Things that FIFA can learn from PES!

[matt6666]

Originally Posted by RawwrrFIFA10

It would help if someone could summarise the key points.

Mostly subjective impression for me... Might be right dunno, newer game is going to seem less flawed though.. Pitch is bigger..

[Rev010193]

I don't quite get this. This lengthy praise of PES 2009 comes from someone who spent a massive amount of time and effort into improving FIFA 09, to the point where you claimed the game gave you a random and challenging game each time you picked it up. However, two weeks into PES 2009, you've simply abandoned your previous game?

For me, the customs tactics and player attribute changes you have suggested in your previous posts continue to be a joy to use, and I can't really think how they could be bettered. Are you now unsatisfied with your previous advice?

Cheers.

[Probleem08x]

both games are ok, but if you are used to one you need a lot time to get used to the other, that's why so many people say one sucks

i have both versions, and put time in both of em

[FifAddict97]

Originally Posted by Rev010193

I don't quite get this. This lengthy praise of PES 2009 comes from someone who spent a massive amount of time and effort into improving FIFA 09, to the point where you claimed the game gave you a random and challenging game each time you picked it up. However, two weeks into PES 2009, you've simply abandoned your previous game?

For me, the customs tactics and player attribute changes you have suggested in your previous posts continue to be a joy to use, and I can't really think how they could be bettered. Are you now unsatisfied with your previous advice?

Cheers.

I am thinking the exact same thing.

[bluchampblogger]

Originally Posted by Rev010193

I don't quite get this. This lengthy praise of PES 2009 comes from someone who spent a massive amount of time and effort into improving FIFA 09, to the point where you claimed the game gave you a random and challenging game each time you picked it up. However, two weeks into PES 2009, you've simply abandoned your previous game?

For me, the customs tactics and player attribute changes you have suggested in your previous posts continue to be a joy to use, and I can't really think how they could be bettered. Are you now unsatisfied with your previous advice?

Cheers.

Fair question. If I had never played PES 2009, I might probably be happy with tweaked FIFA09 and would still be playing it. But having played PES 2009 I see the gulf in gameplay and how superior Pro Evo's gameplay is. The version 1.40 of Pro Evo 2009 is miles ahead of fully tweaked FIFA09.

[tabmax]

fifa all the way

[DuduDaSilva]

both games have plus' and minus'

[FifAddict97]

Originally Posted by tabmax

fifa all the way

Agreed.

[Reaver]

I rented PES '09 for a week and for the majority of that week I was playing Fifa instead.

Both games have their flaws and strengths but PES just has too many flaws.

Personally the graphics are awful, most of the players make it look like you're playing on the PS2 version of PES.

Then the speed and while Fifa has a big problem here with how fast the players are, PES has a worse one because the players are too slow and it makes some matches so very boring.

I liked become a legend on PES despite it being a rip-off of BaP, I thought it was better than BaP anyway but then Master League brings it down because that is no where near manager mode (Even with all the manager mode glitches).

While I believe Fifa is the superior game, I will buy PES if I see it at £15 because its not all bad.

[IHateAssistedIdo]

Just so you know BAL has been around for years, just not in Europe If anything Fifa pinched it from PES but implemenred badly.

I personally think Master League is brilliant very in depth in terms of fatigue etc.

[KingMessi]

PES is awfully 3hit.

[Ledz]

PES vs FIFA: The movie

Coming out summer of 2010

[bluchampblogger]

Originally Posted by KingMessi

PES is awfully 3hit.

No it's not. The unedited version of the game is very good.

I have now updated the game with official emblems and kits. I'm also in the progress of editing/testing tweaks of PES 2009 just like I did with FIFA. Luckily, it only takes a few seconds to tweak attributes in PES 2009 because we have great desktop editors even for XBOX 360 option files.

I'm still not done with the testing of the tweaks yet. But with what I've seen so far, this game PES 2009 is just amazing. It's very hard to describe how. THIS IS FOOTBALL!!!

[SportsguruP]

i wish you could post some vids man. As a former winning eleven fan i know that franchise has the ability to make good football.

you r on the 360 yes. what device are you using to update your rosters can you give me a quick summary of the process including devices needed

thank you

P.S--- i edited " positioning " in fifa 09 and that is where the backbone of the problems in fifa start. the acceleration edits and great too, i have never heard you mention it but "positioning" is the key

[sgt_FRY_co0ker]

I currently own FIFA 09 and PES09 for the PS3, and I do enjoy both games. I generally play FIFA 09 more due to there's more licensed teams and the leagues are fully licensed. Also, the main selling point for me to get PES was for the Champion's League mode, which is the only mode I play on PES.

