Fifa 10 = Fifa Luck

Darkened · 21-11-2009, 07:59 PM

Hey this is my first post here.

Before you think I am going to give you a whining story then you are going to be wrong. I am just stating true facts

1. Defence

Online play Ranked match. To me players have different speeds different games, like seriously one match Rooney will run really slow and defenders catch him with ease. But then like 1 game after he will be running twice as fast and the defender can't catch him at all. There is nothing to stop him from running 3 1/4 of the field and score.

2. Defence in the box

This is weird too. The opponent passes the ball around and passes it to a player, ( MY player is right in front of him, the player he is passing too) and I press X, Not even sprinting just a standing tackle.. The defender dosent even attempt to tackle. The player just pretty much walks through me, Come on THIS IS JOHN TERRY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT?

Basically the defence online is buggy as hell and never works properly. There will be players who will let the ball go right past them, there reactions are so bad it's no way near realistic. I am sure many of you have seen this and had defence bugs happen to you. It just dosen't make sense.

I thought Fifa09 was bad but these problems remind me of Fifa09

Players can outrun the whole team and you can't stop them. You shield the ball and still get tackled, even from behind.

There isn't much point in having 4star teams or anything else online, you go against Real, Barca or Manchester and you pretty much lose.

I think EA Games need to watch some football matches and record players and defence. I would love to show them!

Fact, 80% of the goals you score in fifa10 are just luck or because of the defence bug.

As for the advanced dribbling tutorial, what a load of bullcrap that is. Just an excuse to get tackled really...?

I hope Fifa11 will be less buggy and every goal you score will require skill and not luck. (NOT TO MENTION REALISTIC)

Thanks for reading, sorry if non of you agree with me. But I am sure you will see where I am coming from

- Dark

MisterKick · 21-11-2009, 08:33 PM

oh no..... FIFA 10 is the best football game out yet because it REWARDS skill whereas FIFA 09 u could just jam the triangle button for gols

Darkened · 21-11-2009, 09:57 PM

Nah you are missing the point in what I just wrote.

jamiemanu1234 · 21-11-2009, 10:03 PM

gd post m8

rossyboi_3403 · 21-11-2009, 10:07 PM

I agree with Darkened. In Fifa 09 I could go on 20+ game winning streaks, now I'd be lucky to get 7+ and I didn't get lalalala over night. Defence definitely needs sorting out - mind you do play with Liverpool against barca/madrid half the freekin time so probs explains it!

C_dub108 · 21-11-2009, 11:08 PM

True facts eh? Interesting. I have absolutely no idea where you are coming from.

And at the end of the day, what is football if not luck, wrapped in skill and imagination. I pity you.

C_dub108 · 21-11-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rossyboi_3403

I agree with Darkened. In Fifa 09 I could go on 20+ game winning streaks, now I'd be lucky to get 7+ and I didn't get lalalala over night. Defence definitely needs sorting out - mind you do play with Liverpool against barca/madrid half the freekin time so probs explains it!

and 20+ game winning streaks are realistic? eh? people cry out for a more balanced and realistic game and when they get it they whine like someone stole their dog. Sorry if you are not mopping up this go round', try again later.

C_dub108 · 21-11-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterKick

oh no..... FIFA 10 is the best football game out yet because it REWARDS skill whereas FIFA 09 u could just jam the triangle button for gols

You are exactly right m8, but peeps dont want any realism, god forbid they lose a game or dont go on a 50 game winning streak. whingers.

Titi_Henry14 · 21-11-2009, 11:25 PM

Only real problem is lag, seriously thats the only time I lose.

The Fifa lag-o-meter is iffy at best.

Darkened · 22-11-2009, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C_dub108

You are exactly right m8, but peeps dont want any realism, god forbid they lose a game or dont go on a 50 game winning streak. whingers.

You obviously didn't read what I written then

Fifa 10 is far from realistic, players don't let players run past them in real life, let alone let a ball run past them and stand still for 4 seconds

Darkened · 22-11-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by C_dub108

and 20+ game winning streaks are realistic? eh? people cry out for a more balanced and realistic game and when they get it they whine like someone stole their dog. Sorry if you are not mopping up this go round', try again later.

Zomg we have a keyboard warrior

darkOnePL · 22-11-2009, 12:35 AM

your wins or losts are mostly based on

1) lag (lattency)
2) poor A.I momentum
3) your luck
4) your skills

ad1) P2P , Here is the source of the problem
ad2 )What makes sense of online game, leaderboards etc, if you have no power over the game , if you can't play it as you can and A.I, momentum, CPU, script, code, program (it's all the same) deals the cards in a haphazard way. FIFA 10 has just awfully unbalanced AI, that is all.

32 skill level - 500 lost , 150 wins

BarcaOG · 22-11-2009, 12:35 AM

I absolutely agree with you. Its as if some matches you are destined to lose regardless of how you play, and some you are destined to win.

