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FC Shorty · 04-07-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jammakane10

arshavin also wanted to go to barca..

also, rafa had no say in the owen transfer, owen purposefully run down his contract so he could screw us over and get a move to real madrid for more money.

rooneh, you just proved your lack of football knowledge right their. alonso is the best CM in the world who doesnt play at barcelona, he dictates the play in every game he plays in and was our best player last year. you seem to have the same level of knowledge as the person in your username

So, Alonso is better than Gerrard, Lampard and Fabregas! I dont think so

LFCtorresLFC · 04-07-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooneh

Where did this come from?

It came from me reading the last 2-3 pages and wondering why people seem to think he isn't a gamble. No answer?

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Originally Posted by FC Shorty

So, Alonso is better than Gerrard, Lampard and Fabregas! I dont think so

Arguably yes. Gerrard doesn't play centre midfield anymore, and Alonso had a better season than Lampard and Fabregas imo. (Lampard was close)

Fabregas will be better but not right now, Lampard is debatable, don't think you can clearly say either are better.

UnitedWay · 04-07-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MrbaigDR

bloody hell, the hypocrisy over tevez. no wonder everybody hates utd fans.

so you agree with what he's been saying over the past few months?

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Originally Posted by LFCtorresLFC

You's talk about it not being a gamble, saying it's a free transfer so it's not a gamble.

What I'd say is that is a gamble having your 1st backup striker so injury prone and past his best. Chances are Berbatov and Rooney will get at least 1 injury each so your gambling on Owen actually being fit when that happens.

unless we sign another striker, then it's definitely a gamble

fergie knows that rooney and berba will pick up a few knocks throughout the season, and that owen will not feature in every game. if saf does not look to sign another striker in the summer, then he believes that kiko and welbeck are ready to step in.

personally i don't think they are. but if the above scenario happens, it will be interesting to see how they cope as first team players in the league.

Laurencioso · 04-07-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LFCtorresLFC

You's talk about it not being a gamble, saying it's a free transfer so it's not a gamble.

What I'd say is that is a gamble having your 1st backup striker so injury prone and past his best. Chances are Berbatov and Rooney will get at least 1 injury each so your gambling on Owen actually being fit when that happens.

Look at the date for crying out loud. There's still plenty of time to buy another striker.
Sir Alex has £85M waiting to be spent however he wishes, and yet people are making it out like Valencia and Owen are the only and "biggest" transfers we'll do...

As far as football is concerned, very few people know the game better than Sir Alex. If he believes in Michael Owen, then so do I. He also underwent quite an extensive medical to make sure he wouldn't be injury-prone. And considering he passed that test, then obviously it can't be as bad as people are making it out to be.

Reaver · 04-07-2009, 04:09 PM

This may seem random considering the recent discussion but I think we should go for Aguero.

People have said he is inconsistent but his goal stats dont lie and he score more than 1 goal every 2 games last season for atletico. With a better team around him who knows what he could do.

His age also gives him alot of time to improve.

If we got him for anything below the British transfer record (which is about £35M or something), I'd be happy.

cbcruz · 04-07-2009, 04:11 PM

Agüero would cost around 40-45m, and he wants 200k p. week.

That is just too much, even for a kid with that much talent and potential.

Laurencioso · 04-07-2009, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooneh

This may seem random considering the recent discussion but I think we should go for Aguero.

People have said he is inconsistent but his goal stats dont lie and he score more than 1 goal every 2 games last season for atletico. With a better team around him who knows what he could do.

His age also gives him alot of time to improve.

If we got him for anything below the British transfer record (which is about £35M or something), I'd be happy.

Last I heard the Atletico Madrid president didn't want to sell Agüero. After they sold Torres he warned other clubs about Agüero and they are very reluctant to let him go.
He'd probably command a massive fee, maybe even more than Benzema, and in all honesty I don't think he's worth that much "yet".

Reaver · 04-07-2009, 04:13 PM

I think were pretty much stuffed for strikers then.

There are alot of strikers out there and its dissapointing to see us linked with the ones we are linked with.

LFCtorresLFC · 04-07-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Laurencioso

Look at the date for crying out loud. There's still plenty of time to buy another striker.
Sir Alex has £85M waiting to be spent however he wishes, and yet people are making it out like Valencia and Owen are the only and "biggest" transfers we'll do...

As far as football is concerned, very few people know the game better than Sir Alex. If he believes in Michael Owen, then so do I. He also underwent quite an extensive medical to make sure he wouldn't be injury-prone. And considering he passed that test, then obviously it can't be as bad as people are making it out to be.

You's are clearly not getting another striker unless you's plan to move Rooney to left wing permanently.

You think Owen-the player who desperately wants back into the England set up would move to United to become a 4th choice striker?

Also no manager has a right to be free from scrutiny, even Sir Alex. You could call him on quite a few transfer mistakes in his team like any manager and blind faith in any manager is idiotic.

