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CELTICBHOY7 · 30-08-2009, 03:42 AM

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hell yeah we do...arshavin (need i say more) eduardo...walcott, bendtner,van persie...and we got you players coming in... like wilshire...

you guys got, rooney...er...

You have no chance of winning the EPL, maybe Utd have suffered from losing Ronaldo, who wouldn't? Utd have a much better chance of winning the EPL than Arsenal who are great to watch for 3 or 4 months and then they lose it.

Anathematic · 30-08-2009, 03:48 AM

I don't think any intelligent Arsenal fan is going into the season thinking we are the favourites to win the title, however it's not that ridiculous a proposition.

st3adman · 30-08-2009, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CELTICBHOY7

You have no chance of winning the EPL, maybe Utd have suffered from losing Ronaldo, who wouldn't? Utd have a much better chance of winning the EPL than Arsenal who are great to watch for 3 or 4 months and then they lose it.

CELTICBHOY7 · 30-08-2009, 03:53 AM

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My opinion........

kyro7 · 30-08-2009, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CELTICBHOY7

My opinion........

But everyone has a chance, if you look at it literally.

CELTICBHOY7 · 30-08-2009, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kyro7

But everyone has a chance, if you look at it literally.

Again, my opinion.

kyro7 · 30-08-2009, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CELTICBHOY7

Again, my opinion.

Fair enough.

CELTICBHOY7 · 30-08-2009, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kyro7

Fair enough.

st3adman · 30-08-2009, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CELTICBHOY7

My opinion........

Well you said 'we have no chance of winning' which isn't an opinion, you stated it as a fact, and fact is we do have a chance.

abomufc108 · 30-08-2009, 04:02 AM

i was surprised that Rooney didn't miss that penalty

he took his time well before he shot it tho

CELTICBHOY7 · 30-08-2009, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by st3adman

Well you said 'we have no chance of winning' which isn't an opinion, you stated it as a fact, and fact is we do have a chance.

No i didn't, you interpreted it that way, i said nothing about 'facts'

roloman3 · 30-08-2009, 04:42 AM

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Fabregas, Nasri

The reason why I did not name Fabregas is because he is not a very pacey player, he is a terrific playmaker but in my book spark means the person that has the audacity to beat the man and get in to space. And yes I did forget Nasri.

den525player · 30-08-2009, 05:55 AM

its funny how people question Fergie's tactics. We have played with 5 mids against Arsenal for like forever. We have had success in the past.

The blame is for the players and their decision making. Take away even just half the misplaced passes (which we don't usually make), we would have more control of the ball, all Arsenal's possession and attack were given to them by us.

kyro7 · 30-08-2009, 05:57 AM

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its funny how people question Fergie's tactics. We have played with 5 mids against Arsenal for like forever. We have had success in the past.

The blame is for the players and their decision making. Take away even just half the misplaced passes (which we don't usually make), we would have more control of the ball, all Arsenal's possession and attack were given to them by us.

Yes but when you don't have Cristiano Ronaldo it just doesn't work, I think that's were the difference is.

I'm happy we got the 3 points but really, the formation did not work to the extent of the attacking performance.

sixtoo · 30-08-2009, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kyro7

Yes but when you don't have Cristiano Ronaldo it just doesn't work, I think that's were the difference is.

I'm happy we got the 3 points but really, the formation did not work to the extent of the attacking performance.

Nice sig idea, where did you get it from?

I have much higher quality avas that I made if you want to use them.

Bayern · 30-08-2009, 06:19 AM

United will no doubt be a threat in the PL even without ronaldo I'm sure Sir Alex has some tricks up his sleeve

By the way who did Untied loose to this season, i was looking at the table and i noticed they had one loss

roloman3 · 30-08-2009, 06:21 AM

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United will no doubt be a threat in the PL even without ronaldo I'm sure Sir Alex has some tricks up his sleeve

By the way who did Untied loose to this season, i was looking at the table and i noticed they had one loss

Burnely FC, away game.

den525player · 30-08-2009, 06:24 AM

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Yes but when you don't have Cristiano Ronaldo it just doesn't work, I think that's were the difference is.

I'm happy we got the 3 points but really, the formation did not work to the extent of the attacking performance.

