ONLINE FORUM OPEN CUP (tournament)

[Costantini09]

A cos09 (Juventus) 16 - espitia805 (Bayern) 1

after 90 minutes

[RefleXD]

J P14YLE (Newcastle Utd) 1-4 Reflex Dynamic (Man Utd)
Played today cause coudn't play yesterday

[bobby063]

I thought you were banned after you claimed to beat me today???
and fixed a match against a player you did not even play?

[RefleXD]

15 December
-4pm Central European Time
Bobby063 (England) 1-0 Reflex Dynamic (Holland)
-5pm Central European Time
Reflex Dynamic (Holland) 4-1 J P14YLE (United Kingdom)
16 December
-4pm Central European Time
XO Heartcore (United Kingdom) 2-0 Reflex Dynamic (Holland)
-5pm Central European Time
Derdocar (Austria) 1-4 Reflex Dynamic (Holland)

[Manjovovic]

Originally Posted by Costantini09

A cos09 (Juventus) 16 - espitia805 (Bayern) 1

after 90 minutes

Was this match five/six minutes per half?

[daz343]

yh online rankings dont mean nothing i myself am ranked 4109 and in my group ive beat 2 high ranked players its who plays well on the day in the groups but the 2 legs is a different story

[Manjovovic]

Originally Posted by RefleXD

15 December
-4pm Central European Time
Bobby063 (England) 1-0 Reflex Dynamic (Holland)
-5pm Central European Time
Reflex Dynamic (Holland) 4-1 J P14YLE (United Kingdom)
16 December
-4pm Central European Time
XO Heartcore (United Kingdom) 2-0 Reflex Dynamic (Holland)
-5pm Central European Time
Derdocar (Austria) 1-4 Reflex Dynamic (Holland)

So, are you now saying you lost 2-0 to XO heartcore? You earlier said you won 2-0 and heartcore eventually changed his tune to say he won 3-1 (a match that didn't happen)

[RefleXD]

Wow man ur low i played XO Heartcore he was online his computer is broke look in my friendslist so u can see it - 2. THE MATCH AGAINST BOBBY IS NEVER PLAYED CAUSE HE SEND ME A MESSAGE WHIT SORRY THAT I DIDN'T TURNED UP YESTERDAY? I DIDN'T SEND HIM SOMETHING HE WAS ASKING ME FOR RESCHEDULING IT FOR TODAY MY FRIEND, so don't bother me whit disqualifing me cause its bull****..!

[RefleXD]

If won clearly from him but its oke Bobby nice match 5 defence players 2 midfield (defenders) good game m8 get ur counter much!

[Manjovovic]

Originally Posted by RefleXD

J P14YLE (Newcastle Utd) 1-4 Reflex Dynamic (Man Utd)
Played today cause coudn't play yesterday

JP has already been awarded full points for this game because of your disqualification earlier in the night

[RefleXD]

Derdocar its fine but how u fixed this tournament is lalalala look this www.tinyleague.com and whats how tournaments role in their this is lalalala.

[bobby063]

Yes that is true I politely asked you if was ok to complete the fixture, I even forwarded that same message to derdorcar for complete transparancy.

And the thing is if you would have said 'no you should have been there yesterday' then fair play I wouldn't have had much of a case, but you didn't you were polite, kind and understanding to my situation UNTIL I beat you! And I genuinely held back out of politeness as I respected the fact you played the fixture, If i would have know I would have really tried to put lots of goals past you, when in fact I scored 1 and sat back occasionally counter attacking.

[Manjovovic]

Originally Posted by RefleXD

Wow man ur low i played XO Heartcore he was online his computer is broke look in my friendslist so u can see it - 2. THE MATCH AGAINST BOBBY IS NEVER PLAYED CAUSE HE SEND ME A MESSAGE WHIT SORRY THAT I DIDN'T TURNED UP YESTERDAY? I DIDN'T SEND HIM SOMETHING HE WAS ASKING ME FOR RESCHEDULING IT FOR TODAY MY FRIEND, so don't bother me whit disqualifing me cause its bull****..!

so, you're saying Bobby's report is a lie? Read the last page which explains your disqualification. Bobby's report was confirmed with online stats. You are allowed to refute any of the statements in the post about your ban. But it will be very difficult to convince anyone you wasn't cheating with the case already going through what happened in detail.

[RefleXD]

1 word restart tournament nothing is going right

[RefleXD]

1 i didn't say yes or no to Bobby.
2 ask XO Heartcore please.
3 im not a cheater im polite guy

[bobby063]

My tactics are according to the team I am facing.