I don't have a problem with unlicensed teams for the Premier League in PES because on PS3 you can load option files from the internet and have fully licensed teams, kits, players, but not the boots.

[bluchampblogger]

Originally Posted by SportsguruP

i wish you could post some vids man. As a former winning eleven fan i know that franchise has the ability to make good football.

you r on the 360 yes. what device are you using to update your rosters can you give me a quick summary of the process including devices needed

thank you

P.S--- i edited " positioning " in fifa 09 and that is where the backbone of the problems in fifa start. the acceleration edits and great too, i have never heard you mention it but "positioning" is the key

There are some great videos (game allows you locally save upto 50 videos!!!) but I don't know how to bring them to internet.

Well, I didn't play around with 'positioning' in FIFA. If editing that has an positive impact, that's very nice to hear. But I have fully been converted to PES 2009 and there's no going back to FIFA 09 now.

By the way, I think I'm done with the PES tweaking. It is awesome and there's nothing else I want to do apart from playing PES now.

I just hope that PES 2010 and FIFA 10 are equally good titles and EA and Konami have learnt well from each other.

[SportsguruP]

ok blu enjoy and if you find a way to upload vids , i'm definately interested in seeing some

[laddsy76]

Originally Posted by bluchampblogger

There are some great videos (game allows you locally save upto 50 videos!!!) but I don't know how to bring them to internet.

Well, I didn't play around with 'positioning' in FIFA. If editing that has an positive impact, that's very nice to hear. But I have fully been converted to PES 2009 and there's no going back to FIFA 09 now.

By the way, I think I'm done with the PES tweaking. It is awesome and there's nothing else I want to do apart from playing PES now.

I just hope that PES 2010 and FIFA 10 are equally good titles and EA and Konami have learnt well from each other.

Can you explain how to apply the patches on Xbox360? Also is the online element any good?

[IHateAssistedIdo]

Kits updates etc are difficult to get on \xbox i believe.

[bluchampblogger]

Originally Posted by IHateAssistedIdo

Kits updates etc are difficult to get on \xbox i believe.

Nope. It took me all of 5 minutes!

[xWinnerxWisherx]

How did you got kit update?

[Pedrorsp]

Fifa can copy the PAUSING system from PES. It just sucks when the other team pauses the game in the middle of a tackle. Please EA, pauses only when the ball gets out of the field...

[Fraz]

Originally Posted by MrStacky

Well Im completely different to everyone else. I do think this game has longevity. I have played over 500 online games and some of the online experience is frustrating because of a few glitches and exploits but with time I have learned how to counter those. I have learned how to spot a players style of play early and adjust my tactics to suit. I play with low star teams which gives me more of a challenge against all the 5 star cowboys and while I lose 2/3rds of the games I play because of this the style and type of football required to make a 2 star game against a 5 star game successful very rewarding.
Both MM and be a pro have given me a huge challenge. I started out taking Notts County from the second division to the top of the Premier division on professional level, then did it with World Class level and finally am fighting my way up on Legendary level.

Same deal with be a pro, Im now having to work very hard to improve my player on legendary mode.

I have been playing FIFA games since Fifa 97 and this is by far the best one so far. I have not played any of the other versions as much as this one. It was a good step up from 08.

Still the things I would like to see for fifa 10 are tighter reffing on fouls, less dependency on speed and strength for determining how good a player is and more emphasis on skill and passing accuracy.I
also have PES 09 and frankly its the worst PES game in ages.

i think PES is too realistic....Yea i bet you guys are thinking Wat the hell is he on about realism is the best thing u can get in a game.

Yes it is but i mean cmon i really think PES was rushed i mean the dribbling u can hardly get in a straight line. Diving never works,Crosses almost everytime go in and the goalkeepers are the worst part They are So good at least in fifa it looks like they try to save it

[laddsy76]

Originally Posted by bluchampblogger

Nope. It took me all of 5 minutes!

Thanks but can you help or not? You havent answered my question lol

[bluchampblogger]

Originally Posted by laddsy76

Thanks but can you help or not? You havent answered my question lol

Okay, here are the ingredients:

1. XBOX 360 (unmodded) + PES 2009
2. Datel Max Transfer Kit
3. One 64MB memory card
4. A good, updated OPTION FILE for 'your version' of PES 2009
5. PES 2009 Editor v2.8
6. Xport360 software
7. Exploder_Resigner software

You can check the PES forums for the detailed guide. All this might look like a lengthy process but it is not.

I've done trial and error tweaks about 2 dozen times in the last 2 days. Enjoy!