ONLINE FORUM OPEN CUP (tournament) - Page 38

B1gBat3s · 30-12-2008, 10:14 PM

i honoustly think the onli reason he won was most likely because he used man utd... i bet he did the following things:
>>ronaldo and rooney up front on there own
>>5 in defence; patrice evra playing as LCB or RCB
>>lofted through ball to ronaldo every chance
>>Custom tactics: Aggression and pressure on 100

Ino its all tactics but its really annoying and noobish lol

Manjovovic · 30-12-2008, 10:39 PM

Post Final Report,

We always believe in giving the best player the best chance to progress. This is why we've had two big group stages. And then two legs in the knock out round. But we must admit that by following the Champions League format for knock out stages this arguably wasn't the case for the final in terms of the format. In future we will consider a two leg final as it was in the old UEFA Cup. One-off finals are exciting and great for television but a two leg final is the real thing. We will also consider a third group stage where all the top players can play one another, thus avoiding a knock out stage altogether. In any case this was a unique experience and it was interesting to witness this one-off final as tense as it was where both players knew there was no margin for error.

Mills might have lost the final, but he should pick up his chin as he deserved the title just as much as A Cos did. It could have went either way. And these two weren't necessarily the only deserving top players in the tournament. We would also give the highest praise to other players who also came very close to lifting the title.

We must remember that all players have lost one time or another in this tournament. As the game proves no player is unbeatable. Even those with incredible records have lost a few dozen games. Of course the best players have a higher win ratio. Though we don't know whether those wins were against top players, average players or learners. This tournament gave us an opportunity to weigh the players strengths and weaknesses against other top players.

A Cos was one of the most consistent players in the tournament. He only lost two games throughout the competition. That was against Mills in the 2nd Group Stage and against compatriot Dyssie in the First Group Stage. A Cos proved he was better than Dyssie by knocking him out in the play off game (effectively a last 16 match). There were two legs, and A Cos came through stronger. The champion has won the title by virtue of peaking at the best time. His record against Mills reads played two, won one, lost one, but he won the all-important final which proves he has big match temperament.

Mills lost three matches in the whole competition. Two of those were against Daz, one in the group stage and the other in the quarter final first leg. Though Mills deservedly knocked him out since over the three matches his goal difference was better and won the two leg match convincingly. Daz should take light in the fact that he wasn't far behind. If the most consistent results took the top players to the final, then Daz's downfall was the opposite. Despite some excellent results he stumbled more often with some disappointing losses in-between. This resulted in goal difference weighing down on him and therefore resulting in a tough knock out stage draw. But overall he should be proud of his results in the competition.

The same can be said for Bates who was one of the favourites, but eventually lost on aggregate by just one goal against Fillerose. He probably lacked the experience of other players who had stiffer competition in the group stages. This was probably due to the fact that Bates 2nd Group stage's main rivals meant to come from the Asian and Australian group which was our only problem group in the end. We had two good players come through but Bates probably needed a tougher test. This also wasn't helped by the disqualification to one of the top seeds Eddy who lied about his result against Fillerose (proved by EA Sports website). Eventually it was anyone's game between Bates and Fillerose, though the Briton should have been better prepared for that game. He probably only knew he was up against it when he was already 2-0 down in the first leg. As he says himself he hit the post on a few occasions so there was either some nerves to switch the direction ever so slightly off or misfortune. As we know luck always plays a role in sport and over two legs you need to make your own luck. Without scoring in the first leg Bates was staring at the exit door.

The enigma Fillerose the number one seed proved that he is a top player. He's actually only lost to one player in this competition the eventual champion A Cos and lost to him three times. The two legs of the semi final and the 2nd Group stage. All three games were deservedly won without trouble by the American so its clear A Cos has Fillerose's number so far.

If our memory serves us right the only other player who was there and abouts having a go at the crown was Bobby. But as you'd read in his report he was unfortunate to come up against Mills a player who's style is best suited to beat Bobby. It was a very convincing victory for Mills so Bobby knows he has a lot more work to do to finish at the top. Tactics can win you most games, but when you come up against a player with great skill and ability like Mills then even the best plans won't make a difference.

Dyssie proved to be the best darkhorse in the competition actually beating eventual champion A Cos in the first group stage and coming close in the playoff first leg. And Derdocar will be kicking himself, and is forcing me to remind Dyssie that he was beating him 1-0 until the 88th minute. Even with that game going into extra time Derdocar knew all he needed was to take it to penalties to have the better of Dyssie on points, but the American stole it at the end of extra time to book his place in the knock out round. At least he saved Derdocar a few tennis scorelines in the final stage.

