3 horrible flaws in the game

[JUVENTUSFOREVER]

Instead of talking about exploits and extra teams and licenses there has to be these 3 things in the game that must be changed because they irritate just about every player and force some to just put the game away. If anyone knows of any worse flaws than these or just as bad that irritate you, post here.

Flaw 1 - Why is the keeper so damn invincible when he's running out, he runs at you like a lunatic, if you chip it he will do a super jump which the patch seems to have changed, if you hit a placed shot at times he has ridiculous reaction, and if your feeling really lucky you try go round him which is ridiculously hard in this and that's my problem, if the keeper flies out in real life, a forward would go round him. Make the keeper less invincible when people bring him out next year please EA.

Flaw 2 - If you hit a first time shot on a thro' ball, it will fly way over the bar 90% of the time. In many occasions I've played the ball wonderfully around played a super thro' ball to the striker near the 6 yard box, and even then he'll sky the shot if you don't take a touch. And please don't tell me do a driven shot with double tap or L2 as if it's a first time shot it will sky over no matter how close.

Flaw 3 - the dreaded extra touch, everyones experienced this many a time. Players always want to take an extra touch when you don't want them too. Self explanatory.

People love football and treat these football games as more than games, so please try remove these flaws EA, and only then will you make FIFA a very good football game, until then PES 6 still holds the crown of the closest depiction of the game.

(don't get me wrong I still think FIFA 09 is a very good game but the more you play the more flaws pop up in the game which just shouldn't be acceptable. I understand FIFA is just on it's way back up, but I hope it continues that way, keeps addressing problems and makes it a great game and not just sit on their perches and reap in the cash now that FIFA is selling big time again)

[Doc]

well said mate, the extra touch is really annoying, especially when your paying as a lower rated team and you want to play quick passing and shooting.

[Dan808080]

yeh i agree the keepers can be annoying u can never take the ball round a keeper not proply nayway i also hate the exta touch it normally happans on crosses and it completely ****s up the cross or anytime really

[ForzaSSCNapoli]

Is the extra touch you're talking about that ridiculous stutter step lalalala? Does anyone else still experience that stutter step flaw?

Considering GKs, I think it's good that they're better this year, but Cech is ridiculously too good.

[pato_milan]

great post..flaw # 1 irritates me the most.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by ForzaSSCNapoli

Is the extra touch you're talking about that ridiculous stutter step lalalala? Does anyone else still experience that stutter step flaw?

Considering GKs, I think it's good that they're better this year, but Cech is ridiculously too good.

yes that stutter step and also when a high cross has come in.

[GeordieBell]

Originally Posted by JUVENTUSFOREVER

Flaw 1 - Why is the keeper so damn invincible when he's running out, he runs at you like a lunatic, if you chip it he will do a super jump which the patch seems to have changed, if you hit a placed shot at times he has ridiculous reaction, and if your feeling really lucky you try go round him which is ridiculously hard in this and that's my problem, if the keeper flies out in real life, a forward would go round him. Make the keeper less invincible when people bring him out next year please EA.

I disagree a little, I agree they are very hard to beat and for me my finishing is pretty dire at the best of times so I should probably want it easier, however, In many games it is possible people get through one and one numerous times in a game if it was easy to take it around the keeper then scores would be so high and i suspoe by your standard maybe unrealistic i think it evens the gam eout al ittle.

If you want to go with an easier keepe rmaybe other areas like the way a defender kind of stutters when you change to him allwing attcker through or how they just stand off shoudl be adresssed.

Me personally am happy the way it is my flat mate actually finds it surprisingly easy to take it around the keeper not sure how he does it but he just sort of glides around him and slots it in so it is possibly to do consistently as he does maybe more practice>?

[USABluesfan]

What you gotta do is go as close to the keeper as possible before shooting. I think there is a goalkeeper difficulty setting in the game.

[s.c_number7]

its worse when the keeper is outside the box and he handballs it

[X3F Maxi]

Originally Posted by fight4fun

its worse when the keeper is outside the box and he handballs it

i had that in an online ranked match... ****ed me right off, 3 yards out the area he picked it up and the AI "hovered" back into the area with no leg movment. like he had wheels on his shoes and i had pushed him backwards.


the first touch ****es me off too as ive scored a pathetic own goal by my defender chesting a ball over my keeper from a cross..

