Rushing keeper madness : How to make him stop?

hoolak · 14-10-2009, 08:53 AM

Yesterday I played a friend who hardly plays the game, but has found much luck in lobbing keepers in FIFA10. I personally, don't like to try until I see a clear chance I see the goalie rushing via my radar.

My friend does it every time he gets a chance and he admits that he is feeling like he is exploiting it, but laughs at my fury all the same. Yesterday was the first time I played him (and last

). He had 3 attempts and scored all by lobbing my stupid goalie.

Now, I've read that double tapping Triangle will prevent my goalie from rushing out, but in the midst of the action, this failed everytime. Now, I'm not sure if I'm over tapping the Triangle button in fury or what... I need help.

Would prefer it if keeper only rushed if the user held Triangle button.

Is it my timing, am I doing it wrong or is it something else?

Thanks

Dokeyfunk · 14-10-2009, 08:54 AM

i'm interested to know too. everytime i double tap, he seems to run out even faster...

Tramain87 · 14-10-2009, 09:01 AM

keepers are always off of their lines, this needs a patch and the leaderboards reset.

Velaa · 14-10-2009, 09:09 AM

Elmander done it twice to me in MM. Putting me 3-1 down, and I was Arsenal. Stupid lalalalalala. I only drew 3-3 aswell

hoolak · 14-10-2009, 09:11 AM

I think having the goalies on somekind of Auto-Rush mode is poor design. Hold Triangle/Y button to bring him out would suffice.

Hayesy83 · 14-10-2009, 09:11 AM

They say tapping triangle makes the keeper stay put but thats lala that does nothing for me i lobbed a guy 5 times in one match it was beyond a joke

hoolak · 14-10-2009, 09:16 AM

Sommetimes I'm too busy jostling or concetrating to position my defender in order to keep an attacker limited to a tighter angle for shooting to be start thinking about tapping Triangle/Y.

Agya · 14-10-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hayesy83

They say tapping triangle makes the keeper stay put but thats lala that does nothing for me i lobbed a guy 5 times in one match it was beyond a joke

I tried it too several times...

It doesn't look to be working...

cryobuzz75 · 14-10-2009, 09:23 AM

keeper ai needs serious fixing.

if the opponent starts a counter-attack quickly double-tap Y and then continue/start to press and/or jostle. good idea to call a second def just in case the attacker ran away.

buggy thing about the keepers is that when I want to rush him out he just takes his time till he decides to do so and then it's nearly always too late. double & triple saves are good but what is worrying is the first save because it's somehow not always timed right by the keeper ai. very buggy.

cryobuzz75 · 14-10-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Agya

I tried it too several times...

It doesn't look to be working...

it does work but the damn keeper then waits on the goal kick line!!

Hayesy83 · 14-10-2009, 09:27 AM

Alot of parries by keepers aswell resulting in tap ins and in 50/50s with players keepers always loose ball goes trough/under their arms

Keepers where better on 09 i would say

Hayesy83 · 14-10-2009, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryobuzz75

it does work but the damn keeper then waits on the goal kick line!!

just out of interest what console do you use?

Agya · 14-10-2009, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryobuzz75

it does work but the damn keeper then waits on the goal kick line!!

That's what i mean...No AI balance...

cryobuzz75 · 14-10-2009, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agya

That's what i mean...No AI balance...

that's an understatement!!

Whimpo · 14-10-2009, 09:31 AM

ea better change this

Jonpalace1976 · 14-10-2009, 09:38 AM

I have found a way to actually counter act this, there are two ways....... First one is the double tap of the Y on Xbox or triangle on PS3 as the attackers just come over your half way line, it does work and now my keeper tends to stay within his 6 yard box. The other way is to customise your tactics. I found that goalkeepers on teams that are put on higher pressing tend to rush out more than teams where the pressure on the tactics is set low (i.e 35) The best thing to do is practice with different varients of pressure and set it to how you feel comfortable. These custom tactics can also be used in online ranked matches and it is simply a case of allocating a direction on your D pad.

It does work, it is just trial and error and figuring out when the best time to double tap is. Remember it is quite a rapid double tap, if not done quick enough the keeper will rush out still unless the pressure is changed.

hoolak · 14-10-2009, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonpalace1976

I have found a way to actually counter act this, there are two ways....... First one is the double tap of the Y on Xbox or triangle on PS3 as the attackers just come over your half way line, it does work and now my keeper tends to stay within his 6 yard box. The other way is to customise your tactics. I found that goalkeepers on teams that are put on higher pressing tend to rush out more than teams where the pressure on the tactics is set low (i.e 35) The best thing to do is practice with different varients of pressure and set it to how you feel comfortable. These custom tactics can also be used in online ranked matches and it is simply a case of allocating a direction on your D pad.

