Trophie System

[Nutter]

I got the New PS3 update last night and noticed the Trophie System. Can someone shead some light on this? I haven't found any info on how it works or what you have to do to get an award.
Thanks.

Nutter

[homelessdave]

as far as i can tell new games that are released will have tophies like the xbox 360 achievments i think, older games dont have it but the makers can release patches to join the trophy system into the game. the update will also let you listen to your own music in game with either new compatible games or older games with a patch released

[EAUK_Adroit]

Old games need to be patched, but as above, it's similar to the 360 achievements except you earn bronze, silver, gold and platinum trophies rather than "points", you also have a "level" depending on the number of each trophies you own. I know SSHD has been patched for trophy support.

[Maxen13]

Yeah,
and to further that- you need trophies to advance to the next "level." Platinum helps the most towards the next level, but there is only one platinum per game I believe. The next best is gold and there might be a couple, silver follows that and there will be quite a few, whilst bronze will only help a little bit but will be abundant throughout the new games and/or patched old ones.

Hope this helps,
Maxen13

PS Matt posted a video in the Burnout Paradise thread which explained the trophy system... It's on one of the last pages of the thread entitled "Latest Burnout/Criterion News," or something lile that...

[homelessdave]

cheers for the info guys

[marty1888]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Adroit

I know SSHD has been patched for trophy support.

yeah it is, i seen a few guys with a couple trophies, id imagine it wont be long before we see past game's patched..well maybe not as far back as rfom but the likes of vegas2 gt prolouge ect

[Maxen13]

Originally Posted by IrishdwgDwg

yeah it is, i seen a few guys with a couple trophies, id imagine it wont be long before we see past game's patched..well maybe not as far back as rfom but the likes of vegas2 gt prolouge ect

...and I believe Burnout Paradise is getting a patch for it, as well.

Maxen13

[marty1888]

Originally Posted by Maxen13

...and I believe Burnout Paradise is getting a patch for it, as well.

Maxen13

i just got rid of that aswell....darn il av to buy it again if it gets patched.

[Maxen13]

Originally Posted by IrishdwgDwg

i just got rid of that aswell....darn il av to buy it again if it gets patched.

Or, if it does get patched, rent it for like 2 days. Enough to unlock all the Trophies you would've gotten, and then give it back.
When games get patched, you should not have to re-play the game. The patch is intended to work so that, if for example you play FIFA, and there is a trophy for like scoring 50 goals and in your game you have scored 51, it will unlock and you would not have to score another 50.
Smae with Burnout, if there was one for finding all smashes, you are not expected to start over and find every single one again. If you have already found them all, then the trophy will, if the patch works, unlock automatically.
This means that when you start up a patched game, you could end up rising several levels because you unlock so many trophies...

Maxen13

[EAUK_Adroit]

Originally Posted by IrishdwgDwg

yeah it is, i seen a few guys with a couple trophies, id imagine it wont be long before we see past game's patched..well maybe not as far back as rfom but the likes of vegas2 gt prolouge ect

I've gotten quite a few from it, well, all the ones possible without the add-on anyway. I'm glad I went back to it as I had forgotten how fun it can be for playing in short bursts.

Originally Posted by Maxen13

Or, if it does get patched, rent it for like 2 days. Enough to unlock all the Trophies you would've gotten, and then give it back.
When games get patched, you should not have to re-play the game. The patch is intended to work so that, if for example you play FIFA, and there is a trophy for like scoring 50 goals and in your game you have scored 51, it will unlock and you would not have to score another 50.
Smae with Burnout, if there was one for finding all smashes, you are not expected to start over and find every single one again. If you have already found them all, then the trophy will, if the patch works, unlock automatically.
This means that when you start up a patched game, you could end up rising several levels because you unlock so many trophies...

Maxen13

Not all Trophies will be retro-active for patched games. Burnout Paradise will have retro-active trophies, which is the reason why the game save was locked to a player's PSN-ID.

[marty1888]

Originally Posted by Maxen13

Or, if it does get patched, rent it for like 2 days. Enough to unlock all the Trophies you would've gotten, and then give it back.
When games get patched, you should not have to re-play the game. The patch is intended to work so that, if for example you play FIFA, and there is a trophy for like scoring 50 goals and in your game you have scored 51, it will unlock and you would not have to score another 50.
Smae with Burnout, if there was one for finding all smashes, you are not expected to start over and find every single one again. If you have already found them all, then the trophy will, if the patch works, unlock automatically.
This means that when you start up a patched game, you could end up rising several levels because you unlock so many trophies...