So, thats a wrap with our feedback on the results, we will keep in touch with other notes, including news (to come) about 'Season 2'.

Manjovovic

Magic_Drogbaaa · 30-12-2008, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B1gBat3s

i seriously thought mills had this one in the bag

mills add me on live u might know my gt now its B1gBat3s funnily enough lol im in a decent club and i can get u invited

it might of been a different story if my comeback was fully successful i was 5-1 down on aggregate but i got back to 5-4 and hit the post arrgg! lool i thought i was gonna win i was wrong, cant wait for season 2... get it ready manj! lol

Cool mate, I saw your invite but I forgot to accept it before I went offline. I will accept it tomorrow mate and give you a game if I have time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by B1gBat3s

i honoustly think the onli reason he won was most likely because he used man utd... i bet he did the following things:
>>ronaldo and rooney up front on there own
>>5 in defence; patrice evra playing as LCB or RCB
>>lofted through ball to ronaldo every chance
>>Custom tactics: Aggression and pressure on 100

Ino its all tactics but its really annoying and noobish lol

Yeah, he stuck Ronaldo and Rooney upfront and both of his goals came about through running with Ronaldo.

He also played 5 at the back with Evra as a sweeper. It's so cheap.

There was also serious lag which aided my downfall!

I knew I would lose this tournament to a Man U abuser and I was right. However, I will be back for the next tournament determined and deserving to win!

Magic_Drogbaaa · 30-12-2008, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manjovovic

World Open Champion: A Cos
Runner Up: Mills

Best Defender: Bates
Best Attacker: Mills
Best Midfielder: A Cos
Best Manager: Bobby

Best Underdog: Dyssie
Fair Play Award: Ash and Top Mojo

At least I won something!!!

B1gBat3s · 30-12-2008, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOM07

At least I won something!!!

haha me 2 woop! best defender

onli let 1 in until i played filler and i wasnt expecting a hard match against filler thats most likely why i let the goals slip past 2 out of the 5 were cheesy buttt a goals a goal and i would of took them anyday lol

Manjovovic · 31-12-2008, 03:36 PM

Season 2 Update

Running this competition has proved to be much more time consuming than we initially realised. This was particularly the case for the 1st group stage where most players constantly needed updates on Xbox Live with regard to their fixtures, rescheduling their times, finding their opponents and explaining to them how to setup their matches. From the 2nd Group stage most of the players were already used to the system and there were many gamers who knew how to manage their fixtures themselves. Though, there were still some players who went all the way in the knock out stage who required chasing behind. A European time zone competition would be much easier to handle, but since we've welcomed players Far East into Asia/Australasia and west into the United States then its always challenging to bring players together. Of course there's no problem with players from Africa since the time zone is the same as Europe.

In order for the competition to function in the group stages we needed to be online from noon time all the way to midnight, and for American matches past midnight to 2am. It was an enjoyable experience and ideal fun for the December holiday period. But we do have priorities outside FIFA09 to turn our attention to from January. This would mean for the next season to be possible we will need additional help. Otherwise running the competition outside a holiday season will be impossible. Of course we are running this competition without financial resources, so when we recommend assistance then such volunteers would have to work with us on the same volunteer basis. We recommend four online volunteers, two of whom can also work offline. The online volunteers will need to work in shifts to come online and see to all players needs according to the schedule as explained above. From these at least two of them will be awarded power to write official updates of results and make important decisions with rulings on the forum. Manjovovic will also work offline and will be in charge of tournament format, the draw, schedules and the final decision on disputes. Derdocar says he probably won't be available for online management, and due to his other commitments probably won't be available to participate in Season 2 either. Those gamers who are interested in helping with organising the tournament should write to Manjovovic by private message on this forum and we can make arrangements together.

With the World Open finishing only just yesterday, it's best to space out competitions such as how FIFA has the World Cup once in four years. Though in virtual reality it would have to be sooner than 4 years

We've been thinking about a minimum of a one month break for players to get back to everything else they have to do in life. But we recommend a 2 month break. Some gamers can then practice in February after a good break in January. This would mean entrees will have to be dealt with toward the end of February. Season 2 competition would start at the beginning of March. Though, we must make it clear that this is only possible with the required assistance in place.

It is also possible that after helping setting up Season 2, Manjovovic could hand over the reins to one of the assisters to act as the main organiser. This is likely to happen since Manjovovic could well go back to his home country in March. Due to all the logistical factors involved it would be impossible to go on and its clear that somebody else will have to take over in time. But Manjovovic will be here to help setup Season 2 and basically "train" those providing assistance to take over. We think it won't be difficult and is highly possible if somebody else who's dedicated and has the required time is also passionate enough to carry through Season 2. The whole tournament itself should last 2 or 3 weeks.

