The Manager Mode Glitches thread

[cooler08]

Although Fifa 10 has only just recently been released, Manager Mode have come under a lot of criticism from disgruntled fans.

I thought id create a new thread so we can highlight any glitches so the dev team can fix them for Fifa 11 or hopefully fix in a patch. Here's a link to Fifa 09's MM glitches thread, you might want to take a look at this thread so you can notify me if there's of any of those glitches present in Fifa 10.

This is for the PS3/360 version

Statistics

1. The League table which is shown at the start of a match is often inaccurate. It often shows your team in 6th position, regardless of what your league position really is.

2. The Assist game stat is broken. I have not got one assist on any of my players even though the assist stat is highlighted in the season statistics. Assist is a important feature in the stats category.

3. The stats from Cup matches does not count in the season stats. I often use young players in the Cup matches and they only got 1 game, and no other statistic.

4. The leader of the assist list seems to be the player who keeps the most clean sheets. - Fixed in patch #2

5. The form for your players before the match begins is different during the match. Goes lower by 7 to 12 points regardless of performance.

6. Its strange that a substituted player doesnt get a rating after the game. If a player of mine plays great and should be Man of The Match, but becomes tired and I substitute him he cant be Man Of The Match. Many teams substitute the key player of the game when they are some goals ahead.

7. Players sent off after 30 minutes can still win the Man of the Match award, which is ridiculous.

8. Sometimes the end of match shot stats are inaccurate even when there were no own goals scored in the match. i.e. If you won the match 3-2, the end of match stats show-
2 SHOTS
2 SHOTS ON TARGET

9. In the Manager's History, all the stats are incorrect. It records friendlies, counting points for games that don't count.

10. After a match, on the Weekly Board Summary it sometimes shows the incorrect number of teams when showing your current League position.
i.e. If your 1st in the Premiership, instead of showing Position 1/20 it shows Position 1/18 instead.

Transfers

1. Almost every player signed by the CPU teams is given the #2 jersey. Not a big deal, but it takes away some of the realism when Pato is sold to Bayern and given the #2.

2. Teams putting their best players up for sale at the start of the season. I don't think it is realistic for Arsenal to put Clichy and Eduardo up for sale at the start of season 1.

3. It has been reported that transfers “lock” altogether after a certain amount of seasons (being linked to a disc problem).

4. When trying to sign a second loan player, sometimes I am told by the game that I already have two – when I only have one.

5. When signing two loan players, I then tried to (permanently) sign two free agents, and I’m told I can’t sign them because I “already have two players on loan”.

6. Signing players is practically impossible, even when offering maximum wages and maximum bonuses, even if you can get their interest level up to 85%+. (Even if you start out as a manager with no reputation, you should be able to sign really poor players with no reputation who aren’t getting first-team football elsewhere.)

7. Signing your own players is just as difficult, regardless of how well the team is doing. They refuse to sign even when you offer the maximum wages allowed. But if you wait until the end of the season, you get the same screen you get in FIFA 09 where you can just tick a box to re-sign a player and they will sign for peanuts! Strange one!

8. When you buy new players during the January transfer window, the players you bought at the start of the season leave your squad to other teams with no money involved. - Fixed in patch #2

9. Players that you loan out being sold. I loaned C Cathcart to Sunderland and they sold him to Hoffenheim for 1.4 million. - Fixed in patch #2

10. When attempting to buy players sometimes the game offers no explanation as to why they won't sign for you. No explanation is given on the Negotiation History screen for these players and it seems that they are never permitted to sign for your club, for no apparent reason. You never get an explanation for the affected players.

11. You can list a player for sale/loan who is garbage, e.g. 42 overall when the rest of the players in your squad/division are 60+, and instantly you get offers from the top teams in your division/country for him. Sometimes even top-flight teams from other countries make an offer; they have no possible reason to loan in a player who is literally twice as bad as any other player they have. It seems that every player you ever list you MUST receive an offer for, even if they are terrible, and it’s always a good team that has no need for a poor player which shows interest.

12. Sometimes when trying to sign a player they’ll say e.g. they get a “bad vibe” from your current players. Try to sign them again next week and they’ll sign for you. Doesn’t make much sense.

13. When scouted players are presented to you for purchase, they are always said to play on the opposite side to their preferred foot. For example, a left winger will always be shown to prefer their right foot. Yet if you buy the player, most of the time, they will actually prefer the appropriate foot.

14. Some players will sign for a club and then the next week you’ll get a notice on the transfers screen that they’ve signed for that same club. Again.