It does work, it is just trial and error and figuring out when the best time to double tap is. Remember it is quite a rapid double tap, if not done quick enough the keeper will rush out still unless the pressure is changed.

I will try this.

Trying to remember to tell my goalie to stay on his line as opponents are coming over the halfway line is going to be fun

Are you happy with this mechanic or would you like EA to change it?

Jonpalace1976 · 14-10-2009, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoolak

I will try this.

Trying to remember to tell my goalie to stay on his line as opponents are coming over the halfway line is going to be fun

Are you happy with this mechanic or would you like EA to change it?

I actually don't mind it now I am used to it, although I wish they didn't rush out so quick. Goalkeepers don't rush out that quickly they just narrow the angle unless the player decides to come in close enough for the keeper to dive in at the players feet in proper football, that element is a little lost in this game, but all the same I find that the above works for me on Xbox 360 and I have had much closer games as a result. Also, to avoid one on ones through defenders being too high up the pitch set a custom formation of the formation you enjoy with the midfielders set back toward your goal a bit and also you 4 defenders set inside your penalty area and set your defenders to go backward when defending. It works and stops the silly one on ones with defenders being placed too high up the pitch, they sit a bit deeper.

Jonpalace1976 · 14-10-2009, 12:08 PM

Can someone let me know if my way of combatting the rushing keeper works??? I seem to think that the Pressure Attribute on the Custom Tactics isn't just linked to the Outfield players but to the goalkeeper rushing, hence why the goalie does it alot. Once I changed the pressure and tweaked the tactics the goalie seemed to stop rushing out so quickly, let me know if this works for you too!! As I say to stop this you seems to need to be under 35 pressure.

GreatNumberFour · 20-10-2009, 08:26 PM

BUMP.

Is this being addressed in the patch thing? It should be. This is a total joke. Why change something that isn't broke? Get it back to the proven system of him coming off his line when you tell him to.

Sure they say the double tap will make him go back, but it's stupid and takes the keepers forever to turn back.

Some of the people behind this game must have been true idiots.

Besty__1 · 20-10-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatNumberFour

BUMP.

Is this being addressed in the patch thing? It should be. This is a total joke. Why change something that isn't broke? Get it back to the proven system of him coming off his line when you tell him too.

Sure they say the double tap will make him go back, but it's stupid and takes the keepers forever to turn back.

Some of the people behind this game must have been true idiots.

no mate its not,no gameplay related stuff will be touched,its a joke tbh,the double tap does not work,dont understand how they just didnt leave it like 09

Jefo11 · 20-10-2009, 08:37 PM

Slightly annoying...

everytime my defender has the through ball covered my keeper rushes out...

the other day my keeper beat my defender to the ball, but when he reached it he ran back to the goal and left the ball... then i got lobbed!!! Grrrr

smeltzerinho · 09-11-2009, 06:52 PM

keeper retracting only works when you've brought him out yourself. I realise this is not at all helpful

Funk43 · 18-11-2009, 06:15 PM

i think the GK positioning is good and life like. The unrealistic part is the chipping. Very rarely a player tries this shot in reallife. Cantona did that one and was probably one of the greatest prem goals, because the skill is more difficult.
So i'd alter the difficulty of the chip. making chipping the keeper a very difficult to execute.

smeltzerinho · 18-11-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Funk43

i think the GK positioning is good and life like...

andddd this is where I stopped reading.

14-10-2009, 08:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
hoolak Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 9	Rushing keeper madness : How to make him stop? Yesterday I played a friend who hardly plays the game, but has found much luck in lobbing keepers in FIFA10. I personally, don't like to try until I see a clear chance I see the goalie rushing via my radar. My friend does it every time he gets a chance and he admits that he is feeling like he is exploiting it, but laughs at my fury all the same. Yesterday was the first time I played him (and last ). He had 3 attempts and scored all by lobbing my stupid goalie. Now, I've read that double tapping Triangle will prevent my goalie from rushing out, but in the midst of the action, this failed everytime. Now, I'm not sure if I'm over tapping the Triangle button in fury or what... I need help. Would prefer it if keeper only rushed if the user held Triangle button. Is it my timing, am I doing it wrong or is it something else? Thanks Last edited by hoolak; 14-10-2009 at 09:28 AM.

