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Old 05-10-2009, 08:47 PM   #4426 (permalink)
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EA lied, hands down. They said MM woul be good. Macel lied from the day FIFA 10 was announced. Not happyMarcel Khun mate.
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Can GK be sent off? 2 times i've dribbled the keeper on 1on1's, he fouled me, penalty, but only yellow? lalala?
I have been sent off as gk
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if you play the game on manager mode can you choose to control only your pro or do you have to control the whole team?
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Which is bad, but Allsvenskan is so lalalala it shouldn't even be in the game ahead of others that aren't, so Swedes should be content.
If Allsvenskan was so lalalala why the Allsvenskan is in the FIFA games since FIFA 98 : RTWC ?

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I don't think Swedish teams get into the ECC or EFA in FIFA, even though they do in real life.
No they don't, even if they did in the older FIFAs, and it seems like it's the same to the all the championships that are not played between august/september and may/june

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hi i play a club (elfsborg) thats 2 ½ star i have won allsvenskan and the swedish cup twice now but i still havent played champinos league the ept or what its called how can i play those games ?
I have the same problem with Valerenga in Norway as I've explained in a post...
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So is MM fun to play if you don't have an expectancy of 100% realistic football sim? Does the mode offer more of a captivating feeling than last year's, and does it keep you wanting to play?
I understand there is lots of bugs but is the general play thorough a season good?
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i have alredy started my manager mode career. when i download the update, will the change take place on my continued mm? does it improve the weather problem?
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i have alredy started my manager mode career. when i download the update, will the change take place on my continued mm? does it improve the weather problem?
No it doesn't improve the Weather problem. and yes the change will take place on your current mm.
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if you play the game on manager mode can you choose to control only your pro or do you have to control the whole team?
You have to control the whole team in manager mode.
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Do i download patches in Playstation Store or Xboxlive marketplace which ever system you have.?????????????????
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Do i download patches in Playstation Store or Xboxlive marketplace which ever system you have.?????????????????
360 does it automatically when you turn the game on, God knows about PS3 though.
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EA lied, hands down. They said MM woul be good. Macel lied from the day FIFA 10 was announced. Not happyMarcel Khun mate.
I've got to agree... And I don't see how they could not have spotted most of these bugs. Marcel himself said he was a couple of seasons into his own MM on here weeks ago, and I spotted most of the bugs after having played 10 games in my first MM. Manager Mode can not have been tested well before release, or else we wouldn't have had this problem.
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I've got to agree... And I don't see how they could not have spotted most of these bugs. Marcel himself said he was a couple of seasons into his own MM on here weeks ago, and I spotted most of the bugs after having played 10 games in my first MM. Manager Mode can not have been tested well before release, or else we wouldn't have had this problem.
acatlly im pretty sure marcel was on his 13th season. that mind blowing how he could not spot, i spoted numourous bugs on day1 on manager mode
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So is MM fun to play if you don't have an expectancy of 100% realistic football sim? Does the mode offer more of a captivating feeling than last year's, and does it keep you wanting to play?
I understand there is lots of bugs but is the general play thorough a season good?
No, it's not fun with the bugs, at all. And it's unbelievable how Marcel could play into his 13th season in the game mode and not spot these errors, or just spot them and ignore completely, when people are seeing all these bugs into their 10th games.
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acatlly im pretty sure marcel was on his 13th season. that mind blowing how he could not spot, i spoted numourous bugs on day1 on manager mode
its because he dont test it no 1 duz imo they just sim through it they must do to have not spotted glitches as obvious as thease
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I noticed a lalalala load of bugs after half an hour.
Does it take them a year to build a whole new game? No, they just uodate last year's version, so what's the problem!?!?? Why no testing!
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No, it's not fun with the bugs, at all. And it's unbelievable how Marcel could play into his 13th season in the game mode and not spot these errors, or just spot them and ignore completely, when people are seeing all these bugs into their 10th games.
Marcel has lost a ton of credibility with that. My god...
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its because he dont test it no 1 duz imo they just sim through it they must do to have not spotted glitches as obvious as thease
Wow! I still dont have the game and I have to admit that it sound like EA screw up big time. I believe everybody that complains about the game because I as a FIFA gamer have been unsatisfied since I started to play games on Next Gen consoles. Its always something... stadiums, uniforms, tournament format, wheather, throphy celebrations, ....many times I have felt that I could develop the perfect game. Unfortunately I dont have the game developing knowledge needed, but I know what a complete soccer game needs to have. We the fans know, not the EA nerds who call themselves soccer fans. EA has done great things in the past, but its funny how they forget. REMEMBER FIFA ROAD TO THE WORLD CUP 98? That was a complete soccer game! If FIFA 10 was just like that game just with the addition of the 360 dribble, trophy celebrations and next gen graphics I would be satisfied.
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I've put together a list of 50 bugs, glitches and issues with Manager Mode in its current state. If I've missed anything, please let me know and I'll add to it!