15. Some players will sign for a club and then the next week they’ll have signed for somebody else!

16. When searching for players their form ratings are displayed, rather than their actual ratings. This means you have no idea what the player’s actual ratings are.

17. When selling a player, the whole squad gets moved around. Player roles are also moved around.

18. When buying a player, they are given a squad number already in use, and it messes up the squad numbers for the entire team. Why can’t they be given a number that isn’t in use?

19. Player search parameters constantly reset when searching for a player. So if you search for e.g. a defender rated 60-70, then you want to search for a midfielder with the same rating, the parameters have been reset meaning you have to input them again.

20. Sometimes strange things happen with the amount of transfer funds, one person reported going from having millions to spend to being 2.5 BILLION in debt.

21. For the new season you're supposed to receive new transfer funds, new wage budget to reflect new income for that season, people are reporting they start the new season with the same money they ended the last one.

22. The shortlist was supposed to allow up to 20 players to be stored, but seems to only allow 10 players.

23. Some people are experiencing an issue where the transfer window is listed as having "one week left" when there's actually e.g. four weeks left. Also in some circumstances the transfer window continuously says that there is "one week left" and it gets stuck like this forever.

24. In the Manager summary, the average value of the players sold is incorrect. It seems to resemble the total value of the players sold.

ie. I sold four different players, two at a time. It said that the average value was £600,000 when none of my players were sold for more than £300,000 (played with Port Vale, CC L2).

AI Logic

1. The assistant manager AI is terrible. It will choose players with no fitness (10%-20%) to play out of position, over players with 100% fitness who can play in that position. See below for more info.

2. The AI management of other clubs is terrible. Examples; Chelsea play Terry at LB with Cole at CB in the same match, Man Utd play Vidic and Ferdinand as LB/RB with Brown and Evra as CBs in the same match, Giggs gets played at LB occasionally, etc. etc. etc.

3. The Assistant Coach still makes changes to the starting line-up even when turned off.

4. All teams below the Premier League have their tactics set to all-70s. Applies to other leagues/teams as well, see Australia, Brazil and others.

Time of day (tod)/ Weather

1. Almost every match in the English League's is played at either Night or Dusk and in raining conditions. Only mid-week League matches should be played at Night.

2. The Community Shield and all FA Cup matches are played at night when they’re only ever played in the daytime now, including the final.

3. Some ECC/EFA matches are occasionally not played at Night even in stadiums which have Night feature such as the Nou Camp.

4. When playing in the snow the ball used is white, which is incredibly difficult to see, the ball used should be either orange or yellow.

The Board

1. The board sack you even if you occupy first place. You can expect to be fired at the mid-way point of the season if you lose a cup game, even if you’re in the top four of the league, especially in the Premier League. Even in the lower leagues, I’ve seen situations where games are won 6-0 every week for months and suddenly you’re fired the moment you draw 1-1.

2. When the Board give you an ultimatum: improve your results or else, even if you win the next match they sack you. So the decision to sack you has been made regardless of the margin of victory in your following match.


3. When playing against teams who are better than you, your board always expect you to beat that team. I mostly play as a League 1 team, and if I’m beaten by a Championship or Premier League side I get a board comment that states I was “expected to win the game”, and occasionally you will get the sack for this. This may be because teams aren’t recognised in their correct division; for example, when losing against a team from the league above you, you will occasionally get a message that says you should have done better against “lower league opposition”.

4. Your board can give you an objective, e.g. avoid relegation, but you're given no indication as to where the relegation zone is, e.g. playing as a Polish league side the board objectives for the first season are to get to the QF of the cup and to "avoid the relegation zone". Where is it? Bottom 3? Bottom 2? I'm in position 14 out of 16, how are we supposed to know if that's safe?

5. The board will often tell you to invest in new players, when the transfer window is closed and there's nothing you can do about it.

6. As a manager with a reputation level of half-a-star, you sometimes get comments from the board that “a manager of your calibre should be performing better”.

7. You lose respect with the board when losing a game on penalties. You should be given the same increase/decrease you would be given for a draw rather than a win/loss in these circumstances.

8. When you win a Cup match i.e. 4th Round of the FA Cup, often it says "Reputation Lost" straight after the match although the Board confidence increases.

Injuries / Fatigue

1. I’ve seen one injury in two seasons; Marcel promised this lack of injuries – and especially this lack of SERIOUS injuries – was fixed for FIFA 10. This is simply not true.

2. Injuries don’t last for a long enough period of time. For example, a hamstring injury should keep a player out for a month – in FIFA 10 it’s a week.

