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View Poll Results: FIWC should be cancelled due to the ammount of cheaters in the tournament
Yes, Definately. Otherwise FIWC will be full of cheating nerds 68 76.40%
No, Its EA's fault there is a glitch in the game not the gamers fault 21 23.60%
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Old 15-01-2009, 05:10 PM   #51 (permalink)
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What chance in hell do cheaters have of winning??

Once you qualify, to get that 20,000 you need to win the offline tournament final, and guess what....all the pros will be there. So if they are cheats, say hello to 100-0?
well you say that but even the honest top players are getting mugged off my these no life cheaters, and the way you are backing up I have a feeling you have had a dabble yourself.
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EA Sports have desperately screwed up on this, and have not fixed something they were supposed to fix in the last patch.

Additionally, the lack of response from them on this issue adds further fuel to the fire too. What I would like to see halalalalala:
  • suspend all online qualification
  • fix the glitch involved (and any others, such as the momentum glitch even though its not exploitable by any gamer, more info here: Online Changes)
  • reset EVERYONE'S FIWC stats
  • resume online qualification
  • ONLY the best gamers will make it to FIWC from that point
Bit harsh though.

Also, They lied to us that this custom teams was fixed in the last patch. If it is then how come people are still using it in the FIWC ?

I dont agree that reset everyone's stats. Ive played with LA galaxy and Reading to get my 3500 points in 2-3 weeks now i dont want them being resetted i've been playing fairly.
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Cancel FIWC... Bit extreme ?
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EA Sports have desperately screwed up on this, and have not fixed something they were supposed to fix in the last patch.

Additionally, the lack of response from them on this issue adds further fuel to the fire too. What I would like to see halalalalala:
  • suspend all online qualification
  • fix the glitch involved (and any others, such as the momentum glitch even though its not exploitable by any gamer, more info here: Online Changes)
  • reset EVERYONE'S FIWC stats
  • resume online qualification
  • ONLY the best gamers will make it to FIWC from that point
Perfect
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Cancel FIWC... Bit extreme ?
I think so...........

but I can see how some ppl can feel that way, it has been handled poorly..
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Yea because you've been cheating
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what the hell is that i just played a game in fiwc, my oppenent went disconnect/quited, but i got 62 pts deduted and my hub recorded a loss with 0-3...i ensure that i kept online and the message showed the oppenent quited/disconnected...it frustrates me alot
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Yea because you've been cheating
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Old 15-01-2009, 07:04 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Few cheaters? The whole top 100 is using it !!!!
Thanks for that im 23rd and havnt touched a custom sqaud so top 100 bar me
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Old 15-01-2009, 07:05 PM   #61 (permalink)
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and u cant demand for it to be canceled and it wont, we just need the cheaters out
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Bit harsh though.

Also, They lied to us that this custom teams was fixed in the last patch. If it is then how come people are still using it in the FIWC ?

I dont agree that reset everyone's stats. Ive played with LA galaxy and Reading to get my 3500 points in 2-3 weeks now i dont want them being resetted i've been playing fairly.
Probably harsh on anyone who's put alot of time and games into getting where they are, but I'm sure if they are genuine and decent, they'll understand the reasons as to why everything has to be reset, because there are cheaters amongst them. And if they are indeed good enough to qualify for the event, they'll do so from any point.
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Probably harsh on anyone who's put alot of time and games into getting where they are, but I'm sure if they are genuine and decent, they'll understand the reasons as to why everything has to be reset, because there are cheaters amongst them. And if they are indeed good enough to qualify for the event, they'll do so from any point.
exactly mate.
and I know you talk a lot of sense because of your previous posts.
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Probably harsh on anyone who's put alot of time and games into getting where they are, but I'm sure if they are genuine and decent, they'll understand the reasons as to why everything has to be reset, because there are cheaters amongst them. And if they are indeed good enough to qualify for the event, they'll do so from any point.
Well, I had my exams in december so i only started playing FIWC from january and i have been playing really hard fairly to get to where i am, I dont want to work my socks off again to earn my points. I mean i havent been cheating so it will be very very unfair if my points were deducted now wont it ?
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Old 15-01-2009, 07:41 PM   #65 (permalink)
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i am top 13 and i never used the glitch too :S
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I can also vouch for the fact ther is players in the top 100 who don't cheat
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^ I do see and understand your points (previous 3 posters).

