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Old 07-10-2009, 01:53 PM   #351 (permalink)
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Another bug added to the list (up to 65 now).

CPU substituted players remain on the field. Example; playing as Blackburn against Bolton, they subbed Kevin Davies for Elmander and you see the animation of him going off - couple of minutes later you notice he's still on the pitch and nearly scores a header.
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Another bug added to the list (up to 65 now).

CPU substituted players remain on the field. Example; playing as Blackburn against Bolton, they subbed Kevin Davies for Elmander and you see the animation of him going off - couple of minutes later you notice he's still on the pitch and nearly scores a header.

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Every flaw has been highlighted many times.

However a lot of them are minor that are not that important on the big scale of things.

The major two that make Manager Mode unplayable are

FORM - Fluctuates more than Jordans marital status

Transfers - How the f.u.c.k are you meant to progress when your players go missing... and loaned players get sold by the club they are loaned to!? It's unbelievable and needs to be fixed ASAP.
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Another one but this may not be Manager Mode specific. Description is from a friend.

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After a Manager Mode game it said the "Skilled Pro" achievement that I unlocked yesterday was unlocked again. At this point the game froze.

After rebooting the 360, I noticed that several achivements were unlocked:

- No pressure
- Grind it Out
- FIFA Fever
- Top of the League?
- Real Fan
- Ton up
- Globetrotter
- Double Champs
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Another one but this may not be Manager Mode specific. Description is from a friend.

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After a Manager Mode game it said the "Skilled Pro" achievement that I unlocked yesterday was unlocked again. At this point the game froze.

After rebooting the 360, I noticed that several achivements were unlocked:

- No pressure
- Grind it Out
- FIFA Fever
- Top of the League?
- Real Fan
- Ton up
- Globetrotter
- Double Champs

Yeah I had the 'Tough Schedule' Achievement awarded to me after getting the sack 10 games into my first season...

You're only meant to get this achievement when completing a season without simming a single match!! Yet my whole season and all the matches within it were simmed after getting the sack! And I sure as hell didn't complete that or any other season either.....

I feel like this has just been gifted to me as I have got nowhere near achieving this yet!!!!
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Hi all,

I am still on holidays for another 1.5 weeks - and as some of you noted I indeed got married on the same date that FIFA released (100% co-incidence!). That being said, I couldn't resist to log in yesterday and flew over the 13-14 pages of release feedback you've submitted.

Happy to hear that some of the new features work fine (i.e. results, league tables and transfers), not so much about the amount of early issues you've found (yes, I've read about all 53 reported issues ).

At this point I am not able to individually respond to your questions, queries and bug reports - I am still busy trying to avoid a heart attack from all the wedding bills coming in - but I will check in with Dave tomorrow to see what is going on in FIFA 10 land.
bro - its your honeymoon... do not be logging in. somethings are more important than others.
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Never had any freezing issues on the PS3.....sounds like XBOX owners have most of these.
i'm on ps3 and have the same problem - about 4/5 games into mm with gills and whenever i try to load the mm it freezes. this is with more than one save ( to the guy who says to have multiple saves! ).
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In hindsight I realize this belongs more in this thread than the other pinned thread in the console forum so:

Experiment: 12 of the best players in the world on the transfer list
Result: No buyers.

Hi, I play Stabæk in Norway and in manager mode I noticed I couldn't sell off some excess players only eating my funds. I was not getting any bids at all. So with all the oddities reported so far in mind I started to experiment to see if it was a coincidence, and eventually landed on this the final test.

I moved the 12 most expensive players in the game to my team in Norway, and once the transfer window opened I put them all up for sale. 12 weeks later the window closed, I had managed to sell one player, and the money was all spent on the negotiator hoping he would learn to make the right calls, but it was to no avail. I redid the experiment three times, and so the final total for 12 superstars up for sale for 36 weeks is 4 sales. Actually I've done a lot more weeks as I redid some out of pure frustration, but I think my issue is proven to be consistent now.

Now I can't make up my mind if this is an improvement or not. You see previously such experiments meant that other teams in the Norwegian league somehow found the cash to make a bid for Lionel Messi. Now I know teams like Sandefjord doesn't have the funds for that, no team around here has of course, but in previous FIFA games I sold smaller teams six or more world stars just to see if they ran out of money, but no they kept coming for more.