3. Playing as a League 1/2 team, you have literally no fit players left after 3-5 games of the season. I don’t care how bad your fitness coach is, a group of professional players would have enough players fit to start a game after 3-5 games of the season. (You’re forced to spend £1m to upgrade your fitness coach to a realistic level.)

4. When simming games instead of playing them, two things to note. Firstly, the level of your fitness coach isn’t taken into account, so the players lose 25%-75% more fitness than they should. Secondly, when simming, you actually get to see some injuries! Plus they last for a decent period of time (e.g. metacarpal fracture, player out for four weeks)!

5. When you have a player injured, the game forces you to remove him from your team before going to the pre-game screen. You don't want to remove him from your first-choice team, you want to remove him at the pre-match team management screen, like in FIFA 09. But now you can't do that.

Player form / ratings / creation

1. The effect of form is far too severe. It makes your team go up/down by a whole star rating within a few games, so with a 3 star team you can yoyo to 2 star and weeks later 4 star. - Fixed in patch #2

2. The form system seems to be totally random. I can win 2-3 games in a row by 2-3 goals and the form will get worse. A striker can score six goals in a game and his form will DROP! - Fixed in patch #2

3. The overall rating of a player changes before/during the game. So if one of my strikers has an overall rating of 83 (including his form), when I pause the game and go to Team Management his rating can drop by 10+. What value is actually being used by the game? The pre-game rating or the paused-game rating?

4. Form should never affect physical attributes. For example, a striker who is on hot form wouldn’t see his strength increase. - Fixed in patch#2

5. Players who are substituted show no ratings at full-time. So if my striker gets a hat-trick and I substitute him, his rating is blank after the game. (Yet substituted players can receive Man of the Match awards, so a rating must be getting calculated by the game? I presume they’re just not being displayed?)

6. Creating a player (not a Virtual Pro) to sign in your Manager Mode career seems incredibly difficult/buggy. If you create a player and assign him to the free agents pool, the game freezes. If you assign him to a national team, he doesn’t show up as a free agent in Manager Mode. If you assign him to a national team and THEN move him to the free agents pool, you won’t be able to find him anywhere but in the “Created Players” section and you’ll see that his assigned team is referred to as something like "team1932as12309" – you can’t then find this team/player in Manager Mode to sign the player.

7. CPU substituted players remain on the field. Example; playing as Blackburn against Bolton, they subbed Kevin Davies for Elmander and you see the animation of him going off - couple of minutes later you notice he's still on the pitch and nearly scores a header.

Tournament Qualification / Format

1. When you draw an FA Cup match it goes to extra time/penalties instead of going to a Replay.

2. Norwegian and Swedish teams cannot qualify or compete in European competitions.

3. People playing as League Two teams (e.g. Bury) are reporting that they are not entered into the English league cup competition.

4. The Belgian league is missing playoffs.

5. The new Europa League format for the EFA is not in the game. Where the group stage consists of 12 groups of four teams (in a double round robin).

6. Incorrect teams make it into European competition. As someone has said, "I got 4th in career mode but a team that ended up 12th goes to Europa League while I don't".

7. Sometimes the same team is duplicated in League/Cup competitions. i.e. so if you beat Bayern Munich in the 3rd round of the EFA, your playing them again in the 4th round. Occasionally there are even more than 1 duplicate team such as seeing 3 of the same team in the League.

8. The EFA has a major bug in which you sometimes get eliminated from the Tournament after finishing 1st or 2nd in the Group. This also often results in a hefty reputation points drop from the Board.

9. Sometimes there is a duplicate of a team when they are promoted. As shown here with 2 Hull City's being promoted to the Premiership.

Team Management

1. In the Squad Management screen before a fixture, set it to display the OVR rather than fatigue bar, then select a reserve and swap him with another reserve. I've seen both of their OVRs change.

2. The Edit Formation screen is buggy. If you nudge one position around, then go to change the role of another position, it thinks the second position is where the first is. Sometimes it'll move it so they overlap, and you have to drag it back to where you want it. This was also the case in FIFA 09.

3. The OVR number disappeared from a player's bio. It used to be next to the player's list of positions. Why has it been removed?

4. When creating formations, it constantly disallows me to alter positions, saying i already have another play in that position, even though i haven't. And then when i move someone else to that position, it's perfectly fine with it.

5. When you get to a certain stage of the EFA or ECC i.e. the 3rd Round, sometimes you receive a message prior to the next match "You do not have a full squad, please amend your team or forfeit the match" even though there are no ineligible players when you check your Squad in “Team Management”.

When playing League and domestic Cup matches in between the 2 legs of the EFA you don’t encounter this problem.