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1) The Manager Mode freezing bug (where you can’t progress without your console locking up) still occurs, usually preceded by this error. [SCREENSHOT]

2) It has been reported that with some people transfers “lock” altogether after a certain amount of seasons (being linked to a disc problem). [INCIDENT 1]

3) All teams below the Premier League have their tactics set to all-70s. Applies to other leagues/teams as well, see Australia, Brazil and others.

4) All assists are credited to the goalkeeper.

5) Players you loan out can be sold by the clubs you loaned them to.

6) Newly signed players vanish from your squad with no warning. They just disappear, and then if you look them up they’re playing for someone else.

7) When trying to sign a second loan player, sometimes I am told by the game that I already have two – when I only have one.

8) When signing two loan players, I then tried to (permanently) sign two free agents, and I’m told I can’t sign them because I “already have two players on loan”.

9) 90% of matches in England are played at night in the rain regardless of stadium choice. I’ve yet to see a match played in the daytime with sunny weather.

10) Seasonal changes don’t seem to affect the weather. So in England, in the summer, you will see rain and even snow with no games being played in sunshine.

11) Signing players is practically impossible, even when offering maximum wages and maximum bonuses, even if you can get their interest level up to 85%+. (Even if you start out as a manager with no reputation, you should be able to sign really poor players with no reputation who aren’t getting first-team football elsewhere.)

12) Signing your own players is just as difficult, regardless of how well the team is doing. They refuse to sign even when you offer the maximum wages allowed. But if you wait until the end of the season, you get the same screen you get in FIFA 09 where you can just tick a box to re-sign a player and they will sign for peanuts! Strange one!

13) The board sack you even if you occupy first place. You can expect to be fired at the mid-way point of the season if you lose a cup game, even if you’re in the top four of the league, especially in the Premier League. Even in the lower leagues, I’ve seen situations where games are won 6-0 every week for months and suddenly you’re fired the moment you draw 1-1.

14) When playing against teams who are better than you, your board always expect you to beat that team. I mostly play as a League 1 team, and if I’m beaten by a Championship or Premier League side I get a board comment that states I was “expected to win the game”, and occasionally you will get the sack for this. This may be because teams aren’t recognised in their correct division; for example, when losing against a team from the league above you, you will occasionally get a message that says you should have done better against “lower league opposition”.

15) The assistant manager, even when turned off, will swap your players around when you buy or sell a player. Player roles are also reset.

16) The assistant manager AI is terrible. It will choose players with no fitness (10%-20%) to play out of position, over players with 100% fitness who can play in that position. See below for more info.

17) The AI management of other clubs is terrible. Examples; Chelsea play Terry at LB with Cole at CB in the same match, Man Utd play Vidic and Ferdinand as LB/RB with Brown and Evra as CBs in the same match, Giggs gets played at LB occasionally, etc. etc. etc.

18) The effect of form is far too severe. It makes your team go up/down by a whole star rating within a few games, so with a 3 star team you can yoyo to 2 star and weeks later 4 star.

19) The form system seems to be totally random. I can win 2-3 games in a row by 2-3 goals and the form will get worse. A striker can score six goals in a game and his form will DROP!

20) I’ve seen one injury in two seasons; Marcel promised this lack of injuries – and especially this lack of SERIOUS injuries – was fixed for FIFA 10. This is simply not true. The most widely reported injury is whiplash, which isn't a common injury, and which only affects the player for a week.

21) Injuries don’t last for a long enough period of time. For example, a hamstring injury should keep a player out for a month – in FIFA 10 it’s a week.

22) When playing in the snow the ball used is white, which is incredibly difficult to see, and you can’t change the ball yourself.

23) Only 5 benched substitutes are allowed in FIFA 10 below the Premier League. All English league and cup competitions now allow 7 substitutes in reality.