As for the medical, Hargreaves and Saha managed to pass so don't hang to much hope on it.

cbcruz · 04-07-2009, 05:25 PM

We need a winger, someone like Silva. We have 6 strikers in Berba, Rooney, Owen, Welbeck, Macheda and maybe Campbell.

King-Osgood-1690 · 04-07-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooneh

If we got him for anything below the British transfer record (which is about £35M or something), I'd be happy.

Might as well say the English transfer record mate, you will never get those prices being chucked about in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.

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Originally Posted by Rooneh

I think were pretty much stuffed for strikers then.

There are alot of strikers out there and its dissapointing to see us linked with the ones we are linked with.

Why mate?

The media try and paint the picture that there are only 10 or so footballers in the world that are top class, when in reality there a plenty of players out there with the capability's, just without the over hyped media image.

Fergie doesn't really have a reputation of chasing massive names, not in the way that Madrid do, Ronaldo for example was hardly a big name when he arrived but look at him now.

You don't need big names to make a good football team, despite what the press would have a lot of people think.

Reaver · 04-07-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by King-Osgood-1690

Might as well say the English transfer record mate, you will never get those prices being chucked about in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland.

Why mate?

The media try and paint the picture that there are only 10 or so footballers in the world that are top class, when in reality there a plenty of players out there with the capability's, just without the over hyped media image.

Fergie doesn't really have a rputation of chasing massive names, not in the way that Madrid do, Ronaldo for example was hardly a big name when he arrived but look at him now.

You don't need big names to make a good football team, despite what the press would have a lot of people think.

Good Point.

I know that Fergie will be after the players who arent top class according to the media and thats what I'm hoping for, its just dissapointing not to see us linked with any.

On the winger topic, I've said it before and I'll say it again Guardado or Silva please. Silva looks more likely though.

cbcruz · 04-07-2009, 06:35 PM

Well said, Osgood.

United4Lyf · 04-07-2009, 07:00 PM

Sky Sports | Football | Primera Division | News | Perez calls for squad cull

Madrid to get rid of 10 players

would any of u want any Madrid players to come to Man Utd

Or would u say lalalala that we dnt need Mardid rejects

Jamieb08 · 04-07-2009, 07:01 PM

Just Huntelaar to me maybe to United

cbcruz · 04-07-2009, 07:04 PM

Sneijder, Robben and Huntelaar.

I think Sneijder is exactly what we need, a new central midfielder. Scholes is not getting any younger, and the same can be said about Giggs. He's also moved into the centre. That leaves us with one left midfielder/winger, Nani. I don't trust him enough to let him play all of the games, and I don't want him perform so badly that Rooney is moved out wide. That's why Robben could be a very good addition.

Altough, I don't see Huntelaar coming in now that we got Owen, but Huntelaar wouldn't complain about being on the bench. If we do bring in a striker, and it's not Huntelaar, I wouldn't mind bringing back RVN. Neither would cost too much, I think.

If not Sneijder, then van der Vaart would be a very good choice.

Reaver · 04-07-2009, 07:04 PM

Huntelaar, Sneijder, Robben.

Maybe even Ramos if they sign Maicon.

LFCtorresLFC · 04-07-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cbcruz

Sneijder, Robben and Huntelaar.

I think Sneijder is exactly what we need, a new central midfielder. Scholes is not getting any younger, and the same can be said about Giggs. He's also moved into the centre. That leaves us with one left midfielder/winger, Nani. I don't trust him enough to let him play all of the games, and I don't want him perform so badly that Rooney is moved out wide. That's why Robben could be a very good addition.

Altough, I don't see Huntelaar coming in now that we got Owen, but Huntelaar wouldn't complain about being on the bench. If we do bring in a striker, and it's not Huntelaar, I wouldn't mind bringing back RVN. Neither would cost too much, I think.

If not Sneijder, then van der Vaart would be a very good choice.

He most likely would. He hated being rotated at Madrid so I don't see why he'd be happy being rotated at Man Utd.

cbcruz · 04-07-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LFCtorresLFC

He most likely would. He hated being rotated at Madrid so I don't see why he'd be happy being rotated at Man Utd.

I never read any reports about him being unhappy, so I took it like he was o.k with it. Anyway, we're not in a desperate need of a good striker as we have 3 who wants play and gotta compete with eachother, unless SAF plan on using Rooney on the wing, meaning we won't be bringing in another winger.

Reaver · 04-07-2009, 07:41 PM

Something tells me Huntelaar is going to end up here but its already a year late.

We dont have to spend all of the £80M.

- £10/15M on Huntelaar
- £10/15M on a Winger
- Maybe £10M on a Right Back
- Maybe leave another 10 million for January, just in case.

Then leave the rest to the debt.

st3adman · 04-07-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooneh

Something tells me Huntelaar is going to end up here but its already a year late.

We dont have to spend all of the £80M.

- £10/15M on Huntelaar
- £10/15M on a Winger
- Maybe £10M on a Right Back
- Maybe leave another 10 million for January, just in case.

