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[Super-manc]

Originally Posted by 1nsan1ty91

Maicon is 28, born in 1981

I've put them all a year older except Rio and Wes who have birthdays soon.

[DannyB]

I'd KILL to sign Maicon

[FifaFreaky]

Don't see it happening soon, but Maicon would be an amazing signment for us!

[Super-manc]

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I AGREE

Seems really composed on the ball for his age.

Any news on Obertan's injury?

[Anderson=klass]

Originally Posted by Super-manc

Seems really composed on the ball for his age.

Any news on Obertan's injury?

A month ago Fergie said he would be back in 4-6 weeks , so pretty soon I think.

[fitz15]

Fergie isn't usually a fan of introducing players into the squad in january, but hopefully he is forced to make an exception for him, looks just amazing for such a young player, what is he still 17? Hope he lives up to his massive potential

[Anderson=klass]

Looks good in the Video's . And good to see him get a goal to.

[ViVaRooney]

yeah Ljajic was the better of the two (tosic and ljajic)

people call him the Surbian Kaka

my only worry is, where is he gonna play? he is gonna be like anderson.. our formation doesnt suit AM's. maybe he will be used like Modric

[Anderson=klass]

I have the impression of him as an right attacking midfielder from the video's. So he can probably play at RW and CAM

[FormAtom_Juve]

You better hope he's not as greedy as Kaka :neu:

[Super-manc]

Probably plays on the right but moves inside like Ronaldo did. And then Maicon could go on an overlapping run.

[FormAtom_Juve]

Now now, don't start fantasizing

[Super-manc]

... with Evra and an in-form Nani on the left...

[ViVaRooney]

forgot to mention, love the sig supermanc

[TevezIsOverrated]

And a confident Ben Foster in goal.

We are stating things that aren't going to happen, aren't we?

EDIT: I can't read. Just the in-form Nani part then...

[iFootballer]

Originally Posted by sixtoo

Manchester United vs Sunderland


Signatures

i'll take this one.

[Jamieb08]

Sky Sports | Football | Premier League | News | United trail Brazilian Maicon

[sixtoo]

What?

I thought we weren't signing big money players once they were past 27 and we have a kid called Rafael Da Silva who's been playing there pretty regularly, not to mention the others.

[Jamieb08]

o yeah i also saw this

Sky Sports | Football | Serie A | News | Jovetic flattered by Utd link

[sixtoo]

You can't play for United with hair like that.

[Jamieb08]

[den525player]

Originally Posted by Super-manc

Again, what Tevez did was lose the ball then chase back all the way into our own half to win it back. You can't deny that Tevez did this a lot last season, not so much in his first season. Another thing that Berbatov has over Tevez is that he is able to shield the ball and keep his head up at the same time to pick out a pass. Tevez could only do one or the other. In terms of shooting and crossing they're about equal, though Berba has the better technique and better vision.



Don't think I've noticed anyone who backs Berbatov after a bad performance and doesn't back Foster, Nani, Park, etc.

Right... so blind. stop taking biased views.

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

there is no doubt it is a position that isnt perfectly covered.

Brown: good defender, not very good going forward
Neville: he cant seem to consistently play
Rafael: great going forward, needs work on his positioning, timing and rushing in but those will come with age
Oshea: he does a ok job but would never want him as 1st choice. dodgy

Maicon can not only defend but he can go forward with affect, against teams that put 10 men back good attacking full backs are a must and one that can defend well is a huge bonus

saying that i dont think we will ever get him, inter wont sell. if we did get him Brown will 100% go back to being a cover CB and rafael will learn and rotate with maicon

but i am sure some one whose name starts with a D will have something different to say

Everyone here seems to have the man city or chelsea view.

Why the hell do we need Maicon? he is a very good RB, but we don't need him.

You simply want the best players in the world for every position, thats all you want, treat it like fifa.

You simply don't have the manchester united mentality, over the years we give opportunities to our younger players, but you don't have that, all you want is new players, pathetic really. Just like in the summer when you want to sign robben.

Our club is based on developing players, without that we would never produce the amount of players we did, if Fergie and United think the way you do, we wouldn't of developed players like Fletcher, Jonny Evans, O'shea (in the current team).