Its one hell of a mess that EA Sports have caused.
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Agreed, The one to blame for this mess is EA themselves.

Just imagine this, Its the FIWC final, a player is through on goal in the 89th minute the scores are level.. The opponent brings out his goal keeper and the player chips the keeper and it counts as an OWN Goal instead of a proper goal to the player who scored, How embarassing would that be for EA ? I Sincerely hope that something of that sort happens in the FIWC which would humiliate EA sports so that maybe they will put in effort for beta testing for Fifa 10.

Blalalahe thing i mentioned happened to me once its another one of those glitches, Its in the game !
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i dont understand this yes its a glitch in the game but its still cheating so as it sayes when you register and when you open into fiwc cheaters will be disqualified and banned
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i dont understand this yes its a glitch in the game but its still cheating so as it sayes when you register and when you open into fiwc cheaters will be disqualified and banned
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Old 15-01-2009, 08:32 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Cancel FIFA IWC - There is more chance of me beating Jad_3, Adamw or Danny Taylor. It will never happen!
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Agreed, The one to blame for this mess is EA themselves.

Just imagine this, Its the FIWC final, a player is through on goal in the 89th minute the scores are level.. The opponent brings out his goal keeper and the player chips the keeper and it counts as an OWN Goal instead of a proper goal to the player who scored, How embarassing would that be for EA ? I Sincerely hope that something of that sort happens in the FIWC which would humiliate EA sports so that maybe they will put in effort for beta testing for Fifa 10.

Blalalahe thing i mentioned happened to me once its another one of those glitches, Its in the game !
If I wasn't in the final I would laugh my head off!

Too the others they will never cancel it (too many stakeholders).
They wont reset the stats again. Majority dont use it so why would they have their stats reset because of others, doesnt make sense.

They need to fix it and continue the tournament and apoligise to those felt hard done by...
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well you say that but even the honest top players are getting mugged off my these no life cheaters, and the way you are backing up I have a feeling you have had a dabble yourself.
No way mate, I'm not backing up at all. Cheaters will never win, and that is why I won't cheat. I will admit, in previous games I have "cheated" for a small period of time (but who hasn't?), but the fun wears of really quickly, because it gets boring when you don't play the game properly, and thats why I don't want to cheat in FIFA.

But besides that, I have alot of respect for EA, and I wouldn't cheat because I know how much effort they put into this, and the other fact is, you will get caught and then it is all for nothing. Besides that (again) even if cheaters didn't end up getting banned, I would prefer playing the game properly, I always get mad when my friends don't try their hardest when they play me.

My answer to "Why would EA pay so much money out in prizes + free flights + a car for no monetary gain?" My answer would be that Kia are not paying EA at all, they gave EA a free car.....(or maybe EA bought it???) and this kind of tournament might make someone pick FIFA over PES. I already would of gone for FIFA, I did before I even knew about FIWC, but when you know that EA are investing in prizes to make FIFA a better game, more people will play it.

Another thing I will say is that whilst you can expect people not to cheat (have an upper advantage over others) you cannot expect people not to use the glitches that the game contains.

To be honest, I am not ashamed to try and provoke glitches, and stupid things. When I am behind, I try and score from the half way line. Sometimes I hoof it into the corner flag, and the goalie runs out, and theres a chance he will mess it up and pass it to my player who has an open goal. Even if that own goal glitch happened, I would take it. The general fact is, I know that the person playing me would do the same. FIWC is a dog eat dog world, and whilst I won't cheat, a glitch is something part of the game until its fixed (a cheat is something from outside the game). I won't ***** a glitch until it happens, but when it does happen, I'm happy. Its like on "Golden Balls" (an English game show). The only logical choice is to steal (if both steal the money, no one gets it, if both split, both share it, if one steals and one splits, the stealer gets it. But they don't know what eachother will pick, but they can discuss/lie before picking). If you split (be kind) there is a massive chance that you will get fk'd over (in Fifa terms, if you don't go for the win, the other person will probably not hesistate too). When you split, at the best you are going to share the winnings (not as good a result as it could of been, you might even lose because of it!). If you steal, you either get everything, or you lose everything, but you would of lost it anyway, if you act nicely do you think that rubs off on other gamers?? It really doesn't, and that is why I use glitches to my advantage.
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