It's hard to compete on such grounds of course, but luckily it seemed the AI only exploited their bottomless well of cash when interacting with me. They also only used these stars as substitutes anyway, so even if they were out there using this advantage the impact on the game would have been minimal. Nevertheless a revamp of manager mode in FIFA 10 meant there was hope that part of the cheating AI was history, but I'm sure there could have been a road in the middle somewhere here.

Theoretically if such an unlikely scenario ever occurred in real life all the big clubs would shop like mad. But focusing on the individual deals here, I mean if Barcelona officially put Messi on the transfer list, you know they wouldn't have a hard time selling. In theory a small Norwegian club shouldn't have a harder time selling the same player. They may get less for him naturally, but look at how fast Manchester United moved for Molde’s Mame Biram Diouf when Arsenal raised their flag. If there is talent no club with a sense for success would ignore that talent just because the player plays for a lower ranked club, or because their manager only has a half star to his reputation. In fact in real life the latter would more than likely increase their desire for transfer ASAP as we know they want to see talent develop properly under their wings instead, but anyhow this is just a game so such concerns are more than likely not on the virtual coaches minds.

I would assume, or hope, that AI clubs have budgets they have to stick too now as well, so perhaps that can explain some of the lack of interest. However it is a bit odd that only one big club bothered to make a bid, and only did so once. They had no money the other times? Not even the teams I took players from, some which really should be sensing a lack of stars, seemed to be interested in a deal that could bring what they needed back to their team.

My experiment was unnatural yes, but still it says something about the new transfer system in the game. I'm not yet sure what that is though, whether it is a step back, forwards or even sideways. Am I missing some logic here? Okay this league and our teams don't produce a lot of interest, but trust me if the next Messi is around here there will be no lack of transfer interests.

Another thing that is a bit annoying is that I do get bids for the players I have not transfer listed from other Norwegian clubs. So there are signs of market activity as it should be within the league, but apparently a small club with a newbie manager is invisible to everyone outside that league. Well not 100% invisible, but rather ignored.

Oh well for now I guess I got to accept that the players I couldn't sell originally will just have to run out their contracts and be sent on their way. It is heart breaking in a small way as I prefer to reflect the team in real life and thus would find a use for all squad members, but with this new form system it's impossible to develop them all. Now since contracts seem a bit random I may try a few restarts to see if I can get lucky with who gets contracts running out in 6 months at game start, but the game is what it is, a bit broken.

I think this is all a bit ironic. I mean I gathered from the feedback around on these forums that the biggest problem was not selling your players but keeping them, preventing those on loans from getting sold as well as signing new players. Well I guess it doesn't work all that well on the other side of the fence either, no one can buy and no one can sell. Just great.


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Lastly one question unrelated to the above, that forces itself every year: Does anyone know if Norway and the other countries that have been excluded from taking part in the ECC type competitions in previous FIFA games are still out in the cold, or if EA have finally done the right thing and stopped the discrimination? Not having Europe as a carrot ruins the game. It's the only place we can make money, and without it we also miss out on valuable match experience for our squads. Playing our national season over and over gets a bit repetitive without the big award of playing in Europe and getting run over by teams like Valencia. Stop treating us wrong just because we're small! If we are in the game we demand to be playing on the same fields as all the others. It can't be that hard to add the few lines of code needed for this, and it certainly will not break your financial or "size of game on disc" budgets.
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i'm on ps3 and have the same problem - about 4/5 games into mm with gills and whenever i try to load the mm it freezes. this is with more than one save ( to the guy who says to have multiple saves! ).

Issues like this where there is a definite pattern to the problem within a certain area of the game can easily be patched....

As the same thing is happening across multiple platforms it's most likely a memory leak or something similar that can be plugged via a patch....

Its all the other stuff non-related to software performance & stability that worries me as to whether it can be fixed!!!
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Another glitch... I'm playing in the Eredivisie and in the EFA there are several weird English clubs... Scunthorpe, Scarborough and Newcastle! Impossible, cause non are playing in the EPL!