Brown did very well a few years back (he just needs to get fit), O'shea played very well all last season and this season. O'shea has contributed alot in defence and attack, he hasn't made anywhere near as many mistakes as Rio or Vidic this season. He set up your beloved berbatov over the weekend, scored a goal recently as well.

Gary Neville might be old, but he is still very capable, he is our club captain afterall, so he will play in carling cup ties and against weaker teams when fit. Rafael has great potential, but surely if he makes a few mistakes here and there, you would want him out, wouldn't you?

Presuming Maicon would cost somewhere up to 15-20m as he is in his prime, what is the need? surely he will be better than the other 4 players, but is it worth it? no.

Signing Maicon would mean forcing Neville to retire, forcing O'shea who worked so hard for this club to return to the bench/probably force him out of the club, Rafael will get limited opportunities for the next few years, meaning he probably won't develop into the player he could be.

Looking back now, as good as Hargreaves can be, he don't need him, never did. If we didn't sign him nothing would of changed, Fletcher would of got more opportunities before. We would of saved 18m.

[wellzsauce]

Michael Carrick has won more medals than Gerrard, Lampard and Barry COMBINED

Medals on the table, lads
By NEIL CUSTIS

GEORGE BEST was once famously asked by a hotel porter 'Where did it all go wrong?'

At the time, Miss World was laying on the Manchester United legend's bed quaffing champagne - next to £15,000 they had won from a night at a casino.
Michael Carrick is not into the excesses of Best. But he is similarly incredulous at the barrage of inquiries about his career supposedly disappearing up a cul-de-sac.
For Carrick has the medals to prove he has been no flop at Old Trafford.

The Geordie midfielder has a Premier League winner's medal from each of the three seasons since he joined United from Tottenham in July 2006 and has also lifted the Champions League trophy.
By contrast, those keeping him out of the England side - Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard and Gareth Barry - can muster only three of those medals between them.
There have been two Premier Leagues for Lampard, one Champions League for Gerrard and nothing for Barry.
But still there is a feeling that, at the age of 28, Carrick has not yet cracked it.
Only last week, Alex Ferguson was explaining that Carrick had been left out of the United team in some of the early games because he always makes a slow start to a season.
With England, Carrick has been more out than in.
It is eight years since his debut and there was a four-year gap between his second and third caps.
He has still to play a minute of the current World Cup qualifying campaign, has never scored for his country and a return of 19 caps is paltry for a player of such pedigree.
Now, though, Carrick has a chance to stake his claim for a World Cup finals place in the upcoming games against Ukraine and Belarus - and he knows it is crunch time.
Carrick admitted: "I haven't won enough caps, I agree. I should probably have more.
"I don't really scratch my head about it. Things happen for a reason and it hasn't worked out with England as much as I would have liked.
"Maybe I've not played well at the right times or things haven't fallen for me.
"But what matters now is looking ahead and doing what I can to be successful in the future, trying to be positive."
Carrick has had a conversation with United chief Ferguson about his indifferent start. Yet he is adamant there is no axe to grind on either side, despite being left out again against Sunderland last weekend.
He added: "I've had a chat with the gaffer and he says I need a month or a few games under my belt before I start to hit top form.
"It wasn't a meeting or anything like that.
"We were just chatting and he said that was the case. That's fine by me.
"I've never had a problem with him.
"I've never gone to him with a problem, he has never come to me with a problem and the time I've had at the club has been successful.
"All the United midfielders are playing well and it's about rotating the squad. I've still played seven games or so, including both Champions League matches, which is as many as anyone.
"I'll probably start hitting top form right now.
"Everyone's different. It takes most players a few games to get that edge and then you're flying again. I really don't think it's a big issue.
"I've nothing to prove at all.
"I've been with United three years and it has been three good years.
"But it doesn't mean you're guaranteed a place in the team.
"You still have to play well enough. And that is the case for everyone."
So does he think he has a chance of making Fabio Capello's final 23 for South Africa?
Carrick admitted: "I've not really sat down and thought about the structure of the squad. It's more a case of 'I'm in the squad at the moment, I have to play well to stay there and, hopefully, I will play well enough to get into the team'.
"It has been a while since I started in a qualifier, so I hope the experience that I have gained with United in top European games will help my chances.
"England is different to United. I haven't played as much as I would have liked over a period of time.
"But I got a game in the last World Cup, which was great for me.
"I just didn't manage to nail down that place.
"Yet simply being part of the squad is a different feel.
"So I am confident, if and when I do get that opportunity, I will be able to perform well enough."
To play for England, though, Carrick must win a permanent place in the United team and may still have to see off further competition for club and country from midfield rival Owen Hargreaves if he returns to fitness.
Carrick declared: "Competition is good.
"It's down to me to play well enough. I'm going to play in some massive games for United throughout the season.
"I've played in the Champions League semis and final and the league deciders.
"You draw on your experience and have confidence in yourself. I haven't had any negative thoughts at all."
Maybe Carrick is too nice, lacking that hard edge dividing the good from the great.
He insisted: "Without blowing my own trumpet, you can't play in Champions League finals and win them or win Premier Leagues and play for Manchester United week-in, week-out, without being able to shoulder the expectations.
"Just because you're nice, it doesn't mean you can't be a top player.
"Maybe I'm not quite as nice as I look."

