school and UNI shootings in the USA (right to bare arms ridiculous!!) - Page 2

zzwampen · 16-02-2008, 12:53 AM

so you don't think it's weird or wrong that 36 percent of the american population have access to a gun?

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 12:54 AM

Weird?

No, it's part of our rights and laws. Why would it be weird? It makes perfect sense actually.

Wrong?

In some cases yes, and some no.

Turtle · 16-02-2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by skinjim123

Bno one goes shooting students in britain.

No they just get a knife and kill a pupil i have heard on the news before

Rumblerege · 16-02-2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Y R U so Chunky

No, it's part of our rights and laws. Why would it be weird? It makes perfect sense actually.

You think it makes sense to sell lethal weapons in the supermarket?

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 12:57 AM

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You think it makes sense to sell lethal weapons in the supermarket?

If you have an ID and the proper identification, then yes.

And where I live, there are no "supermarkets" that sell guns.

zzwampen · 16-02-2008, 01:01 AM

so do you think that the high rate of fire arm homicide is a fair price to pay for the right to be armed?

godsend · 16-02-2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Y R U so Chunky

Weird?

No, it's part of our rights and laws. Why would it be weird? It makes perfect sense actually.

Wrong?

In some cases yes, and some no.

From what i understand its not your right to carry arms in everyday life,check out your Constitution,im sure it states agianst armed aggressors meaning another invading nation....highly unlikely though

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 01:03 AM

If you have proper ID, you can carry a gun in most public places. It's very rare, but it is possible.

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by zzwampen

so do you think that the high rate of fire arm homicide is a fair price to pay for the right to be armed?

I don't think it's right or wrong, it's just part of this country. It was founded on freedoms and rights like that.

Again, no one is forced to live here.

zzwampen · 16-02-2008, 01:08 AM

well i find those rights and freedoms quite obsolete...i mean it's the 21th century..

btw do you have a gun?

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 01:10 AM

A water gun

Are those illegal in your country too?

godsend · 16-02-2008, 01:13 AM

No but imitation guns, by law, must have a red tip on the muzzle

zzwampen · 16-02-2008, 01:14 AM

yes

another thing that i find quite funny is that you can buy guns and all that, but they are so scared to say a "bad" word on tv or show something remotely related to nudity

zzwampen · 16-02-2008, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Y R U so Chunky

A water gun

Are those illegal in your country too?

and why do you think it's cowardly to have sensible laws regarding fire arms

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by zzwampen

well i find those rights and freedoms quite obsolete...i mean it's the 21th century..

I can think of many rights and freedoms that are "obsolete" in many countries.

I think it should be waayyyyyy more difficult to obtain a drivers license in most countries. And cars kill way more people than guns do.

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by zzwampen

and why do you think it's cowardly to have sensible laws regarding fire arms

I said that?

zzwampen · 16-02-2008, 01:19 AM

ok not cowardly...maybe "over-controlling" or something

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by zzwampen

ok not cowardly...maybe "over-controlling" or something

If it was my choice, I think it should be everyman for himself and murder should be legal.

Hows that for "rights"?

The best of the best survive.

Rumblerege · 16-02-2008, 01:27 AM

You don't think that all people have equal rights? the right to live in safety, thats just as bad as hitler.

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 01:29 AM

When did I say people shouldn't have equal rights in that post?

and thats not even nearly the same thing as hitler. Hitler descriminated due to religon/race.

zzwampen · 16-02-2008, 01:32 AM

well of course the physical and mental abilities is different from person to person...so people wouldn't have the same rights in your "everyman for himself" society

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 01:43 AM

Yes they would.

They have the right to do whatever they want. Doesn't mean they can though. Two different things.

skinjim · 16-02-2008, 02:24 AM

yes ive read through all the posts but Y R U so chunky you still havent explained why you should have the right to bare arms. In what way from this constitutional right does this help you gain anything apart from defend yourself from another person who has a gun because of the right to bare arms.

all sounds like a vicious circle to me, i may be wrong

Y R U so Chunky · 16-02-2008, 02:51 AM

If someone breaks into my house to harm me, I have the right to defend myself and blast that ************ in the head.

Got it now?

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16-02-2008, 01:08 AM	#35 (permalink)
zzwampen EA Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 14,689	well i find those rights and freedoms quite obsolete...i mean it's the 21th century.. btw do you have a gun? __________________ Djurgården teaches Juventus how to play football.

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Y R U so Chunky Elite Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chunkyville Posts: 8,275	A water gun Are those illegal in your country too? __________________

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zzwampen EA Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 14,689	yes another thing that i find quite funny is that you can buy guns and all that, but they are so scared to say a "bad" word on tv or show something remotely related to nudity __________________ Djurgården teaches Juventus how to play football.

16-02-2008, 01:19 AM	#42 (permalink)
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16-02-2008, 01:29 AM	#45 (permalink)
Y R U so Chunky Elite Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chunkyville Posts: 8,275	When did I say people shouldn't have equal rights in that post? and thats not even nearly the same thing as hitler. Hitler descriminated due to religon/race. __________________

16-02-2008, 01:32 AM	#46 (permalink)
zzwampen EA Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 14,689	well of course the physical and mental abilities is different from person to person...so people wouldn't have the same rights in your "everyman for himself" society __________________ Djurgården teaches Juventus how to play football.

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Y R U so Chunky Elite Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chunkyville Posts: 8,275	Yes they would. They have the right to do whatever they want. Doesn't mean they can though. Two different things. __________________

16-02-2008, 02:24 AM	#48 (permalink)
skinjim Forum Guru Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: wales Age: 18 Posts: 1,532	yes ive read through all the posts but Y R U so chunky you still havent explained why you should have the right to bare arms. In what way from this constitutional right does this help you gain anything apart from defend yourself from another person who has a gun because of the right to bare arms. all sounds like a vicious circle to me, i may be wrong

16-02-2008, 02:51 AM	#49 (permalink)
Y R U so Chunky Elite Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chunkyville Posts: 8,275	If someone breaks into my house to harm me, I have the right to defend myself and blast that ************ in the head. Got it now? __________________