Its not really about our attacking, its about controlling the midfield. We played with 5 mids and Arsenal still controlled the midfield, if we played with a traditional 442, it could of been worst.

If Valencia played to the standard of the first few games, Giggs definitely should of played better same with Carrick. If those players play better, keep control of the ball, we had enough possession to control the game, therefore we would of created more chances.

We had like 2 shots on target or something, both the goals. (ignore nani's last chance as arsenal sent everyone forward).

What i still don't get is whats the deal with all the long balls to a lone striker like Rooney? gallas and vermuelan would dominate him any day of the year. As shown in the 1st few games, even 2 strikers berba and rooney long balls don't work.

Our players are just rushing things, trying to get that perfect through pass all the time, and give possession away.

Plus i don't think this has anything to do with Ronaldo. Ronaldo played outwide, our downfall was passing, keeping possession in attacking areas, and stupid longballs.

kyro7 · 30-08-2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sixtoo

Nice sig idea, where did you get it from?

I have much higher quality avas that I made if you want to use them.

That would be much appreciated, and I got the idea from you, it looks nice and neat, if you want to send them then ok, if you don't like me using your idea, then I'll happily take it off.

iFootballer · 30-08-2009, 08:10 AM

if anything, i think leaving Rooney as a lone striker didn't work too well. he needs another forward to partner up with.

sp4c1n420 · 30-08-2009, 08:26 AM

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if anything, i think leaving Rooney as a lone striker didn't work too well. he needs another forward to partner up with.

Yeah I agree. Giggs was up there for most of the game for support but today it seemed like he didn't have the pace to outpace the Arsenal defense. Even though Giggs was playing well, I think Berbatov should have been put on sooner.

Also, is Scholes injured or something? Because I want to see him in the midfield.

Walkers24 · 30-08-2009, 08:34 AM

Having watched MOTD twice now, both morning and night, I am getting a little concerned at how average the defence is playing. Vidic was making some rash tackles, and Evra looked uncertain at times, along with Brown. I hope this isn't because of Ferdinand being out.

vesiliy7 · 30-08-2009, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sixtoo

Nice sig idea, where did you get it from?

I have much higher quality avas that I made if you want to use them.

You can't claim that as your own idea, I see that kind of design on deviant art more than one can shake a stick at.

den525player · 30-08-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Walkers24

Having watched MOTD twice now, both morning and night, I am getting a little concerned at how average the defence is playing. Vidic was making some rash tackles, and Evra looked uncertain at times, along with Brown. I hope this isn't because of Ferdinand being out.

It was ok... Vidic is a rock, sometimes when those miraculous tackles come off it looks amazing, but slightly mistimed its "rash". He makes alot more good ones than poor ones... so i wouldn't worry too much about that.

Brown hasn't played too many games in the past year, it is understandable that he was rusty, i doubt he is match fit either, but Evans is out injured, so is rio... could of played O'shea@cb and Neville@rb, but fergie would of never went for that as arsenal is very pacey and neville is quite slow nowadays.

Evra has always been like that though... sometimes he can be shaky and sometimes he can be a rock. He was still pretty good, his attacking play is always good though

Walkers24 · 30-08-2009, 08:44 AM

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Evra has always been like that though... sometimes he can be shaky and sometimes he can be a rock. He was still pretty good, his attacking play is always good though

I agree with what you have said, but I would prefer Evra to be better at stopping attacks, rather than starting them right now!

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den525player EA Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Gender: Male Posts: 12,235	its funny how people question Fergie's tactics. We have played with 5 mids against Arsenal for like forever. We have had success in the past. The blame is for the players and their decision making. Take away even just half the misplaced passes (which we don't usually make), we would have more control of the ball, all Arsenal's possession and attack were given to them by us. __________________ Man Utd Highlights Manchester United MOTD 2009/10 Stevie Gerrard training as a kid

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Walkers24 Forum Guru Join Date: May 2008 Age: 14 Gender: Male Posts: 2,493	Having watched MOTD twice now, both morning and night, I am getting a little concerned at how average the defence is playing. Vidic was making some rash tackles, and Evra looked uncertain at times, along with Brown. I hope this isn't because of Ferdinand being out. __________________ A rather nice ... Giggsy Volley!