In the meantime if the rest of you guys are hungry for more competition you are obviously welcome to setup your own tournaments before the next event. So that's the wrap on Season 2. We wish we could setup more competitions before Fifa2010 but life outside Xbox has to move on. If nobody is able to assist in the running of Season 2 then we are afraid it won't be possible at all. But, who knows maybe one of you can set this up themselves one of these months. Using some of our ideas you could then take it further and maybe create an even bigger tournament. Who knows? Whatever happens and wherever we are in the world we will keep in touch on this forum from time to time. And wish you luck in FIFA09 and other competitions.

Most importantly we advise you, especially now with Season 1 of the World Open over, to set your controllers down, switch off the Xbox and immerse yourself into life.

Ciao
Manjovovic

dabigblast · 02-01-2009, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOM07

Cool mate, I saw your invite but I forgot to accept it before I went offline. I will accept it tomorrow mate and give you a game if I have time.

Yeah, he stuck Ronaldo and Rooney upfront and both of his goals came about through running with Ronaldo.

He also played 5 at the back with Evra as a sweeper. It's so cheap.

There was also serious lag which aided my downfall!

I knew I would lose this tournament to a Man U abuser and I was right. However, I will be back for the next tournament determined and deserving to win!

Don't worry mate, he got awarded a walkover against me by removing me from friends list, apparently I wasn't on when asked despite replying to Derdocar on the 30th - shows i was on

Well I enjoyed the Tournament loads and loads til that mishap - would have been fairer to remove both players - not the honest one, and am surprised to see Mills lost

Was my bet to take it lol

Manjovovic · 02-01-2009, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dabigblast

Don't worry mate, he got awarded a walkover against me by removing me from friends list, apparently I wasn't on when asked despite replying to Derdocar on the 30th - shows i was on

Well I enjoyed the Tournament loads and loads til that mishap - would have been fairer to remove both players - not the honest one, and am surprised to see Mills lost

Was my bet to take it lol

Both of you were poor in fulfilling the fixture. We considered dropping each of you at different times... there were times you pitched up without him and then a time he pitched up without you which is understandable due to time zones. In total within one another's respective time zone he was online much more than you over these days. Eventually we gave both you enough chances to fulfil that fixture. And in the end the two of you were online at the same time we sent messages to both of you who were playing another Xbox Live game. You didn't respond. A cos09 did respond. And most importantly you did send us a message earlier in the day saying that due to your difficult available times we can drop you from the tournament. So taking all that into consideration we waited a little longer telling you can still play the game, there was still no response even though your gamertag was online and we decided to hand over the walk over as even you yourself requested. If you was more determined to play the game then it would have easily happened. We consider this a real loss. You can either lose by pitching up and not managing your game properly on the field, or you can lose by not managing yourself with regard to your match from off the field. Either way you lost. But this isn't a criticism. There must be something else more important than FIFA09 since Christmas. And we're not being sarcastic. It's true. There's many better options outside the Xbox world. So we hope you enjoyed it

It was a pity for the knock out round though because you were the only progressive player from the top 9 who didn't pitch up. Hopefully the next knock out round will take place at a better time for you. Because between Christmas and New Years is not easy. Though, in the end it was a December tournament so all players knew what they were getting themselves into.

afroCHRIS · 02-01-2009, 07:29 PM

Any chance of joining this set up?

Manjovovic · 03-01-2009, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afroCHRIS

Any chance of joining this set up?

Yes. Keep in touch. Entrees should open for Season 2 next month. Anyway you've already said you're interested so we'd make note of this. But you will need to tell us again when the competition is being setup if you're still interested. Of course this depends on Season 2 happening as per the circumstances explained in the update above.

Manjovovic · 26-01-2009, 08:56 PM

There will be an update in a few weeks time, depending on responses to the Season 2 Update post above.

daz343 · 27-01-2009, 01:58 AM

im well up for the 2nd season i want revenge lol will there b a seeding system based on last seasons results

B1gBat3s · 28-01-2009, 02:40 PM

im up for season 2...

as for helping out i will be able to watch games for you if im online just aslong as its max 1 game a night or so and i could do the match report after the game, i also have a job tho so i wont be available sum nights that might be useful and if some of the last 8 (of the last tourny) helped out that would also be nice