Man U = 5 defenders 2 midfield 3 attack to counter attack against long balls over the top using Ronaldo.

Could you score with a team with the best player on the game? No..my tactics worked against your team, so I won the match, without having to really do much.

If I am hoffenheim I play a to my teams strenghts not the opponants BUT I never play with hoffenheim if I am facing a 'super' team like Man U.

I will play you again reflex if you like...i would play you over and over again if I wouldn't be accused of boosting. Fact is you are just not good enough to beat me even though you tried to lump the ball to ronaldo playing as a striker. The reason I play that formation against Man U is because it exposed Ronaldo abusers, good players can beat me when I play the 5 2 3 as they are good enough to break it down or try something other than a ball over the top to the over used ronaldo.

[Manjovovic]

Originally Posted by bobby063

Yes that is true I politely asked you if was ok to complete the fixture, I even forwarded that same message to derdorcar for complete transparancy.

And the thing is if you would have said 'no you should have been there yesterday' then fair play I wouldn't have had much of a case, but you didn't you were polite, kind and understanding to my situation UNTIL I beat you! And I genuinely held back out of politeness as I respected the fact you played the fixture, If i would have know I would have really tried to put lots of goals past you, when in fact I scored 1 and sat back occasionally counter attacking.

Actually Reflex wasn't doing just you a favour by rescheduling the game because he also didn't show up for that game with you. So you both would have got zero points. Now that it was rescheduled by you and Bobby (which is correct within the rules where players can rearrange matches before Friday morning) Bobby won fairly and its been one stunt after another by Reflex to try and avoid defeat. The sad thing Reflex is that by losing this game you would still go through to the next round, but by providing false reports (against the rules) you've accounted for your own downfall in doing something clearly against the rules.

[Manjovovic]

Originally Posted by RefleXD

1 i didn't say yes or no to Bobby.
2 ask XO Heartcore please.
3 im not a cheater im polite guy

If you read the post on your disqualification in page 10 then you will find that we did communicate with XO. And, the version of your reported scores are not even clear up to now. Do you even know the made up score now yourself? Or what will it be next? We suggest you rest your case. We don't tolerate this type of dishonesty as we want a proper sporting atmosphere for the second group stage. Even Fillerose was disqualified for similar reasons so whether you're seeded one or 31, you have to respect your fellow players.

[RefleXD]

I got Pictures against XO Heartcore AND J p4 ...

[Manjovovic]

Originally Posted by RefleXD

I got Pictures against XO Heartcore AND J p4 ...

If you're not guilty of match fixing the Heartcore result (which you are) and still guilty of dishonest reports against Bobby, then you are still disqualified. It seems the only difference is how dishonest you were. We would still like to see those pictures though.

By the way the Jp4 match doesnt count as you were already disqualified before that game. So Jp4 is lucky if that result is true anyway.

And you're conveniently avoiding the Bobby result. By the way you still didn't even say conclusively which version of the result you support against XO Heartcore. Even Heartcore gave two versions. So the photo can't prove anything

[Manjovovic]

ReflexD,

If you want to hang around on this thread you need to bring proper reports and a real appeal. If you are just spamming this thread without meaningful information we will report you to the mods to have you banned, so be careful.

[Manjovovic]

Bobby,

We are sorry this guy is allowed to post his repeated dishonest versions against you. Since we are not mods on this website we cannot ban him from this website. But you can block his messages on Xbox Live if you wish. Don't worry about it. There's always one or two. That's why we have rules for such situations.

Ciao

[RefleXD]

Well i am not taking care of this tournament anymore so good luck whit ur other disqualifications m8 cause their coud be only 1 winner and thats u right? Bobby Good luck sorry for al this.. Derdocar lalalala, Heartcore lalalala, J 4 PIPU lalalala..

[bobby063]

Its more than ok, I am stuck on a night shift so this thread has provided me something to do for the past couple of hours.

ReflexD - if you google 'internet troll' I think this would provide an accurate description of yourself, I don't believe you ever had good intentions UNLESS you would have beaten everybody(which you are nowhere near good enough to do). I hope you grow up soon regardless of your 'age' your maturity is comparable to a small child. Enough said, again this has been entertaining and if I didn't have anything better to do I would not have responded to such a fool.

Manjovoic you deserve a lot of cerdit towards the oraganisation and implementation of this tourno I admire and respect your patience in dealing with such people.

Bobby

[Mikesims21]

Sims17 (Manchester United) 4 - 0 Dyssie (Inter)