Darkened · 22-11-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BarcaOG

I absolutely agree with you. Its as if some matches you are destined to lose regardless of how you play, and some you are destined to win.

Pretty much, I can do the same thing on every match. Sometimes I will miss all the time hit the post and stuff, then sometimes it does straight in

slayer2387 · 22-11-2009, 12:44 AM

i experience the same things when i loose but i put it down to my own poor play some time also i tend to knacker my players out way too quickly the ammount of times ive been winning 70 mins gone then end up loosing is unreal but down to my poor play

IHateAssistedIdo · 22-11-2009, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterKick

oh no..... FIFA 10 is the best football game out yet because it REWARDS skill whereas FIFA 09 u could just jam the triangle button for gols

hahahaha pmsl Rewards skill.

NinjaDzeko · 22-11-2009, 02:27 AM

Personally i think the game is fine okay there is some form of error's the goalkeepers can be somewhat dimwitted at times but fortunately it hasn't cost me dearly.

I've been on 7+ game streaks a couple of times all because i stuck with passing and playing it educatedly and not haphazardedly.

I think when i've lost a few games i do the most easiest and simpliest thing in the world i turn it off and play something different for a while then come back to it after a day or so then i find to be on winning ways.

The game has a few mistakes an errors but hey doesnt most games nowadays?

In terms of the scripting fiasco i think its a load of bile sometimes luck isnt with you in certain matches i can remember a few instances where i've cracked the post about 3 or 4 times until i've scored an grind out the win

i think its mostly an over-reaction

Quicksilver_2009 · 22-11-2009, 08:56 AM

actually i dont really know of the defensive problems your talking about, i actually think they made this game too defensive.... your always rushed on the ball forced to make ping pong passes, getting sick of seeing chip goals all the time, tell me ea how is that common in a football game??? balllalalala the ref way too much as well no realistic, and the game styles are predictable, 1 two passing=, very little long shots and goal box action, collisions are minimal and the speed is way too fast, shotlalalala the post far too often and the 360 degree dribbling has created more stoppages from mistimed tackles, id like to see new attcking moves to compensate for the high pressure defenses and better goalkeepers

LiamB_21 · 22-11-2009, 12:35 PM

Completely agree.

EA have sacrificed skill for realism, which is what many people want.

But I want a game of skill, where you can thrash teams 6-0 if you're better than them, not getting a 1-0 lead, then losing the ability to score again, and then conceding a late goal due to the defensive "glitch" that you speak of.

IMO if both parties are trying their hardest to win online, both using 5 star team, the score will nearly always be a 1 goal win to either team, or a draw.

Which goes to the team with better momentum/less lag etc...

Well, we're stuck with this bile game for now though, EA won't patch it, so we'll have static defenders that won't put in a tackle (Whether the staic-ness is down to lag, or the scripting/momentum I don't know) all the time now.

Hopefully Fifa 11 will go back to being skill based with the mount of complaints on here.

but I know one thing for sure, I'm not buying Fifa 11 at launch next time. I'll wait to see other people's opinions.
I don't want to spend another £40 on a luckfest game

21-11-2009, 07:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Darkened Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 18	Fifa 10 = Fifa Luck Hey this is my first post here. Before you think I am going to give you a whining story then you are going to be wrong. I am just stating true facts 1. Defence Online play Ranked match. To me players have different speeds different games, like seriously one match Rooney will run really slow and defenders catch him with ease. But then like 1 game after he will be running twice as fast and the defender can't catch him at all. There is nothing to stop him from running 3 1/4 of the field and score. 2. Defence in the box This is weird too. The opponent passes the ball around and passes it to a player, ( MY player is right in front of him, the player he is passing too) and I press X, Not even sprinting just a standing tackle.. The defender dosent even attempt to tackle. The player just pretty much walks through me, Come on THIS IS JOHN TERRY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT? Basically the defence online is buggy as hell and never works properly. There will be players who will let the ball go right past them, there reactions are so bad it's no way near realistic. I am sure many of you have seen this and had defence bugs happen to you. It just dosen't make sense. I thought Fifa09 was bad but these problems remind me of Fifa09 Players can outrun the whole team and you can't stop them. You shield the ball and still get tackled, even from behind. There isn't much point in having 4star teams or anything else online, you go against Real, Barca or Manchester and you pretty much lose. I think EA Games need to watch some football matches and record players and defence. I would love to show them! Fact, 80% of the goals you score in fifa10 are just luck or because of the defence bug. As for the advanced dribbling tutorial, what a load of bullcrap that is. Just an excuse to get tackled really...? I hope Fifa11 will be less buggy and every goal you score will require skill and not luck. (NOT TO MENTION REALISTIC) Thanks for reading, sorry if non of you agree with me. But I am sure you will see where I am coming from - Dark Last edited by Darkened; 21-11-2009 at 10:19 PM.