[den525player]

Carrick should definitely get a chance with England, he holds the midfield together very well when he plays for United. That would allow Lampard or Gerrard to roam around. Barry is the only player in the way, because he plays a similar style, but has taken his opportunities well. Just like at united where fletcher took his opportunity therefore leaving carrick out of the starting XI

[ViVaRooney]

Originally Posted by den525player

Right... so blind. stop taking biased views.



Everyone here seems to have the man city or chelsea view.

Why the hell do we need Maicon? he is a very good RB, but we don't need him.

You simply want the best players in the world for every position, thats all you want, treat it like fifa.

You simply don't have the manchester united mentality, over the years we give opportunities to our younger players, but you don't have that, all you want is new players, pathetic really. Just like in the summer when you want to sign robben.

Our club is based on developing players, without that we would never produce the amount of players we did, if Fergie and United think the way you do, we wouldn't of developed players like Fletcher, Jonny Evans, O'shea (in the current team).

Brown did very well a few years back (he just needs to get fit), O'shea played very well all last season and this season. O'shea has contributed alot in defence and attack, he hasn't made anywhere near as many mistakes as Rio or Vidic this season. He set up your beloved berbatov over the weekend, scored a goal recently as well.

Gary Neville might be old, but he is still very capable, he is our club captain afterall, so he will play in carling cup ties and against weaker teams when fit. Rafael has great potential, but surely if he makes a few mistakes here and there, you would want him out, wouldn't you?

Presuming Maicon would cost somewhere up to 15-20m as he is in his prime, what is the need? surely he will be better than the other 4 players, but is it worth it? no.

Signing Maicon would mean forcing Neville to retire, forcing O'shea who worked so hard for this club to return to the bench/probably force him out of the club, Rafael will get limited opportunities for the next few years, meaning he probably won't develop into the player he could be.

Looking back now, as good as Hargreaves can be, he don't need him, never did. If we didn't sign him nothing would of changed, Fletcher would of got more opportunities before. We would of saved 18m.

*facepalm*

its all good and well giving youngsters games but you still need experience in the first team. someone that can produce consistently. you ever wondered why arsenal havent won a thing in 5 years? no matter how good the young players is until they are 24-25 they dont have that consistency and mental strength to deal with first team football... not these days anyway. in the 90's you could play with youngsters as you could afford to lose 6-7 games and still win the league

i actually want us to win titles, shoot me. and to do that you first need the players then you can have the youth behind them and once those experienced players leave then if the youngsters are good enough they can take their place. you are leaving in a fairy land if you think youngsters can deliver premier league or CL titles in these times.
it is far too early for rafael. he has ofcourse made mistakes, HE IS lalalalaING 20 YEARS OLD.

I personally dont rate Oshea, sure i love how he can cover nearly the whole back 4 but he is still dodgy defensively and attacking imo. i would want him in the squad but not the team. with neville... i just said "he cant seem to get back to back games", thats not up for debate.

in the end, if a player is available and he can improve the team then i would want him here..... you seem to take these "if we got him..." talks far too serious. its a forum lighten the lalalala up