Manchester United FC

[X3F Maxi]

Originally Posted by den525player

thats ridiculous, its only because Madrid is willing to pay big bucks and Barcelona is the european champions. when you asked the same question last season alot of people wanted to join United.

exactly my point... united cant currently attract big players..

[X3F Maxi]

Originally Posted by Moz89

if anything lad your the one gettin involved. if you look back i was the one speaking to manc_united, not you

Its a forum... if you dont want people involved.. do it in pm

[Super-manc]

Originally Posted by den525player

Manchester United are being linked with a shock move for Villarreal striker Giuseppe Rossi.

I'm shocked

[UnitedWay]

Originally Posted by abomufc108

Realmadrid and Manchester United are on the verge of singing Valencia

"Antonio Valencia's exit from Wigan is looming, with "acceptable" bids of between £14m and £18m having been received from Manchester United and Real Madrid (Daily Mail). Where the player ends up though is "entirely up to him", according to Dave Whelan (The Sun). "

Real can pay more wages (after the tax) so he will end up with them

i'm assuming that the £14m bid was ours, good price actually, i was expecting £17-£20+. but it's extremely hard to compete against real as they'll offer him a greater wage packet, with the luxuries of the spanish lifestyle.

madrid cannot assure valencia first team football week-in, week-out which is the advantage we have over them in signing him. but i really can't see why madrid would want him.

but if he doesn't want to join united, fair does.

Originally Posted by X3F Maxi

Sky Sports | Football | Transfer Centre | Possible Deal | United's Douglas offer rejected

i fail to see why they would reject that offer.

it's only a short trial, whats the problem. this suggests to me that gremio are fearful that.. if he did actually go on trial and did not display the hype that surrounds him, then the price tag of £18m would not be justified. i'm not saying that he's not potentially world-class..

i think gremio are trying to play it safe. sell him based on reputation and expectation for a stupid price. which is fair enough actually because they sold anderson to porto for a cheap price and they sold him to us for a lot more, i think ronaldinho to psg was cheap too. gremio want the best deal possible.

unless the story is rubbish. then i've a feeling we'll sign him, not for the price they're asking. a reasonable sum of money plus add-ons based on future peformances - they'll accept.

[abomufc108]

Originally Posted by UnitedWay

i'm assuming that the £14m bid was ours, good price actually, i was expecting £17-£20+. but it's extremely hard to compete against real as they'll offer him a greater wage packet, with the luxuries of the spanish lifestyle.

madrid cannot assure valencia first team football week-in, week-out which is the advantage we have over them in signing him. but i really can't see why madrid would want him.

but if he doesn't want to join united, fair does.


i fail to see why they would reject that offer.

Valencia would settle easier in spain because of the language and that he played in the La Liga before
the only advantage he have here in Manchester is the first team football and thats it
but i can't understand what Madrid want from Valencia
they have more quality wingers as Robben and Ronaldo, Kaka can play there and they have decent cover as Marcelho (sp) Higuen and Drenthe can play there
also i can't understand what they want from Cesc cause if they are going to use Kaka as an attacking midfielder they will need a defeinsive midfielder as a CM with Am don't work especially with their ultra weak defence, and Cesc can't play on wings or any other postition other than CM/AM
they want Benzema and Villa but they Huntelaar and Ruud the greatest two strikers in their nation and with players like Kaka and Robben that means they can garantee their strikers with great crosses, they also have Raul and Higuen, if they get both of Villa and Benz its going to block the potential of Higuen and hense Ruud and Klaas will leave the club for cheap prices
what Realmadrid are making is non-sense and mark my words they will fail this year

[ViVaRooney]

Originally Posted by X3F Maxi

Looks like uniteds time for attracting top players is over..

what the lalalala!! and cant believe a united fan agreed with that

we just won the PL 3 times in a row, been to the final of the CL in the last 2 years

lalalalaing pathetic comment, if a player is looking to move to the premier league we are still the best team. we never really sign "top" players anyway, we take a player in the verge of being world class and nurture them so that they will be world class.