24) Friendly games should allow 12 substitutes on the bench (and also you should be allowed to use all 12). Currently it’s restricted to 7 on the bench (with only 3 substitutions allowed).

25) Friendly games include matches against teams in your own division. This doesn’t usually happen in reality.

26) FA Cup games and the Community Shield game are played at night when they’re only ever played in the daytime now, including the final.

27) The shortlist was supposed to allow up to 20 players to be stored, but seems to only allow 10 players.

28) The overall rating of a player changes before/during the game. So if one of my strikers has an overall rating of 83 (including his form), when I pause the game and go to Team Management his rating can drop by 10+. What value is actually being used by the game? The pre-game rating or the paused-game rating?

29) Form should never affect physical attributes. For example, a striker who is on hot form wouldn’t see his pace increase.

30) Playing as a League 1/2 team, you have literally no fit players left after 3-5 games of the season. I don’t care how bad your fitness coach is, a group of professional players would have enough players fit to start a game after 3-5 games of the season. (You’re forced to spend £1m to upgrade your fitness coach to a realistic level.)

31) The league table that shows up at the start of each game is never correct (same as FIFA 09). It always shows you in 6th-9th position regardless of whether you’re in the top half or the bottom half of the table, and your opponents are shown in an incorrect position as well.

32) When simming games instead of playing them, two things to note. Firstly, the level of your fitness coach isn’t taken into account, so the players lose 25%-75% more fitness than they should. Secondly, when simming, you actually get to see some injuries! Plus they last for a decent period of time (e.g. metacarpal fracture, player out for four weeks)!

33) When you have a player injured, the game forces you to remove him from your team before going to the pre-game screen. You don't want to remove him from your first-choice team, you want to remove him at the pre-match team management screen, like in FIFA 09. But now you can't do that.

34) Often you are not told why a player has refused to sign for you. No explanation is given on the Negotiation History screen for these players and it seems that they are never permitted to sign for your club, for no apparent reason. You never get an explanation for the affected players.

35) Sometimes when trying to sign a player they’ll say e.g. they get a “bad vibe” from your current players. Try to sign them again next week and they’ll sign for you. Doesn’t make much sense.

36) You can list a player for sale/loan who is garbage, e.g. 42 overall when the rest of the players in your squad/division are 60+, and instantly you get offers from the top teams in your division/country for him. Sometimes even top-flight teams from other countries make an offer; they have no possible reason to loan in a player who is literally twice as bad as any other player they have. It seems that every player you ever list you MUST receive an offer for, even if they are terrible, and it’s always a good team that has no need for a poor player which shows interest.

37) As a manager with a reputation level of half-a-star, you sometimes get comments from the board that “a manager of your calibre should be performing better”.

38) You lose respect with the board when losing a game on penalties. You should be given the same increase/decrease you would be given for a draw rather than a win/loss in these circumstances.

39) The leader of the assist list seems to be the player who keeps the most clean sheets.

40) Players who are substituted show no ratings at full-time. So if my striker gets a hat-trick and I substitute him, his rating is blank after the game. (Yet substituted players can receive Man of the Match awards, so a rating must be getting calculated by the game? I presume they’re just not being displayed?)

41) Goals/assists that occur in cup competitions, e.g. the FA Cup, aren’t counted in the player’s statistics. Also goals from the Charity Shield game aren't counted and yet the game itself counts as a game played.

42) When scouted players are presented to you for purchase, they are always said to play on the opposite side to their preferred foot. For example, a left winger will always be shown to prefer their right foot. Yet if you buy the player, most of the time, they will actually prefer the appropriate foot.

43) Some players will sign for a club and then the next week they’ll have signed for somebody else!

44) When searching for players their form ratings are displayed, rather than their actual ratings. This means you have no idea what the player’s actual ratings are.

45) When buying a player, they are given a squad number already in use, and it messes up the squad numbers for the entire team. Why can’t they be given a number that isn’t in use?

46) A stadium will never fill up with people. I can play a Champions League match against a five-star team and all stands will still have large empty sections.

47) The player search parameters you input will reset when bidding on a player. So if you search for e.g. a defender, CB, rated 50-60, playing in League Two, then you bid on one and you want to search for a midfielder with the same rating, the parameters have been reset meaning you have to input each one again.