*Turning on your Assistant coach allows you to proceed to play the match

Visual

1. The crowd attendances are to low with many empty seats in the stadium even if you’re playing at Old Trafford in the Premiership or in a ECC match against a 5 star team.

2. Occasionally the wrong stadium picture is displayed pre-game. For example when playing at the Emirates a picture of (what looked to be) the training ground was displayed.

Rules

1. Only 5 benched substitutes are allowed in FIFA 10 below the Premier League. All English league and cup competitions now allow 7 substitutes in reality.

2. Friendly games should allow 12 substitutes on the bench (and also you should be allowed to use all 12). Currently it’s restricted to 7 on the bench (with only 3 substitutions allowed).

3. Friendly games include matches against teams in your own division. This doesn’t usually happen in reality.

Scheduling

1. Sometimes your scheduled to play 2 matches in 1 day i.e. an FA Cup and League fixture on the same day.

Saving / Loading

1. The Manager Mode freezing bug (where you can’t progress without your console locking up) is still there. One person has suffered from this and noticed that in his last save before this occurs, one of his strikers has no name and next to the form icon it says “-10118”.
Manager Mode Freeze While Simulating

2. When saving a Manager Mode game, when it's finished saving, why are you prompted to save your profile as well? This is with autosave turned on!

Commentary / Audio

1. Commentary gaffes happen every 1-2 games, e.g. “5 minutes to go and they lead 1-0” when it’s 1-1, “I have to say he’s on one of the worst runs of his career” when he’s already scored in the match you’re playing, etc. etc. etc. and also, when playing as your Virtual Pro, you find the commentary refers to you scoring your 20th goal every time you score once you’ve reached that point. So for example when you score your 21st goal the commentator will say it’s your 20th, etc. (not sure if this only applies to Manager Mode or other modes as well).

2. When you score a late goal in a League match and take the lead, often Martin Tylor talks about extra time then Andy Grey says "We were thinking about extra time and possibly penalties Martin, this is how late this goal has come".

3. Crowd noise, for derby games, has a major bug where the home team support goes silent if they score. Play as a London team against Arsenal at the Emirates and when they score, instead of the crowd shouting or cheering, the crowd fall deathly silent while the Arsenal players celebrate. At kick-off, the noise level returns to normal.

4. The end of match comments related to your current streak are often wrong. i.e. if you've had 1 draw and 1 win in your last 2 matches, Martin Tylor says "We're looking at the in form team at the moment, 5 victories in succession".

[Meskell]

1) The form for your players before the match begins is different during the match. Goes lower by 7 to 12 points regardless of performance.

2) When attempting to buy players sometimes the game offers no explanation as to why they won't sign for you.

[Lashley14]

Contract renewal bug.

Not being able to sign any players unless you offer a lalalala load.

The form carry on, players going from 79 to 91 in one game is ridiculous.

[Meskell]

Originally Posted by Lashley14

Contract renewal bug.

Not being able to sign any players unless you offer a lalalala load.

The form carry on, players going from 79 to 91 in one game is ridiculous.

These two make sense though.

You could just wait until later in the season to renew the contract once your manager rep increases.

And a manager with a poor reputation would have to offer players ridiculous amounts of money to sign for them, think Man City.

[90523]

Originally Posted by cooler08

5. When you draw an FA Cup match it goes to extra time/penalties instead of going to a Replay.

NOT a glitch, Marcel said many times wayyy before the game was going to be released. It would take too much time to code it in while other aspects of the game needed adjustments. So this is not a glitch, nor an error. FIFA team know this, they just need to find a way to code it in.

[BigDunc]

After playing 15 games into my first season in Manager mode. I think statistics is important to the manager mode, and this year it is even more broken than last year.

I have noticed some problems:

1. The Assist game stat is broken. I have not got one assist on any of my players even though the assist stat is higlighted in the season statistics. Assist is a important feature in the stats category.
2. The stats from cup games does not count in the season stats. I often use young players in the cup games and they only got 1 game, and no other statistic.
3. After playing 15 games plus pre season games I have yet to see a injurie. No players is out with injuries.
4. It is way to much transfers between CPU teams. I want to play the manager mode with real squads.
5. The fatigue is broken. The players do not get tired. The energy bar is almost at max all the time.
6. Subbed players do not get a rating.

[cooler08]

Originally Posted by 90523

NOT a glitch, Marcel said many times wayyy before the game was going to be released. It would take too much time to code it in while other aspects of the game needed adjustments. So this is not a glitch, nor an error. FIFA team know this, they just need to find a way to code it in.