30-12-2008, 10:39 PM	#927 (permalink)
Manjovovic Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 706	Post Final Report, We always believe in giving the best player the best chance to progress. This is why we've had two big group stages. And then two legs in the knock out round. But we must admit that by following the Champions League format for knock out stages this arguably wasn't the case for the final in terms of the format. In future we will consider a two leg final as it was in the old UEFA Cup. One-off finals are exciting and great for television but a two leg final is the real thing. We will also consider a third group stage where all the top players can play one another, thus avoiding a knock out stage altogether. In any case this was a unique experience and it was interesting to witness this one-off final as tense as it was where both players knew there was no margin for error. Mills might have lost the final, but he should pick up his chin as he deserved the title just as much as A Cos did. It could have went either way. And these two weren't necessarily the only deserving top players in the tournament. We would also give the highest praise to other players who also came very close to lifting the title. We must remember that all players have lost one time or another in this tournament. As the game proves no player is unbeatable. Even those with incredible records have lost a few dozen games. Of course the best players have a higher win ratio. Though we don't know whether those wins were against top players, average players or learners. This tournament gave us an opportunity to weigh the players strengths and weaknesses against other top players. A Cos was one of the most consistent players in the tournament. He only lost two games throughout the competition. That was against Mills in the 2nd Group Stage and against compatriot Dyssie in the First Group Stage. A Cos proved he was better than Dyssie by knocking him out in the play off game (effectively a last 16 match). There were two legs, and A Cos came through stronger. The champion has won the title by virtue of peaking at the best time. His record against Mills reads played two, won one, lost one, but he won the all-important final which proves he has big match temperament. Mills lost three matches in the whole competition. Two of those were against Daz, one in the group stage and the other in the quarter final first leg. Though Mills deservedly knocked him out since over the three matches his goal difference was better and won the two leg match convincingly. Daz should take light in the fact that he wasn't far behind. If the most consistent results took the top players to the final, then Daz's downfall was the opposite. Despite some excellent results he stumbled more often with some disappointing losses in-between. This resulted in goal difference weighing down on him and therefore resulting in a tough knock out stage draw. But overall he should be proud of his results in the competition. The same can be said for Bates who was one of the favourites, but eventually lost on aggregate by just one goal against Fillerose. He probably lacked the experience of other players who had stiffer competition in the group stages. This was probably due to the fact that Bates 2nd Group stage's main rivals meant to come from the Asian and Australian group which was our only problem group in the end. We had two good players come through but Bates probably needed a tougher test. This also wasn't helped by the disqualification to one of the top seeds Eddy who lied about his result against Fillerose (proved by EA Sports website). Eventually it was anyone's game between Bates and Fillerose, though the Briton should have been better prepared for that game. He probably only knew he was up against it when he was already 2-0 down in the first leg. As he says himself he hit the post on a few occasions so there was either some nerves to switch the direction ever so slightly off or misfortune. As we know luck always plays a role in sport and over two legs you need to make your own luck. Without scoring in the first leg Bates was staring at the exit door. The enigma Fillerose the number one seed proved that he is a top player. He's actually only lost to one player in this competition the eventual champion A Cos and lost to him three times. The two legs of the semi final and the 2nd Group stage. All three games were deservedly won without trouble by the American so its clear A Cos has Fillerose's number so far. If our memory serves us right the only other player who was there and abouts having a go at the crown was Bobby. But as you'd read in his report he was unfortunate to come up against Mills a player who's style is best suited to beat Bobby. It was a very convincing victory for Mills so Bobby knows he has a lot more work to do to finish at the top. Tactics can win you most games, but when you come up against a player with great skill and ability like Mills then even the best plans won't make a difference. Dyssie proved to be the best darkhorse in the competition actually beating eventual champion A Cos in the first group stage and coming close in the playoff first leg. And Derdocar will be kicking himself, and is forcing me to remind Dyssie that he was beating him 1-0 until the 88th minute. Even with that game going into extra time Derdocar knew all he needed was to take it to penalties to have the better of Dyssie on points, but the American stole it at the end of extra time to book his place in the knock out round. At least he saved Derdocar a few tennis scorelines in the final stage. So, thats a wrap with our feedback on the results, we will keep in touch with other notes, including news (to come) about 'Season 2'. Manjovovic __________________ http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/f...ournament.html Last edited by Manjovovic; 30-12-2008 at 10:49 PM.