48) Occasionally the wrong stadium picture is displayed pre-game. For example when playing at the Emirates a picture of (what looked to be) the training ground was displayed.

49) Creating a player (not a Virtual Pro) to sign in your Manager Mode career seems incredibly difficult/buggy. If you create a player and assign him to the free agents pool, the game freezes. If you assign him to a national team, he doesn’t show up as a free agent in Manager Mode. If you assign him to a national team and THEN move him to the free agents pool, you won’t be able to find him anywhere but in the “Created Players” section and you’ll see that his assigned team is referred to as something like "team1932as12309" – you can’t then find this team/player in Manager Mode to sign the player.

50) Commentary gaffes happen every 1-2 games, e.g. “5 minutes to go and they lead 1-0” when it’s 1-1, “I have to say he’s on one of the worst runs of his career” when he’s already scored in the match you’re playing, etc. etc. etc. and also, when playing as your Virtual Pro, you find the commentary refers to you scoring your 20th goal every time you score once you’ve reached that point. So for example when you score your 21st goal the commentator will say it’s your 20th, etc. (not sure if this only applies to Manager Mode or other modes as well).

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51) People playing as League Two teams (e.g. Bury) are reporting that they are not entered into the English league cup competition.

52) People are reporting that they can go from having millions to spend to being BILLIONS in debt. [INCIDENT 1]

53) For the new season it was said by the development team that you receive new transfer funds and a new wage budget to reflect the new income for that season. People are reporting they start the new season with the same money they ended the last one. [INCIDENT 1]

54) In the Squad Management screen before a fixture, set it to display the OVR rather than fatigue bar, then select a reserve and swap him with another reserve. I've seen both of their OVRs change.

55) The Edit Formation screen is buggy. If you nudge one position around, then go to change the role of another position, it thinks the second position is where the first is. Sometimes it'll move it so they overlap, and you have to drag it back to where you want it. This was also the case in FIFA 09.

56) The OVR number disappeared from a player's bio. It used to be next to the player's list of positions. Why has it been removed?

57) Your board can give you an objective, e.g. avoid relegation, but you're given no indication as to where the relegation zone is, e.g. playing as a Polish league side the board objectives for the first season are to get to the QF of the cup and to "aviod the relegation zone". Where is it? Bottom 3? Bottom 2? I'm in position 14 out of 16, how are we supposed to know if that's safe?

58) The board will often tell you to invest in new players, when the transfer window is closed and there's nothing you can do about it.

59) When saving a Manager Mode game, when it's finished saving, why are you prompted to save your profile as well? This is with autosave turned on!

60) The Belgian league is missing playoffs.

61) The new Europa League format is not in the game.

62) Incorrect teams make it into European competition. As someone has said, "I got 4th in career mode but a team that ended up 12th goes to europa league while I don't". [INCIDENT 1]

63) For some reason only ten characters are permitted for first names and surnames now, when this wasn't the case in FIFA 09.

64) Friendly games (possibly Community Shield and cup games too) are counted as league games on the Manager History screen. So the recorded points/league position is false.

65) CPU substituted players remain on the field. Example; playing as Blackburn against Bolton, they subbed Kevin Davies for Elmander and you see the animation of him going off - couple of minutes later you notice he's still on the pitch and nearly scores a header.

66) Players sent off after 30 minutes can still win the Man of the Match award, which is ridiculous.

67) Teams from lower English leagues are appearing in European competitions which they shouldn't be eligible to appear in. [INCIDENT 1]

68) Some people are experiencing an issue where the transfer window is listed as having "one week left" when there's actually e.g. four weeks left. Also in some circumstances the transfer window continuously says that there is "one week left" and it gets stuck like this forever.

69) This has been reported by a Manager Mode player suffering from the transfer window bug where the game says there is "one week left" when there are actually e.g. four weeks left. "I put players up for sale until the message came up that said the board will not allow you to sell any more players. I left it at eight players, and now that the transfer window is open, none of the players are set as for sale and I get that same board message as soon as I try to list a player. It's like it remembers I listed the players but it forgets it took all of them off sale itself."

70) Going 5 games unbeaten is recognised as winning 5 games in a row from the commentators.

71) Commentators falsely call Pienaar captain even when the captain is set to Cahill.