14-10-2009, 09:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tramain87 Rookie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sheffield, U.K Posts: 367	keepers are always off of their lines, this needs a patch and the leaderboards reset. __________________

14-10-2009, 09:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
Velaa Elite Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,587	Elmander done it twice to me in MM. Putting me 3-1 down, and I was Arsenal. Stupid lalalalalala. I only drew 3-3 aswell __________________ Sunderland 1-0 Arsenal

14-10-2009, 09:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
cryobuzz75 Forum Guru Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,141	keeper ai needs serious fixing. if the opponent starts a counter-attack quickly double-tap Y and then continue/start to press and/or jostle. good idea to call a second def just in case the attacker ran away. buggy thing about the keepers is that when I want to rush him out he just takes his time till he decides to do so and then it's nearly always too late. double & triple saves are good but what is worrying is the first save because it's somehow not always timed right by the keeper ai. very buggy. __________________

20-10-2009, 08:26 PM	#20 (permalink)
GreatNumberFour Forum Guru Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,892	BUMP. Is this being addressed in the patch thing? It should be. This is a total joke. Why change something that isn't broke? Get it back to the proven system of him coming off his line when you tell him to. Sure they say the double tap will make him go back, but it's stupid and takes the keepers forever to turn back. Some of the people behind this game must have been true idiots. __________________ - List of inaccurate kits in FIFA10 - Please add. - Rushing Keeper Madness, How to make him stop? - Sort this stupidity out, EA! Last edited by GreatNumberFour; 20-10-2009 at 08:36 PM.

14-10-2009, 08:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
Dokeyfunk Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 28 Posts: 52	i'm interested to know too. everytime i double tap, he seems to run out even faster...

14-10-2009, 09:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
hoolak Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 9	I think having the goalies on somekind of Auto-Rush mode is poor design. Hold Triangle/Y button to bring him out would suffice.

14-10-2009, 09:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
Hayesy83 Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Liverpool Posts: 673	They say tapping triangle makes the keeper stay put but thats lala that does nothing for me i lobbed a guy 5 times in one match it was beyond a joke

14-10-2009, 09:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
hoolak Rookie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 9	Sommetimes I'm too busy jostling or concetrating to position my defender in order to keep an attacker limited to a tighter angle for shooting to be start thinking about tapping Triangle/Y.

14-10-2009, 09:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
Hayesy83 Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Liverpool Posts: 673	Alot of parries by keepers aswell resulting in tap ins and in 50/50s with players keepers always loose ball goes trough/under their arms Keepers where better on 09 i would say

14-10-2009, 09:31 AM	#15 (permalink)
Whimpo Rookie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In A House Age: 19 Posts: 60	ea better change this

14-10-2009, 09:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
Jonpalace1976 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Croydon, Surrey, UK Age: 33 Posts: 248	I have found a way to actually counter act this, there are two ways....... First one is the double tap of the Y on Xbox or triangle on PS3 as the attackers just come over your half way line, it does work and now my keeper tends to stay within his 6 yard box. The other way is to customise your tactics. I found that goalkeepers on teams that are put on higher pressing tend to rush out more than teams where the pressure on the tactics is set low (i.e 35) The best thing to do is practice with different varients of pressure and set it to how you feel comfortable. These custom tactics can also be used in online ranked matches and it is simply a case of allocating a direction on your D pad. It does work, it is just trial and error and figuring out when the best time to double tap is. Remember it is quite a rapid double tap, if not done quick enough the keeper will rush out still unless the pressure is changed.

14-10-2009, 12:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jonpalace1976 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Croydon, Surrey, UK Age: 33 Posts: 248	Can someone let me know if my way of combatting the rushing keeper works??? I seem to think that the Pressure Attribute on the Custom Tactics isn't just linked to the Outfield players but to the goalkeeper rushing, hence why the goalie does it alot. Once I changed the pressure and tweaked the tactics the goalie seemed to stop rushing out so quickly, let me know if this works for you too!! As I say to stop this you seems to need to be under 35 pressure.

20-10-2009, 08:37 PM	#22 (permalink)
Jefo11 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 399	Slightly annoying... everytime my defender has the through ball covered my keeper rushes out... the other day my keeper beat my defender to the ball, but when he reached it he ran back to the goal and left the ball... then i got lobbed!!! Grrrr __________________ Thanks to DannyBoyWonder1 for the sig PSN: Jefo11

09-11-2009, 06:52 PM	#23 (permalink)
smeltzerinho Festive know-it-all Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In your face Posts: 20,369	keeper retracting only works when you've brought him out yourself. I realise this is not at all helpful __________________ Rutter Out

18-11-2009, 06:15 PM	#24 (permalink)
Funk43 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 18	i think the GK positioning is good and life like. The unrealistic part is the chipping. Very rarely a player tries this shot in reallife. Cantona did that one and was probably one of the greatest prem goals, because the skill is more difficult. So i'd alter the difficulty of the chip. making chipping the keeper a very difficult to execute.