21-11-2009, 10:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
rossyboi_3403 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Age: 20 Posts: 242	I agree with Darkened. In Fifa 09 I could go on 20+ game winning streaks, now I'd be lucky to get 7+ and I didn't get lalalala over night. Defence definitely needs sorting out - mind you do play with Liverpool against barca/madrid half the freekin time so probs explains it! __________________

21-11-2009, 11:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
C_dub108 Forum Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: A T L Posts: 3,342	True facts eh? Interesting. I have absolutely no idea where you are coming from. And at the end of the day, what is football if not luck, wrapped in skill and imagination. I pity you. __________________

21-11-2009, 11:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
Titi_Henry14 Forum Guru Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: US Posts: 1,215	Only real problem is lag, seriously thats the only time I lose. The Fifa lag-o-meter is iffy at best. __________________

22-11-2009, 12:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
darkOnePL Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 46	game for blind, waste of time your wins or losts are mostly based on 1) lag (lattency) 2) poor A.I momentum 3) your luck 4) your skills ad1) P2P , Here is the source of the problem ad2 )What makes sense of online game, leaderboards etc, if you have no power over the game , if you can't play it as you can and A.I, momentum, CPU, script, code, program (it's all the same) deals the cards in a haphazard way. FIFA 10 has just awfully unbalanced AI, that is all. 32 skill level - 500 lost , 150 wins

21-11-2009, 08:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
MisterKick Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver,Canada Posts: 105	oh no..... FIFA 10 is the best football game out yet because it REWARDS skill whereas FIFA 09 u could just jam the triangle button for gols

21-11-2009, 09:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Darkened Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 18	Nah you are missing the point in what I just wrote.

21-11-2009, 10:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
jamiemanu1234 Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 518	gd post m8

22-11-2009, 12:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
BarcaOG Rookie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 80	I absolutely agree with you. Its as if some matches you are destined to lose regardless of how you play, and some you are destined to win.

22-11-2009, 12:44 AM	#15 (permalink)
slayer2387 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2	i experience the same things when i loose but i put it down to my own poor play some time also i tend to knacker my players out way too quickly the ammount of times ive been winning 70 mins gone then end up loosing is unreal but down to my poor play __________________

22-11-2009, 02:27 AM	#17 (permalink)
NinjaDzeko Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: London England Posts: 59	Personally i think the game is fine okay there is some form of error's the goalkeepers can be somewhat dimwitted at times but fortunately it hasn't cost me dearly. I've been on 7+ game streaks a couple of times all because i stuck with passing and playing it educatedly and not haphazardedly. I think when i've lost a few games i do the most easiest and simpliest thing in the world i turn it off and play something different for a while then come back to it after a day or so then i find to be on winning ways. The game has a few mistakes an errors but hey doesnt most games nowadays? In terms of the scripting fiasco i think its a load of bile sometimes luck isnt with you in certain matches i can remember a few instances where i've cracked the post about 3 or 4 times until i've scored an grind out the win i think its mostly an over-reaction __________________ My 11

22-11-2009, 08:56 AM	#18 (permalink)
Quicksilver_2009 Forum Guru Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,562	actually i dont really know of the defensive problems your talking about, i actually think they made this game too defensive.... your always rushed on the ball forced to make ping pong passes, getting sick of seeing chip goals all the time, tell me ea how is that common in a football game??? balllalalala the ref way too much as well no realistic, and the game styles are predictable, 1 two passing=, very little long shots and goal box action, collisions are minimal and the speed is way too fast, shotlalalala the post far too often and the 360 degree dribbling has created more stoppages from mistimed tackles, id like to see new attcking moves to compensate for the high pressure defenses and better goalkeepers __________________ OUR CLUB TEAM MAKES 20 GAME WINNING STREAKS LOOK EASIER THEN ORDERING A CHEESEBURGER WITH CHEESE! THE ULTIMATE TEAM KING3rd overall in 09 PS3

22-11-2009, 12:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
LiamB_21 Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 953	Completely agree. EA have sacrificed skill for realism, which is what many people want. But I want a game of skill, where you can thrash teams 6-0 if you're better than them, not getting a 1-0 lead, then losing the ability to score again, and then conceding a late goal due to the defensive "glitch" that you speak of. IMO if both parties are trying their hardest to win online, both using 5 star team, the score will nearly always be a 1 goal win to either team, or a draw. Which goes to the team with better momentum/less lag etc... Well, we're stuck with this bile game for now though, EA won't patch it, so we'll have static defenders that won't put in a tackle (Whether the staic-ness is down to lag, or the scripting/momentum I don't know) all the time now. Hopefully Fifa 11 will go back to being skill based with the mount of complaints on here. but I know one thing for sure, I'm not buying Fifa 11 at launch next time. I'll wait to see other people's opinions. I don't want to spend another £40 on a luckfest game