The ECC had Man Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea though.
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Anyone really not confident EA will fix many of these? They couldn't even fix the weather option and ability to edit kit numbers in last years game. Not looking good.
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SORT OUT THE WEATHER!

A patch really is needed, every match is at night.
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Anyone really not confident EA will fix many of these? They couldn't even fix the weather option and ability to edit kit numbers in last years game. Not looking good.
And this is exactly my point... Software performance and stability can be fixed via patches...

Anomalies through bad 'behind-the-scenes' programming I don't think can be resolved via patching.... it's a re-engineering job within the game code itself which cannot be touched via a bolted on patch!

Also, with this edition of FIFA now released and out there to the minions... FIFA 11 and the development stages to that release should be getting well underway, as now the focus turns to EA's cash income for next year. Limited resources and time will be put into a product which has already got the company extensive revenue figures banked!

Sorry to say... But this is how things are in this day and age!
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issues iv seen consistantly
- Too many night matches, only 2 day games a season? needs fixing.
- charity shield n fa cup games at night? needs fixing.
- players u loan out can be sold by the club their loaned too without u nowing?needs fixing!
- first two friendlys are always against opposition in your own division? never happens in real life. fix it plz
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And this is exactly my point... Software performance and stability can be fixed via patches...

Anomalies through bad 'behind-the-scenes' programming I don't think can be resolved via patching.... it's a re-engineering job within the game code itself which cannot be touched via a bolted on patch!

Also, with this edition of FIFA now released and out there to the minions... FIFA 11 and the development stages to that release should be getting well underway, as now the focus turns to EA's cash income for next year. Limited resources and time will be put into a product which has already got the company extensive revenue figures banked!

Sorry to say... But this is how things are in this day and age!
if thats the case im trading it in ... i can see what ya mean with the patch problem jesus this game is on par with HAZE for bugs and well .. they didnt fix that.

i hate to admit it and its my 1st ever time ive had to do this since starting with fifa when it was 2000 but for the 1st time in 10 years it sounds like i will not be keeping a fifa game for the whole year
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And this is exactly my point... Software performance and stability can be fixed via patches...

Anomalies through bad 'behind-the-scenes' programming I don't think can be resolved via patching.... it's a re-engineering job within the game code itself which cannot be touched via a bolted on patch!

Also, with this edition of FIFA now released and out there to the minions... FIFA 11 and the development stages to that release should be getting well underway, as now the focus turns to EA's cash income for next year. Limited resources and time will be put into a product which has already got the company extensive revenue figures banked!

Sorry to say... But this is how things are in this day and age!
Don't agree with that to be honest - i think it all depends on whether the time spent to make the amend is worth the effort, like the edit kit numbers last year - they released a patch to stop players taking the number 2 shirt cos the time it would have took to put a whole new edit feature in would have not been worth the effort.

Patches can touch the code but just depends if they have the time/resource to do so. They will more than likely pick the top bugs and fix them (like the missing players and contract issue etc)
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I don't think they're in a position to pick and choose right now.
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The bug i have found co-insides with a bug already said.

The transfer window shows up as 1week left closed when it is about 4weeks left close (known bug) what i found is that i put all the players i wished to sell for sale then so before the transfer window actually started. i put players up for sale untill the a message comes up saying " the board will not allow you to sell anymore players due to the core of the team changing to much" i left it at 8 players to sell and now that the transfer window is open non of the players are for sale and i get the message as soon as i click on a player to sell. its like its remembered i clicked them all to sell and wont let me sell anymore but forgetting it took all of them off sale its self. i now have the rest of the league to try win with me unable to buy any players due to wage problems. im srewed. lol big bug

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Whilst anticipating the arrival on fifa 10, ea were going on about how manager mode has over 50 improvements and how the gameplay has been tweeked to more realism...... could not wait, as ive purchased every fifa since being on the mega drive through to xbox360..

I purchased the game on the 2nd and start with i thought the gameplay was awsome and could not wait to get stuck into manager mode ( as thats my main mode of play on all the fifa's)...