[ViVaRooney]

Valencia would settle easier in spain because of the language and that he played in the La Liga before

mate what are you talking about? he has been playing in the premier league for 2 years lalala he woldnt even need to settle in here

[abomufc108]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

mate what are you talking about? he has been playing in the premier league for 2 years lalala he woldnt even need to settle in here

i didn't mean that he settle their but not here
i meant that there will be no excuses not join Realmadrid

and yes we can't attract stars as we did before and its not our mistake
who want to pay 50% of his wages as taxes and who would turn the sexy girls and beaches of spain
and we cannot compete with RM Moneh !
also Citteh and Chil$ki offer an after tax salary better than any salary we would offer before the tax

[UnitedWay]

Originally Posted by abomufc108

Valencia would settle easier in spain because of the language and that he played in the La Liga before
the only advantage he have here in Manchester is the first team football and thats it
but i can't understand what Madrid want from Valencia
they have more quality wingers as Robben and Ronaldo, Kaka can play there and they have decent cover as Marcelho (sp) Higuen and Drenthe can play there
also i can't understand what they want from Cesc cause if they are going to use Kaka as an attacking midfielder they will need a defeinsive midfielder as a CM with Am don't work especially with their ultra weak defence, and Cesc can't play on wings or any other postition other than CM/AM
they want Benzema and Villa but they Huntelaar and Ruud the greatest two strikers in their nation and with players like Kaka and Robben that means they can garantee their strikers with great crosses, they also have Raul and Higuen, if they get both of Villa and Benz its going to block the potential of Higuen and hense Ruud and Klaas will leave the club for cheap prices
what Realmadrid are making is non-sense and mark my words they will fail this year

ah. i forgot he was on-loan to wigan from villareal before signing for them. he's settled in england okay, so i don't think moving to united would be a problem for him. i do think he'll relish a return to spain, but as a back-up, i don't know.

theres a lot of other options whatever happens, no probs.

summed up madrid quite nicely there. and i really hope their project fails

[ViVaRooney]

nvm cant be arsed

[abomufc108]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

nvm cant be arsed

None!

[ViVaRooney]

thats my point, we never sign "top" players... thats not our style, we arent real madrid who throw money everywhere

nothing to do with being able to attract them

[X3F Maxi]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

what the lalalala!! and cant believe a united fan agreed with that

we just won the PL 3 times in a row, been to the final of the CL in the last 2 years

lalalalaing pathetic comment, if a player is looking to move to the premier league we are still the best team. we never really sign "top" players anyway, we take a player in the verge of being world class and nurture them so that they will be world class.

And thats why everyone is rejecting going to united.. or leaving them.. right..

[abomufc108]

Originally Posted by UnitedWay

ah. i forgot he was on-loan to wigan from villareal before signing for them. he's settled in england okay, so i don't think moving to united would be a problem for him. i do think he'll relish a return to spain, but as a back-up, i don't know.

theres a lot of other options whatever happens, no probs.

summed up madrid quite nicely there. and i really hope their project fails

i feel that Valencia would choose us over Real

Marek Hamsik is a good option plays on the left and just 21

lets hope fergie finds a solution soon

[abomufc108]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

thats my point, we never sign "top" players... thats not our style, we arent real madrid who throw money everywhere

nothing to do with being able to attract them

but even the youngsters we are targeting are wanted by realmadrid
Benzema and Valencia for example
imo Benzema would prefer Real over us

[UnitedWay]

Originally Posted by ViVaRooney

thats my point, we never sign "top" players... thats not our style, we arent real madrid who throw money everywhere

nothing to do with being able to attract them

wheres your benzema sig?