I know EA are aware of it but it's still a fault/glitch. Currently the game is coded so when you draw an FA Cup match it goes to extra time/penalties and NOT a Replay so that in itself is an error/glitch as it's not following the tournaments proper format.

[Zhendo]

9. The Assistant Coach still makes changes to the starting line-up even when turned off!!

[jonpollock187]

Originally Posted by BigDunc

[*]The fatigue is broken. The players do not get tired. The energy bar is almost at max all the time.[/LIST]

are you kidding?????? on mine, my team has 10 rating for the fitness, and after one game the whole team end up at no energy, and by the next game, 7 days later, there at about a 1/4 of the energy bar, its lalalalaing me off so much, cos i spent close to £10mil putting that stat up and it doesnt work, i should of spent the money on subs for cover.

[Simmy]

Yep, big problems with fatigue tbh.

[Disco_D82]

And no european cup for norwegian teams, ridiculous!

[Simmy]

Originally Posted by Disco_D82

And no european cup for norwegian teams, ridiculous!

U mean there's no Norwegian Cup? that does suck :/

[MkstattoP]

Went down by two points on REP when i won the League Cup

[Arthur-Hucksake]

Out of the blue my manager mode would freeze at the same point hard locking the 360. Happens when going into the next match.

I had the same problem with 09 on my last 360. Current one is just a few months old.

I've had to start manager mode again and just hope I don't get the issue again.

Last years I ended up trading in because I couldn't get to the third season.

If none of the issues mentioned in this thread including that blasted awful form bug and assists bug are fixed soon, the game is unplayable.

Next year ill wait a few weeks and buy FIFA 11 second hand/pre-owned cheaper, not risking wasting cash again.

[roundeyeblues]

Has anyone else noticed that at the end of a manager mode game on the PS3, you get the match ratings for the 11 who finished the game but not for any players subbed out during the game? It shows blank ratings for subs not used but nothing for players taken off. This is a little frustrating.

[roundeyeblues]

Also, on the transfer summaries, it never shows the transfers in to my team and the sort option only sorts the page you are on, not the whole list. These are only small details but it's the little things that make a game great.

[Arthur-Hucksake]

Oh lalala, my manager mode is freezing again.

But I noticed something really strange, on the squad list the strikers name is missing and next to it where the form icon is it says -10118.

I'm pretty sure the crash is related to the squad files, I had just quit out of manager mode and I got a prompt about default squads being loaded. When I loaded my save game back up.... started going all weird.

[Manutd3Player]

Strange assists from my goalkeeper..

He's got second highest in the league, perhaps goalkicks and pass back kicks are counted?

[gunsupbums101]

i really really like this game, but what is with all the bugs. it feels like they didn't even play it - but this one is the worst by far, i play MM with notts county and i signed a few players when i started. then i got to january an signed a couple more but i realised that the new players i bought made the ones i bought at the start leave my squad to other teams. no money involved. i go to the negotiation history and it says this player is on your team but they have a new clubs badge next to them. so far i have lost over £2 million in players just leaving. it really ruins the game as there is no point in signing anyone as they will just dissapear. lalala EA?? how could you let such a big mistake into a game, you ask people to pay a lot of money for a product that is not even finished, in any other industry you would go bankrupt. SORT IT OUT!!!! i hope an update will fix this i really do.

[Boyd45]

I have had some bugs

1) The transfers in my game have broke. no one will move club and no one will buy my players.

2) The EFA cup still has 5 teams in the group stage.

[dvined-no]

A lot of bugs need to be sorted like stats and the players leaving with no excuse. Ive now had the same problem of a player leaving 2nd post above this one.

[cooler08]

I haven't experience the freeze bug in Fifa 10 yet. At what specific point does the freeze usually happen? In Fifa 09, it usually happened when it says 'Simulating....' at the end of match or when you simmed a match.

[rarfarfar]

So I tried MM today (have been playing BAP so far), and low and behold, my new signees disappear too come january. To me that's a gamebreaking bug, since I love the trading players part of manager mode. As it is now, I'll never be able to buy anyone in confidence, because it's potentilly £££ out the window.

Shouldn't be hard to recreate for the devs. Pick Burnley > sign a player > wait for the january transfer window > sign a free agent (at least that's what I did).

[Mathieu6565]

Originally Posted by Disco_D82

And no european cup for norwegian teams, ridiculous!

Welcome to the club of people who got screwed by choosing a norwegian team on MM

[jonpollock187]

ive never had the players dissapearing thing happen to me, every player i have has stayed at the club unless i sell them, i get those messages saying so and so is interested in such a player, make sure you have a water tight contract and hes happy, but he never just walks out.