FIFA and pick one

He's not used to scoring with the big boys yet, he'll learn though. Hopefully Nani doesn't influence him.

Laurencioso · 22-10-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by roloman3

He's not used to scoring with the big boys yet, he'll learn though. Hopefully Nani doesn't influence him.

Personally I'd find it quite entertaining if we had a duo of acrobats after every awesome goal

Point-05 · 22-10-2009, 10:44 PM

I presonall think we should employ this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3GfDKVBG4k

sixtoo · 22-10-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Point-05

I presonall think we should employ this:

YouTube - Funny Carlsberg Goal Celebration Advert ( commercial )

Epic.

EAUK_Adroit · 22-10-2009, 11:47 PM

*Dons flame suit*

This is not going to be a popular decision but in order to help ease pressure on the database we are closing threads with posts over a certain amount. Feel free to create another Manchester United thread.

22-10-2009, 03:10 PM	#42732 (permalink)
den525player EA Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Gender: Male Posts: 12,206	@super-manc... right... i have been critical of other players as well, Carrick hasn't had the best start to the season, far from his best. Players like nani, valencia can be better but nani is young, valencia is new, owen has missed some great chances as well, but he is new to the team, and just returned from injury. I was very critical of rio's performances especially after the city game. We don't actually have that many establish star players in the team... vds has been injured, Rio has been in and out of the team, and he also deserve to be criticised, BUT rio has been very good player for us in the past few seasons so we know he will be back to his best. vidic n evra, nothing to be critical about. Our midfield has been changed so often after each game none of the players can really settle, fletcher had a good start to the season, but injured. Giggs has been out best player this season. Rooney nothing to be critical about. That leaves berbatov, the player that is suppose to be experienced and consistent, for a 30m player into his 2nd season and doesn't drive the team on? its very disappointing, does he lift the team to a new level? no. does he inspire? no. So don't turn this around on me. @viva i don't bring him up after every game, and when i do because he deserves to be criticised, like i said i have been critical of other players as well. __________________ Man Utd Highlights Manchester United MOTD 2009/10 Stevie Gerrard training as a kid

22-10-2009, 03:26 PM	#42734 (permalink)
fitz15 Forum Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 18 Posts: 3,900	Berbatov hasn't had a good 2 last games, but neither has the whole team. He got absolutely no service last night so not an awful lot he could do and also he does not work well on his own neither does Rooney, don't know why Fergie insists on that formation in europe sometimes. He just didn't have a great game against Bolton, although Owen did stop him from scoring. Before that though he was playing really well, scored in the 2 previous league games, had one of his best games against wolfsbourg, also scored 4 on international duty. Anyway point im trying to make is most United fans here are either at 1 extreme or the other when it comes to Berbatov. Your dislike for him has made others jump to his defence a bit too much, when he was playing well few weeks ago people on here couldn't stop talking about it, partially to rub it in your face i imagine. Then after 2 bad games (for the whole team by the way, not just Berbatov) your on here criticising him when he was hardly the only player who deserved it. Anyway in my opinion you need to be a bit more lenient towards him den while most others should probably be more critical! wow that took way longer then i thought it would __________________ Thanks Emo_Pinata

22-10-2009, 03:49 PM	#42736 (permalink)
fitz15 Forum Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 18 Posts: 3,900	Not playing great still means you can play quite well i guess He did have good moments in that match but not enough really in my opinion. The whole team just seemed too casual in the second half and we had so much possesion around the edge of the box yet no one killed off the game and we almost dropped 2 points, we needed Berbatov to be that man to put the game to bed but he didnt do it sadly! __________________ Thanks Emo_Pinata

22-10-2009, 03:55 PM	#42741 (permalink)
ViVaRooney EA Veteran Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: doing assignment Gender: Male Posts: 11,461	oh my bad __________________ Last League Match (A) - 0-1 /ref

22-10-2009, 11:47 PM	#42747 (permalink)
EAUK_Adroit Community Representative Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Age: 22 Gender: Male Posts: 23,364	Dons flame suit This is not going to be a popular decision but in order to help ease pressure on the database we are closing threads with posts over a certain amount. Feel free to create another Manchester United thread. __________________ Adroit Community Representative Electronic Arts Currently playing: FIFA 10 and Need For Speed: Shift Looking forward to: Left 4 Dead 2 PSN: EAUK_Adroit \|\| Gamertag: EAUK Adroit

22-10-2009, 03:16 PM	#42733 (permalink)
Super-manc EA Veteran Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Manc-tropolis Gender: Male Posts: 10,249	I think: Giggs + Scholes = 1/2 World Class + 1/2 World Class = World Class Because they're world class but they can only play in half the games.

22-10-2009, 10:44 PM	#42745 (permalink)
Point-05 Forum Guru Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: United Kingdon Gender: Male Posts: 1,780	I presonall think we should employ this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3GfDKVBG4k