Manchester United FC

[iFootballer]

Originally Posted by den525player

he played well in the last 2 games? exactly what i predicted, idiots like you. Just because he scored a marvelous goal doesn't mean he had a good game, take berbatov's goal out against sunderland, he was the poorest united player out there.

@wellzsauce you are quite wrong, majority of united fans are frustrated at berbatov's performances, i don't hate berbatov, i criticise him because he deserve it. Any 30m player who doesn't perform should receive their criticism.

People on here seem to think all united fans hate Tevez, if you were at the ground against City, most of the crowd applauded him, only the minority of idiots booed him. On tv it sounded like everyone booed him but that wasn't the case at all.

People who thinks Tevez betrayed us and moved to city is wrong, we betrayed him, yet fans hate him for nothing.

PS Tevez once again outperformed Berbatov.

on point.

that's the only thing he offered that game was the goal which is pointless now since it ended a draw. the whole team was poor except for a few exceptions like Anderson, Nani (2nd half), and Vidic

[kyro7]

Originally Posted by iFootballer

on point.

that's the only thing he offered that game was the goal which is pointless now since it ended a draw. the whole team was poor except for a few exceptions like Anderson, Nani (2nd half), and Vidic

This post sums up idiocy, how can his goal be "pointless" when if it didn't happen we wouldn't have got a point, a league can be won and lost by a point.

[iFootballer]

Originally Posted by kyro7

This post sums up idiocy, how can his goal be "pointless" when if it didn't happen we wouldn't have got a point, a league can be won and lost by a point.

what's idiotic is how you do not understand. it's "pointless" because it's not worth bragging or mentioning it because United did not win the game. Just like teams who score these amazing screamers but no one cares to brag about or mention it because they've either drawn or lost the game.

[kyro7]

Originally Posted by iFootballer

what's idiotic is how you do not understand. it's "pointless" because it's not worth bragging or mentioning it because United did not win the game. Just like teams who score these amazing screamers but no one cares to brag about or mention it because they've either drawn or lost the game.

It's not pointless, no one for United played great, as you said Nani played okay second half, and Anderson had a impact, but putting Berbatov aside, the actual goal he scored, was not pointless, because we got a point.

[iFootballer]

Originally Posted by kyro7

It's not pointless, no one for United played great, as you said Nani played okay second half, and Anderson had a impact, but putting Berbatov aside, the actual goal he scored, was not pointless, because we got a point.

i know it wasn't pointless, sorry i phrased my earlier post wrong. it just feels it's not worth mentioning anymore since we didn't win that is all. but it was a marvelous goal that was started by Nani's "workrate" that lead to the defenses' error and eventually led to the O'Shea cross to berbatov.

[sixtoo]

The 494KB BerbaTouch for Viva.

[ViVaRooney]

you idiots, that goal changed the game... before that we looked clueless. without that bit of magic we would have lost for sure. thats why you pay £30m for players... for moments like that, a goal out of nothing

[ViVaRooney]

Originally Posted by den525player

he played well in the last 2 games?

what about the wolfsburg game?....

before he came on we couldnt keep the ball uptop to save our lives then he comes on and we totally dominate the game. thats what he brings us

we miss him when he doesnt play. without him our possesion % would be alot lower

[sixtoo]

Why aren't you using the GIF I made for you Viva.

[ViVaRooney]

i am thank you for it

[den525player]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

you idiots, that goal changed the game... before that we looked clueless. without that bit of magic we would have lost for sure. thats why you pay £30m for players... for moments like that, a goal out of nothing

that goal did change the game, but when we came out at halftime we looked like a totally different side anyway, anyone could of got that goal, that could of changed the game.

Berbatov's goal was magnificent, we looked strong afterwards (until sunderlands' 2nd goal), but was berbatov anywhere to be seen? no. He scored a great goal, no doubt, but him being on the pitch didn't change the game.

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

what about the wolfsburg game?....

before he came on we couldnt keep the ball uptop to save our lives then he comes on and we totally dominate the game. thats what he brings us

we miss him when he doesnt play. without him our possesion % would be alot lower

We have played lalalala in the 1st half in so many games this season, berbatov did have an impact in the game when he came on.

you make it sound like he is the missing bit of the puzzle, which is far far far from the truth. He is just another player, he is NOT a game changer.

Plus once again no one is doubting what Berbatov COULD do, we know when he is on form he is a great player, but like i have always said, he hasn't do that anywhere near often enough.

you say Berbatov is the missing puzzle, and he brings the "magic", IF he brings his A game week in week out, we can discuss those points, the simple fact that he hasn't done so, thats why you can't say he is magic.

yeah the intention of paying 30m for Berbatov was for moments like that, IF he can bring the WHOLE package together week in week out. Some games he plays really well holding the ball up, passing the ball but can't score to save his life, sometimes he scores a magnificent goal and is nowhere to be seen on the pitch, misplace and can't keep possession. Those inconsistency is why i consistently criticise him.

When you look at Rooney who is also 30m, his impact is ALWAYS alot better than Berbatov, he can play as a play maker, out wide setting players up like the past few seasons for ronaldo, he can play as a goal scorer, he can play the headless chicken role as well. In this season if Rooney doesn't score, he would create chances for others, work hard. on the other hand berbatov? nothing.