[Aero_Bar_14]

I disagree with flaw 1 and flaw 2, I think the keepers are pretty good this year, their AI needs some tweaking thats about it.

Flaw 2, I always think first time shots are too soft, I find my first time shots roll like a badly hit pass at times. Maybe my timing is way off, could be the same issue with you.. Unless your using Carton Cole that would be realism at it's best, although he is getting better.

Flaw 3 I agree with totally, you hit pass or shoot but it's like the CPU has decided it needs one more touch to do it. I do find this happens more when sprinting though which may make sense have you have slightly less control of the ball.

I'm sure EA will again put in huge hours on gameplay for Fifa 10.

[Aero_Bar_14]

Originally Posted by fight4fun

its worse when the keeper is outside the box and he handballs it

Didn't see this before, but yes, now that annoys me too!!!!

[X3F Maxi]

the keepers defo need to be looked at. you get hacked down with no red or free kick. this why bringing out the keeper sometimes is a good thing as he just storms out like a raging bull and you know for sure he will either get the ball, or completly take the player out.

[ForzaSSCNapoli]

I'm not sure if I've ever seen this IRL, but shouldn't a red card be issued immediately, and not after a dead ball? I've had a striker get a red, I don't even know why because it was minutes later, after he scored a goal!

[CaseyJones77]

^yeah they do normally do it in real life

however, by the actual letter of the law i believe the in-game way is correct.
but common sense in real life prevails, 'cause you'd feel pretty hard done by if you let in a goal by a player who should have been sent off for a horrible challenge a few mins earlier

[ForzaSSCNapoli]

Originally Posted by CaseyJones77

^yeah they do normally do it in real life

however, by the actual letter of the law i believe the in-game way is correct.
but common sense in real life prevails, 'cause you'd feel pretty hard done by if you let in a goal by a player who should have been sent off for a horrible challenge a few mins earlier

I can't think of any red card offense that won't be called immediately...? Red card fouls are normally intentional, I'm talking about straight reds not second yellows.

[crazyhorse_67]

Re GK - Shoot a touch earlier than you might normally, and shoot/aim low (minute 'tap' on shoot button). Keepers struggle to get down, and you can score quite often even without hitting the corners of the net.

Re Extra Touch - When through on goal, if you have the time (plan early for it), knock the ball on with the right analogue stick and immediately press to shoot. I don't remember ever having someone take an extra touch after I've 'knocked-on'.

Bare in mind, I only play on WC level... the above might be useless for those on Legendary. If I ever learn how to defend against the 'cross', consistently, I might move up

[The Blitzkrieg]

dont like it. dont play it

[Dracoris]

Keepers also never foul. If I get mauled by the keeper and miss the shot without him even coming close to touching it, its a goal kick instead of a free kick/penalty.

[kvream]

What about the tackling? You tackle a striker and by the time your defender has control of the ball to play it out you are counter-tackled on (or in) your 18 yard box for a great scoring opportunity. If EA insist on it taking a second or two for my defender to control the ball to play a controlled pass out, then the just-tackled-striker shouldn't really get to re-tackle me (certainly not knock my defender down or push him off the ball) until I have a chance to enter that window of control. EA SPORTS World - Manual Tackle Foul

Also, I hate how you can tackle a striker head on and the ball bounces around and into the path and instant control of the same (or nearby striker) as he continues his run unabated. That's pure lalalala. I don't know how many ranked matches I've given up on simply because of ridiculous goals that come from situations like this. Once in a blue moon sure, but one or two every game or two? The initiative surely must go to the defender here.

Finally, the strong (sliding) tackle calls are pretty bad. I've beaten his left mid with my right mid and he will use a sliding tackle as a last resort, the ball will not be touched (not even close) and my player is dumped (from behind or diagonally from behind) and no call is made. I'm pretty sure checking if the ball is touched isn't that hard. Did it change direction? No? Ok, did the player get knocked off his feet? Yes? Call a foul. It's not rocket science. Here's one versus the computer on world class: EA SPORTS World - Sliding Tackle No Call 1. That's not even egregious relative to the ranked matches I'm really concerned about.