31-12-2008, 03:36 PM	#931 (permalink)
Manjovovic Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 706	Season 2 Season 2 Update Running this competition has proved to be much more time consuming than we initially realised. This was particularly the case for the 1st group stage where most players constantly needed updates on Xbox Live with regard to their fixtures, rescheduling their times, finding their opponents and explaining to them how to setup their matches. From the 2nd Group stage most of the players were already used to the system and there were many gamers who knew how to manage their fixtures themselves. Though, there were still some players who went all the way in the knock out stage who required chasing behind. A European time zone competition would be much easier to handle, but since we've welcomed players Far East into Asia/Australasia and west into the United States then its always challenging to bring players together. Of course there's no problem with players from Africa since the time zone is the same as Europe. In order for the competition to function in the group stages we needed to be online from noon time all the way to midnight, and for American matches past midnight to 2am. It was an enjoyable experience and ideal fun for the December holiday period. But we do have priorities outside FIFA09 to turn our attention to from January. This would mean for the next season to be possible we will need additional help. Otherwise running the competition outside a holiday season will be impossible. Of course we are running this competition without financial resources, so when we recommend assistance then such volunteers would have to work with us on the same volunteer basis. We recommend four online volunteers, two of whom can also work offline. The online volunteers will need to work in shifts to come online and see to all players needs according to the schedule as explained above. From these at least two of them will be awarded power to write official updates of results and make important decisions with rulings on the forum. Manjovovic will also work offline and will be in charge of tournament format, the draw, schedules and the final decision on disputes. Derdocar says he probably won't be available for online management, and due to his other commitments probably won't be available to participate in Season 2 either. Those gamers who are interested in helping with organising the tournament should write to Manjovovic by private message on this forum and we can make arrangements together. With the World Open finishing only just yesterday, it's best to space out competitions such as how FIFA has the World Cup once in four years. Though in virtual reality it would have to be sooner than 4 years We've been thinking about a minimum of a one month break for players to get back to everything else they have to do in life. But we recommend a 2 month break. Some gamers can then practice in February after a good break in January. This would mean entrees will have to be dealt with toward the end of February. Season 2 competition would start at the beginning of March. Though, we must make it clear that this is only possible with the required assistance in place. It is also possible that after helping setting up Season 2, Manjovovic could hand over the reins to one of the assisters to act as the main organiser. This is likely to happen since Manjovovic could well go back to his home country in March. Due to all the logistical factors involved it would be impossible to go on and its clear that somebody else will have to take over in time. But Manjovovic will be here to help setup Season 2 and basically "train" those providing assistance to take over. We think it won't be difficult and is highly possible if somebody else who's dedicated and has the required time is also passionate enough to carry through Season 2. The whole tournament itself should last 2 or 3 weeks. In the meantime if the rest of you guys are hungry for more competition you are obviously welcome to setup your own tournaments before the next event. So that's the wrap on Season 2. We wish we could setup more competitions before Fifa2010 but life outside Xbox has to move on. If nobody is able to assist in the running of Season 2 then we are afraid it won't be possible at all. But, who knows maybe one of you can set this up themselves one of these months. Using some of our ideas you could then take it further and maybe create an even bigger tournament. Who knows? Whatever happens and wherever we are in the world we will keep in touch on this forum from time to time. And wish you luck in FIFA09 and other competitions. Most importantly we advise you, especially now with Season 1 of the World Open over, to set your controllers down, switch off the Xbox and immerse yourself into life. Ciao Manjovovic __________________ http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/f...ournament.html

02-01-2009, 07:29 PM	#934 (permalink)
afroCHRIS Forum Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ☞ HERE ☜ Posts: 4,641	Any chance of joining this set up? __________________

26-01-2009, 08:56 PM	#936 (permalink)
Manjovovic Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 706	There will be an update in a few weeks time, depending on responses to the Season 2 Update post above. __________________ http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/f...ournament.html

30-12-2008, 10:14 PM	#926 (permalink)
B1gBat3s Rookie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Donny Donny Donnnaaay! Posts: 219	i honoustly think the onli reason he won was most likely because he used man utd... i bet he did the following things: >>ronaldo and rooney up front on there own >>5 in defence; patrice evra playing as LCB or RCB >>lofted through ball to ronaldo every chance >>Custom tactics: Aggression and pressure on 100 Ino its all tactics but its really annoying and noobish lol

27-01-2009, 01:58 AM	#937 (permalink)
daz343 Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 773	im well up for the 2nd season i want revenge lol will there b a seeding system based on last seasons results

28-01-2009, 02:40 PM	#938 (permalink)
B1gBat3s Rookie Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Donny Donny Donnnaaay! Posts: 219	im up for season 2... as for helping out i will be able to watch games for you if im online just aslong as its max 1 game a night or so and i could do the match report after the game, i also have a job tho so i wont be available sum nights that might be useful and if some of the last 8 (of the last tourny) helped out that would also be nice