Then leave the rest to the debt.

i thought you guys were in need of a centre mid, what with scholes getting on abit?

Reaver · 04-07-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by st3adman

i thought you guys were in need of a centre mid, what with scholes getting on abit?

Well I'd expect that to be sorted with Hargreaves returning and if the worst happens then we have Gibson I suppose.

But we could spend a few million on a backup and still pay off some of the debt.

cbcruz · 04-07-2009, 07:53 PM

I have a feeling Gibson will be sold next summer. I like him, but if he doesn't get enough playing time this season, I excpect him to leave.

Reaver · 04-07-2009, 07:57 PM

We have got rid of a few too many youngsters without giving them a real chance.

Hopefully if he isnt in Fergie's plans at the start of the season then he can impress in the cup.

He deserves a chance even if just for his goal Vs Hull.

cbcruz · 04-07-2009, 08:01 PM

Agreed. For some reason, he reminds of Carrick. He has a cracking shot, goal vs Hull proves that. I hope he comes through, because I believe he can make it. I think he'll get a few chances in the league too, but he's 'bound' to play in cup.

I think he can be better than Fletcher..

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cbcruz Elite Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: at home Age: 20 Gender: Male Posts: 9,543	Agüero would cost around 40-45m, and he wants 200k p. week. That is just too much, even for a kid with that much talent and potential. __________________ thanks sixtoo/kyro7 for sig/avatar!

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cbcruz Elite Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: at home Age: 20 Gender: Male Posts: 9,543	We need a winger, someone like Silva. We have 6 strikers in Berba, Rooney, Owen, Welbeck, Macheda and maybe Campbell. __________________ thanks sixtoo/kyro7 for sig/avatar!

04-07-2009, 06:35 PM	#31438 (permalink)
cbcruz Elite Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: at home Age: 20 Gender: Male Posts: 9,543	Well said, Osgood. __________________ thanks sixtoo/kyro7 for sig/avatar!

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cbcruz Elite Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: at home Age: 20 Gender: Male Posts: 9,543	Sneijder, Robben and Huntelaar. I think Sneijder is exactly what we need, a new central midfielder. Scholes is not getting any younger, and the same can be said about Giggs. He's also moved into the centre. That leaves us with one left midfielder/winger, Nani. I don't trust him enough to let him play all of the games, and I don't want him perform so badly that Rooney is moved out wide. That's why Robben could be a very good addition. Altough, I don't see Huntelaar coming in now that we got Owen, but Huntelaar wouldn't complain about being on the bench. If we do bring in a striker, and it's not Huntelaar, I wouldn't mind bringing back RVN. Neither would cost too much, I think. If not Sneijder, then van der Vaart would be a very good choice. __________________ thanks sixtoo/kyro7 for sig/avatar! Last edited by cbcruz; 04-07-2009 at 07:06 PM..

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Reaver Forum Guru Join Date: May 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 1,349	This may seem random considering the recent discussion but I think we should go for Aguero. People have said he is inconsistent but his goal stats dont lie and he score more than 1 goal every 2 games last season for atletico. With a better team around him who knows what he could do. His age also gives him alot of time to improve. If we got him for anything below the British transfer record (which is about £35M or something), I'd be happy.

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Reaver Forum Guru Join Date: May 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 1,349	I think were pretty much stuffed for strikers then. There are alot of strikers out there and its dissapointing to see us linked with the ones we are linked with.

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Reaver Forum Guru Join Date: May 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 1,349	Huntelaar, Sneijder, Robben. Maybe even Ramos if they sign Maicon.

04-07-2009, 07:41 PM	#31445 (permalink)
Reaver Forum Guru Join Date: May 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 1,349	Something tells me Huntelaar is going to end up here but its already a year late. We dont have to spend all of the £80M. - £10/15M on Huntelaar - £10/15M on a Winger - Maybe £10M on a Right Back - Maybe leave another 10 million for January, just in case. Then leave the rest to the debt.

04-07-2009, 07:53 PM	#31448 (permalink)
cbcruz Elite Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: at home Age: 20 Gender: Male Posts: 9,543	I have a feeling Gibson will be sold next summer. I like him, but if he doesn't get enough playing time this season, I excpect him to leave. __________________ thanks sixtoo/kyro7 for sig/avatar!

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Reaver Forum Guru Join Date: May 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 1,349	We have got rid of a few too many youngsters without giving them a real chance. Hopefully if he isnt in Fergie's plans at the start of the season then he can impress in the cup. He deserves a chance even if just for his goal Vs Hull.

04-07-2009, 08:01 PM	#31450 (permalink)
cbcruz Elite Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: at home Age: 20 Gender: Male Posts: 9,543	Agreed. For some reason, he reminds of Carrick. He has a cracking shot, goal vs Hull proves that. I hope he comes through, because I believe he can make it. I think he'll get a few chances in the league too, but he's 'bound' to play in cup. I think he can be better than Fletcher.. __________________ thanks sixtoo/kyro7 for sig/avatar!