Here's another thing I hate: by the time I've switched control to the receiving player and pull on the left stick for him to check to a pass often the defender is somehow ahead of me and intercepts the pass. EA SPORTS World - Player Won't Check to Pass

[Alamode]

Originally Posted by JUVENTUSFOREVER

Instead of talking about exploits and extra teams and licenses there has to be these 3 things in the game that must be changed because they irritate just about every player and force some to just put the game away. If anyone knows of any worse flaws than these or just as bad that irritate you, post here.

Flaw 1 - Why is the keeper so damn invincible when he's running out, he runs at you like a lunatic, if you chip it he will do a super jump which the patch seems to have changed, if you hit a placed shot at times he has ridiculous reaction, and if your feeling really lucky you try go round him which is ridiculously hard in this and that's my problem, if the keeper flies out in real life, a forward would go round him. Make the keeper less invincible when people bring him out next year please EA.

Flaw 2 - If you hit a first time shot on a thro' ball, it will fly way over the bar 90% of the time. In many occasions I've played the ball wonderfully around played a super thro' ball to the striker near the 6 yard box, and even then he'll sky the shot if you don't take a touch. And please don't tell me do a driven shot with double tap or L2 as if it's a first time shot it will sky over no matter how close.

Flaw 3 - the dreaded extra touch, everyones experienced this many a time. Players always want to take an extra touch when you don't want them too. Self explanatory.

People love football and treat these football games as more than games, so please try remove these flaws EA, and only then will you make FIFA a very good football game, until then PES 6 still holds the crown of the closest depiction of the game.

(don't get me wrong I still think FIFA 09 is a very good game but the more you play the more flaws pop up in the game which just shouldn't be acceptable. I understand FIFA is just on it's way back up, but I hope it continues that way, keeps addressing problems and makes it a great game and not just sit on their perches and reap in the cash now that FIFA is selling big time again)

I agree with all of these flaws.

Flaw #1. Its so irritating because mostly i play with reading and you hardly make any chances to score and when you do, well what do you know the keeper's rushing out like a maniac and no matter what you do he'll save it. After playing 500-600 games i have finally become better at finishing and now i usually score like 40% of my chances. I just turn and pass to another player or try to chip it but even then its ridiculously hard to chip the keeper from outside the penalty area.

Flaw #2. Yeah, no matter how less power you put on the shot the ball flies over the bar alot in this game. The ball just doesnt come down and its not realistic. The balls are like floating and they just always seem like going up and up and up and never going down.

Flaw #3. This is extremely annoying when playing with lower ranked teams.

[Alamode]

And add to that list, the tackling flaw.

Flaw #4. I usually do a sliding tackle while trying to intercept passes but sometimes after i have tackled and my player is about to get up my opponent's player (who doesnt have the ball) is running forward making a run but collides with my player who is about to stand up. What is the end result? A Red card. This happens like 5 seconds after i did a CLEAN tackle. Its ridiculous, In real life the opponent's player would just jump over the tackler or go around him. Anyone else face this problem of tackling the player without the ball a few seconds after you tackle the player with the ball ?

[kvream]

I try not to use the sliding tackle myself as it's asking for trouble. If you hold down the "2nd defender press" button while you are playing defense your guys will usually "auto-slide" safely for you.

[usefulll]

The worst Flaw (in my opinion) is the Offside bug..Being
Offside in my side of field when i was in possession. And
Opponents was at their side of field.

[JonnyLuvRod]

Originally Posted by Alamode

And add to that list, the tackling flaw.

Flaw #4. I usually do a sliding tackle while trying to intercept passes but sometimes after i have tackled and my player is about to get up my opponent's player (who doesnt have the ball) is running forward making a run but collides with my player who is about to stand up. What is the end result? A Red card. This happens like 5 seconds after i did a CLEAN tackle. Its ridiculous, In real life the opponent's player would just jump over the tackler or go around him. Anyone else face this problem of tackling the player without the ball a few seconds after you tackle the player with the ball ?

Totally agree with this one mate.

I'm new to FIFA and this is very disapointing part of the game for me. A perfect tackle taking the ball head on through the oposition player is very satisfying in a football game, I love tackling but to then be punished because a second oposition player gets collided with, sometimes only slightly, with an instant red card is a letdown for me in the programming.

I'm not after perfection in a game but the slide tackle is virtually redundant because it often results in several red cards.