[abomufc108]

Great article from Parker

Paul Parker Article - Yahoo! Eurosport UK


The big question this summer centres on how Manchester United should spend the money they are to get from the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid.
£80 million is a huge amount of money but such are the inflated sums demanded once selling clubs know it is United who are interested, it is difficult to name a single player linked with a move to Old Trafford who is actually worth what he is being offered for.
Take the £40m price tag that has been slapped on Karim Benzema's head. Surely the Lyon striker cannot be worth that much? For that kind of money, you expect a proven world-class player, a must-have addition to any squad.
I haven't seen enough from Benzema, or Franck Ribery for that matter, to suggest either is that kind of player. But cut the prices being talked about - to about what both were worth two years ago - and it's a different matter.
Whether the £80m for Ronaldo comes United's way in instalments is yet to be seen, but even if it comes in one lump sum, United are under no obligation to spend it all at once.
But it's clear that United do need to spend some this summer.
Alex Ferguson may well have brought through a great crop of youngsters in 1995, but the current lot is not in the same league.
Fourteen years ago, stalwarts Mark Hughes, Paul Ince and Andrei Kanchelskis left the club, prompting fears the boss had lost the plot and United were about to enter free-fall.
I was in the side that lost to Aston Villa on the opening day of that season, leading to the now infamous "you'll win nothing with kids" comment from Alan Hansen.
But we went on to win the Double that season, thanks in no small part to the contributions of those youngsters who went on to dominate English football for years to come.
Ferguson has always invested in youth, but I just don't think what he has at his disposal at the moment is capable of emulating the likes of Beckham, Neville, Butt, Scholes et al.
It was different back then. Players were treated differently - more was demanded from youngsters and people were not afraid of having a go at them if they did not pull their weight. There was an expectation to see them bounce back and prove people wrong if any criticism was levelled at them.
Those players were mentally tough, and it showed in how that season panned out. But the current crop don't seem to have the same mentality.
A prime example is Nani, who should be ready-made replacement on the right for Ronaldo, but he still has a lot to do - he needs to improve about 50 per cent - before he can assume his Portuguese compatriot's mantle.
He's been at United for two seasons now but has shown little sign of improvement during that time. He needs to start reminding the club of the reasons - 14 million of them - why they bought him in the first place.
On the other flank, Zoran Tosic has shown much promise, especially for Serbia in this summer's Euro U21s, but I don't think he is ready to make the step up just yet. That said, the only way he'll improve is if he is around quality players - much like the kids benefitted from Eric Cantona in 1995 - and being involved with the first team next season will only help to bring him on.
Up front, Danny Welbeck has performed in fits and starts only and you cannot hang a hat on him at that level. Likewise young Italian Federico Macheda.
However, one player who stands out from the rest of the youngsters is Fraizer Campbell. Which rather begs the question: why are United selling him?
Campbell is an old-fashioned striker - he never stops running, he knows where the goal is and he respects his team-mates. I've seen enough of him to think he deserves a chance at Old Trafford.
In my opinion, it's too early to sell him. Is he really going to improve at Hull City? I'd like to see him stay and be given a chance.
If any of the youngsters deserve a run in the first team - not just a game here and a game there, but a proper run of four or five games - it's Campbell.

[X3F Maxi]

Originally Posted by UnitedWay

wheres your benzema sig?

He finally came to terms with the fact benzema isnt going to united lol

[Super-manc]

Exactly what I've been saying - Campbell's quality. Keep Campbell, sell Manucho, loan Welbeck.

[abomufc108]

Originally Posted by Super-manc

Exactly what I've been saying - Campbell's quality. Keep Campbell, sell Manucho, loan Welbeck.

nah keep wellbeck for the dry Ucl and cup games

[Super-manc]

Originally Posted by abomufc108

nah keep wellbeck for the dry Ucl and cup games

Yeah I suppose. Welbeck's more a winger than a striker anyway. We can't really loan Macheda out though.

[abomufc108]

Originally Posted by Super-manc

Yeah I suppose. Welbeck's more a winger than a striker anyway. We can't really loan Macheda out though.

we should loan Petrucci

[Giampinho]

Originally Posted by abomufc108

but even the youngsters we are targeting are wanted by realmadrid
Benzema and Valencia for example
imo Benzema would prefer Real over us

so? does that actually prove we are not an attractive club anymore?

[cbcruz]

Hopefully Real signs Valencia, so we can focus on buying someone that is quality.

[Jamieb08]

well were favourites to sign him apparently and in my opinion i think he'll be good for us