Started well, but my first notice of a glitch was all my league games seemed to be played at night in the rain( as opposed to fifa09 , all played in the day, including europe games)...in one season i played one day game? eh? i convinced myself that i could get over it and it wouldnt fracture the experience....

secondly when i tried to renew contracts, found out you cant, even if you triple their wages.....could prove problematic...

but the biggest blow came when i tried to sign some players..to start of i kept bidding for players, but kept getting rejected without an explanation.. bidded over 5 times in a row each time upping price and wages on 4 different players, but still no explanation and no joy........

so i had to make signings of players that were transfer listed, and forget about the players that i actually wanted to sign... after doing so (this is were a part of my love for fifa died) the game sells 3 of my signings without telling me and i dont get any money!!!! lalala!!! oh and this happened on the last day of transfer window, so didnt have time to replace even if i did have any money left..... its bad enough losing a player youve just bought, but to also not get any money in return is really taking the biscuit....

im sorry but over 50 improvements in mm???????????? over 50 bugs more like, and ones that actually make it unplayable...
was this game not proof tested EA for things like this? in playing fifa for over 15 years this is the worst MM ever!!! in previous games theres always been glitches that have annoyed me, but this year is just taking the P!!

its such as shame too, as the game itself is great, but know ive stopped playing MM and the game altogether as whats the point if i cant sign players i want and even the ones i do sign dissapear without a refund!! i wont bother to mention other annoyances about form and players stats..

sorry to have such a moan EA , but i feel really cheated as a loyal buyer year in and out....
Please make patching this up a priority rather than gameface and online stuff, otherwise i may have to convert to Pes for the 1st time!


Does any one else agree? please ea, let us know if this will be mended, atleast just the transfer swapping thing wud be fine...

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when will the madness end???
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Does any one else agree? .

did you read any of the posts? yes, many people agree with you.
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I couldn't agree more.

I am absolutely sick and tired of developers releasing half-ar$ed unfinished games.

I thought Manager Mode was where EA focused their efforts this year, but at the moment it's an absolute joke.

How this game got over 90 on Metacritic I will never know - I guess the reviewers just assumed that EA hadn't delivered any gamebreakers in MM.

But my God, they have.

Absolutely gutted as I was really looking forward to this game.

We've not even had so much of an ETA for when the game may be fixed. Is this too much to ask?

Shocking, EA. You've risen to the top of the footballing tree, but now you've absolutely blown it.

At least Pro Evo wasn't fundamentally flawed like this pile of tosh.

Refund please, Asda.
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small bugs like this should at least be fixed ASAP!

*Goals/assists that occur in cup competitions, e.g. the FA Cup, aren’t counted in the player’s statistics. Also goals from the Charity Shield game aren't counted and yet the game itself counts as a game played.
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Hi all,

I am still on holidays for another 1.5 weeks - and as some of you noted I indeed got married on the same date that FIFA released (100% co-incidence!). That being said, I couldn't resist to log in yesterday and flew over the 13-14 pages of release feedback you've submitted.

Happy to hear that some of the new features work fine (i.e. results, league tables and transfers), not so much about the amount of early issues you've found (yes, I've read about all 53 reported issues ).

At this point I am not able to individually respond to your questions, queries and bug reports - I am still busy trying to avoid a heart attack from all the wedding bills coming in - but I will check in with Dave tomorrow to see what is going on in FIFA 10 land.
glad u r smiling about all the bugs with the game, if i was your boss i would be giving you a late wedding present in the form of clearing your desk and giving you the sack, what a disgrace and complete joke fifa10 MM is....still smiling?
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glad u r smiling about all the bugs with the game, if i was your boss i would be giving you a late wedding present in the form of clearing your desk and giving you the sack, what a disgrace and complete joke fifa10 MM is....still smiling?
I agree mate. How can he say he's glad that transfers are working!? Has he played the Manager Mode!? Obviously not!

I've already had two loanees being sold by the club I sent them to!

I can't renew any contracts of my existing players - apart from at the end of the season when they happily sign for next to nothing.

I've got no hope of signing any players - and even if I do sign one apparently there's every chance he'll disappear from my squad and start playing for someone else anyway.

Oh yeah Marcel, we're delighted it's working perfectly, too.
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