72) Crowd noise, for derby games, has a major bug where the home team support goes silent if they score. Play as a London team against Arsenal at the Emirates and when they score, instead of the crowd shouting or cheering, the crowd fall deathly silent while the Arsenal players celebrate. At kick-off, the noise level returns to normal.

73) Starting a Manager Mode game as Notts County, a forum user signed a free agent called Andros Townsend and he appears in the squad twice. This kind of thing is being more widely reported now.

74) The Manager Mode freeze bug on the simulating screen, that was present in FIFA 09, is back. [ALL REPORTED INCIDENTS]
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* Ability to edit kit numbers
Which is needed because every new signing gets the 2 shirt no matter if it's already assigned.

* New board difficulty level setting
So you now get fired when in 3rd place and told that you definitely should have won that cup match away to ManUtd despite the fact you're Scunthorpe.

* New level of authenticity and realism with regard to signing players
Now nobody will sign for you, it's like Chelsea after the embargo.


* The Assistant Manager will also assess the importance of upcoming matches and rotate your line-up for you. This is especially visible in early cup games, where you can see that your star players often get a rest in these games. He can also be turned off so you can take care of all the team management without him interfering.
Yes he'll now place your slow CB's at LB, your forwards at CM and your goalkeeper up front. And he'll not stop tinkering despite being turned off.


* Ability to renogotiate with players immediately and not through negotiation history
So you can keep bidding for players you can never sign and are never told why they won't sign......

* CPU squad rotation
Giggs at LB, Vidic/Ferdinand at fullback and Brown/Evra at CB

* Fix to the long-term injury bug i.e. there will be long term injuries
Now there are no injuries, or if you're very, very lucky you might see 3 one week injuries in a season.

* Manager mode will not end if you get sacked, your reputation will take a hit and you will get offers from other clubs.
Now you get sacked even if 3rd in the league and still in both cups.....

* Able to assign generic stadiums to clubs and rename them, and set weather conditions for that stadium.
Now you get to play in night matches and rain 12 months of the year, or if you're really lucky play on a white pitch with a white ball.

* Ability to view opponents starting 11 pre-match
So you can see how the form system has removed the legs of a number of players and how out of position everyone is being played.

* Ability to shortlist up to 20 players
Actually it seems to be a max of 9 for me?

* Additional in-game commentary inc "Transfer speech, Player Form Speech, Board Confidence comments and much more to come"
Now you get to hear about losing 1-0 when it's actually 1-1 and how your striker is on a terrible run despite scoring in the first half.....

* English play-off finals will be played at Wembley
And at night probably, like the FA Cup final......

* New stats screen which tracks goal assists
So you can see that your goalkeeper has been given all the assists.......

* No limit on how much you can offer for a player, if you have the funds you can make the offer
But then the transfer will fail and you won't be told why, no matter how much you bid......

* Player form, based on the last 5 matches [especially the last 2-3], will affect a players attributes and market value
Score 10 goals in a match and see his form DROP.
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Chris, thank you very much for compiling a comprehensive list of all the issues with MM. This should help out the EA Dev team immensely instead of them searching through the countless threads on the boards. I think it pretty much covers a lot of what people have been saying.

Please do send it to them once it is finished.

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Not sure if this has been asked yet. When receiving the notification that your scout has found a suitable player, the players age is not shown ??? Can't see it for the life of me..
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Thanks for making this list. I truly hope they get to work asap on a patch. Hopefully before NA release... I will be so bummed out if MM is this broken... Its very, very disappointing to see the things that are on that list.. VERY Disappointing.
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people, please stop blaming the testers. its never the testers. testers are not stupid. they find more bugs than you could possibly imagine and know the game inside and out. its obvious the producers refused to fix all the bugs in time for a release, and sent out a marketing minion to get everyone all hyped up for the game
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Old 06-10-2009, 03:56 AM   #4449 (permalink)
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Were we not told that our budget would be renewed or increased after the season depending on how good your going? I am yet to see this happen, in fact it did, my budget went down by Negative $2.5 BILLION!
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Old 06-10-2009, 04:38 AM   #4450 (permalink)
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A love the improvements they made though,
I have to agree, i love the game, but some bugs are ridiculous.

The one that upsets me the most isn't even there, which is stamina, if you're gym coach isn't on a very high level, a player well get tired to the point of no stamina at all, even though he is 19 years old, only played 2 games , and 5 days have passed since the last game, really bomb scoring bug for me.
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