Thats why you never see me complaining about rooney, thats the same reason why i wouldn't complain about owen, because owen is simply a goal scorer, he know what he can do. same with tevez, he is a goal scorer and works hard, we always get the end product.

[ViVaRooney]

same with tevez, he is a goal scorer

i am sorry...what?

and about rooney... what did he do against sunderland? i am same with rooney as i am with berba but you arent the same. you critizise berba FAR Too much, you expect him to be his best 95% of the time.. even rooney cant do this. yeah berba doesnt do it consistently but nor does 90% of our players, thats football. but you pay the big bucks for player that can do something special when not playing well, sure berba maybe hasnt done it enough but until this season he was being played out of position and this season he is already showing signs of his spurs fomr

[ViVaRooney]

Once Manchester United's 'fans' put down their prawn sarnies, they'll learn to applaud Dimitar Berbatov - MirrorFootball.co.uk

Tevez is a crowd pleaser because he runs around like a headless chicken, apparently in the cause of his team. Yet Berbatov does far more running than people think - check the stats and you'll see he's always in the top two or three in his team for distance covered - it's just that he does it subtly and intelligently.

do they have prawn sandwiches in Australia den?

[The Xcentrik]

None of his performances justifys his buying price.. He is not consistant enough.. So far.

[den525player]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

i am sorry...what?

and about rooney... what did he do against sunderland? i am same with rooney as i am with berba but you arent the same. you critizise berba FAR Too much, you expect him to be his best 95% of the time.. even rooney cant do this. yeah berba doesnt do it consistently but nor does 90% of our players, thats football. but you pay the big bucks for player that can do something special when not playing well, sure berba maybe hasnt done it enough but until this season he was being played out of position and this season he is already showing signs of his spurs fomr

Tevez is a goalscorer when he plays, he started far less games last season, yet scored similar amount of goals.

I criticise berbatov the right amount, i don't buy into this whole 30m thing, you are what you are worth. Fletcher didn't cost anything, yet if i had to pick a player i would pick him.

You are comparing rooney with berbatov? rooney performs 8/10 times, berbatov? probably 4-5/10, if he is lucky.

You probably don't understand football if you think 90% of the players don't perform consistently, that sounds so stupid in normal circumstances, players should get a game week in week out by playing consistently (thats what you call form!!!!) form = consistency.

Like i said before, berbatov can use the excuse he was played out of position, this season he is playing in his preferred position, yet he is performing worst than last season.

Berbatov will have to rely on owen continually getting injured.

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

Once Manchester United's 'fans' put down their prawn sarnies, they'll learn to applaud Dimitar Berbatov - MirrorFootball.co.uk



do they have prawn sandwiches in Australia den?

That doesn't say anything at all, you can walk/jog slowly (berba) compared to sprinting/hustling (tevez) from halfway line to the opposition 18 yard box, and the distance covered would be the same. Is it the same? no.

If you believe in that lalalala that berbatov works just as hard, you really are the idiot i think you are.

If you decide to wear tint glasses, there is nothing else to say.

Tevez proved against us, that hard work do pay off, and it is also proven that his style can work playing for any team (boca, corinthians, west ham, united and city). Berbatov has proved that his style doesn't work for any team, clearly shown from his days at tottenham to now.

Like i said before over and over again, tevez is very skillful (not as skillful as berba), he wasn't known as the (headless chicken) till the end of his united days, he has always been known to the world of football to be a very good footballer, his reputation around the world is definitely higher than berbatov without question. (in the past, now and in the future).

[Walkers24]

Thats an interesting fact about Berbatov actually being in the top 3 or so for running, that will shut up all the BerbaHaters out there.

[wellzsauce]

Remember how nice it was when Den25 was gone? I'm so sick and tired of hearing this same lalalala.

In b4 "wasn't it nice without wellzsauce wa wa wa wa wa"

[Super-manc]

Originally Posted by den525player

take berbatov's goal out against sunderland, he was the poorest united player out there.

Your knowledge of the game is laughable.

[The Citizen]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

you idiots, that goal changed the game... before that we looked clueless. without that bit of magic we would have lost for sure. thats why you pay £30m for players... for moments like that, a goal out of nothing

But Tevez can produce goals out of nothing, we paid about £25 million for him and many of you say he isn't worth it well then Berba obviously isn't worth it.

[Super-manc]

Neither is worth it but that's what you pay for footballer these days.

[FifaFreaky]

Edwin v/ sar in todays starting line-up for the reserves, hope he gets too play this weekend for the first squad 2!

[The Citizen]

Originally Posted by Super-manc

Neither is worth it but that's what you pay for footballer these days.

Ay ay, gone are the days when £100,000 was big money to pay for a footballer, now they earn that a week.

[Super-manc]

Originally Posted by FifaFreaky

Edwin v/ sar in todays starting line-up for the reserves, hope he gets too play this weekend for the first squad 2!

Well considering it's a weekend of international games, maybe he'll get in a 5-a-side team with Giggs, Scholes, Neville & Sir Alex.

[The Citizen]

Originally Posted by FifaFreaky

Edwin v/ sar in todays starting line-up for the reserves, hope he gets too play this weekend for the first squad 2!

Wow, thought you'd know when your team plays.

[FifaFreaky]

forgot about the interland duty