Maxen13

oh i didnt even think of that lol i still have my save/game data so yeah i could do that, only reason i got rid was to raise money on my card to get frontlines..then it only went n got its self canned for ps3 lalalala

[marty1888]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Adroit

I've gotten quite a few from it, well, all the ones possible without the add-on anyway. I'm glad I went back to it as I had forgotten how fun it can be for playing in short bursts.

my missus loves it, it gives me sore eyes though lol she probs has trophies for it too..........il need to look intae that..wee bugga will av more than me n its my system lalalala

[Remora Wraith]

One problem I foresee, Microsoft heavily encrypt save games to prevent cheating and to maintain the integrity of the Gamerscore, Sony however do not, so it is highly likely that you'll be able to download hacked save games that unlock the trophies for you, or even programs that do it for any game save. While there were exploits in some games for the 360 that allowed the achievements to be unlocked I see it being a bigger problem on the PS3.

[Matt@Sim_Moves]

Originally Posted by Maxen13

PS Matt posted a video in the Burnout Paradise thread which explained the trophy system... It's on one of the last pages of the thread entitled "Latest Burnout/Criterion News," or something lile that...

... (my time to shine!)

The full article on Trophies being supported in Burnout Paradise can be found here:

Criterion Games - Article - Burnout Paradise PlayStation Trophies supported

Which links through to the Playstation. Blog, where there are more details.

[rooney da best]

i hope this doesnt turn people into trophy nerds (like a few people i know who do nothing but gain achievments for there 360 because they think it makes them look good)

i dont really have any desire to play through my old games to gain a few little trophys, so i cant see that many other people doing it tbh

[Remora Wraith]

Oh people will, just like with Achievements, the PS3 isn't devoid of the kinda people who would collect achievements, they just can't, like it's not devoid of annoying Americans who never shut up, it's just due to the lack of a standardised headset you generally can't hear them.

But as I said in my last post, unless Sony do some kinda protection on the save games and tracking of trophies due to it's open nature I think it will be pointless to collect them anyway as the people who want to show off will just cheat to get them.

[xXCAUTIONXx]

theres a guy on my friends list who has 3 trophies hes comment is "i have 3 trophies wohoo" he sends me a message with that in and adding "and you dont" its probably hes kind that will cheat to get trophies which is just plain sad.

[AarontheblueSmurf]

I dont care about throphies not unless its shiny

[Maxen13]

Originally Posted by Matt@Sim_Moves

... (my time to shine!)

The full article on Trophies being supported in Burnout Paradise can be found here:

Criterion Games - Article - Burnout Paradise PlayStation Trophies supported

Which links through to the Playstation. Blog, where there are more details.

Yeah, thanks for posting the link here as well!

Maxen13

[Maxen13]

Originally Posted by EAUK_Adroit

Not all Trophies will be retro-active for patched games. Burnout Paradise will have retro-active trophies, which is the reason why the game save was locked to a player's PSN-ID.

OK. Thanks for telling me (and everyone else) that, Adroit!
I thought it was like that across every game... Apparently not.

Maxen13

[thefog93]

Hi,


Just wondering if Fifa 09 will feature Throphies ?

[AarontheblueSmurf]

Yea all the upcomming games will support throphies

[thefog93]

Good Good , Cheers for the quick reply

[AarontheblueSmurf]

No Probelms

[The_Doctor]

Source: http://nutronic.net/clan/showthread....-2009-295.html

While not every game may include Trophies for now, at least one major developer tells Joystiq that Sony's answer to Achievements will be "mandated" by Sony for every new PS3 release in 2009.

This isn't entirely unexpected given recently-revised comments by PSN director of operations, Eric Lampel. What's more interesting, however, is that the developer, which is currently working on an early 2009 release, is also hearing that Sony may be enforcing some measure of uniqueness between spoils earned on its console versus the Xbox 360. Commented to developer, "We've heard some things that make it sound like we will have to do some unique to PS3 Trophies...this is all very new to us." While unconfirmed, we can't wait to see to what extent Sony will try to separate its virtual accolades from those on the Xbox 360, or if the idea will simply be enough to make completionists' heads implode.