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Old 09-01-2009, 11:13 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Here's another thing I hate: by the time I've switched control to the receiving player and pull on the left stick for him to check to a pass often the defender is somehow ahead of me and intercepts the pass. EA SPORTS World - Player Won't Check to Pass[/quote]


I just push both left and right trigger to free the player and move towards ball to anticipate defender ...try it out!

Hope this helps
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:40 AM   #27 (permalink)
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i had that in an online ranked match... ****ed me right off, 3 yards out the area he picked it up and the AI "hovered" back into the area with no leg movment. like he had wheels on his shoes and i had pushed him backwards.


the first touch ****es me off too as ive scored a pathetic own goal by my defender chesting a ball over my keeper from a cross..
yeah i have had that happen to me before with defenders taking touchs on the goal line, why dont they clear it automatically like they do when you dont want them to?
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:09 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Here's another thing I hate: by the time I've switched control to the receiving player and pull on the left stick for him to check to a pass often the defender is somehow ahead of me and intercepts the pass. EA SPORTS World - Player Won't Check to Pass

I just push both left and right trigger to free the player and move towards ball to anticipate defender ...try it out!

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if this works you are a god that annoys the lalalala out of me!
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:14 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The two biggest problems for me are -

1: Super keepers like you said, they are to impossible to go around. But also the keeper charge is bugged, when the ball breaks loose the keeper doesn't run out his goal to smother it, and if you press keeper rush there is a second delay before it registers.

2: Player selection. Completely messed up at times, ball is dropping onto a players foot for a volley and no matter how much you button mash the player select it won't change player, OR it cycles through two players ridiculously far from the ball and then cycles to the guy who's foot the ball is basically at (when the chance is gone).

Other than that only minor niggles, but these two are big ones for me.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:16 PM   #30 (permalink)
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extra tocuh is really annoying when you have a chance to score 90th minut and its 0-1 to the other guy.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:23 PM   #31 (permalink)
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We've had a few red cards in Clubs (not us, but the opposition) for fouling their own players


I think you have to practice with slide tackles, theyre pretty easy, i rarely ever get sent off or even foul. (in 1v1)
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:51 PM   #32 (permalink)
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For the keeper thing, I somehow agree but i make enough chances to score and win anyway. What i do is jam the left trigger left or right and shoot so it goes on either side. If youre lucky and the timing is correct you will score. SOmetimes you can even beat him on the side he is covering. =)

YEA THE SLIDE TACKLES!!! Man thats annoying. THe way they calculate the foul is if you press the button, you dont get the ball, the other guy getlalalala (no matter wether he runs into you or anything) and its a foul. But sometimes for some strange reason, it doesnt work. Like i had the comp slide me from the back, get nothing on the ball and walk away with it.

Oh. Extra touch is a double edged sword. Can help you get some own goals against the other team if youre lucky =). Other times its stupid. even the ref. i pass, ball hits him, falls to opposition, opposition score.

THere are loads more flaws but ill save it for later. see if anyone else puts it up =P
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:59 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Great post, i agree with flaw #1 the most, as its one that seems to be noticable almost all the time. I think keepers do need a change in their A.I. they need to be more agressive, the ball could be rolling around next to the six yard box with a striker bearing down on it, and the keeper will just stand their and do nothing, they need to be more agressive. Also im sick of keepers picking and choosing when to come out of their area, and what to do with the ball. I had a comedy moment in my Wolves MM when Hennesey rushed out, and hoofed the ball into the back of one of my own defenders, leading to a comedy own goal in an important game, my first own goal in this game, and i didnt even have control over it. Another small flaw, is when a keeper does come out, the ball gets sucked into a vortex and always appears in the keepers arms, its as if they come together like Magnet and Steel.

This game is great, best football game since ive played since PES5, but in some areas i feel PES beats FIFAs keepers, they dont all appear to be world class as they do in FIFA, keepers can get sent off for bringing a striker down, and they are far more agressive in PES without being super human.
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Old 09-01-2009, 06:09 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Here's another thing I hate: by the time I've switched control to the receiving player and pull on the left stick for him to check to a pass often the defender is somehow ahead of me and intercepts the pass. EA SPORTS World - Player Won't Check to Pass

I just push both left and right trigger to free the player and move towards ball to anticipate defender ...try it out!

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Thanks I'll give it a try. However, is this technique listed in the instruction manual? If not, this is another thing which needs fixing; you can't (shouldn't) have hidden abilities.
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Old 09-01-2009, 06:57 PM   #35 (permalink)
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In my experience, the biggest flaws are:

1. Changing players:
When i push the button it should change every time. End of discussion about it. Thank you EA, good night. Fix it or don't release it.

2. Jerky Stiff Movement/Acceleration/Speed is King:
-When i'm running straight, sprinting or not and decide to cut in at only a 20 degree angle, i completely stop and loose the ball. Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb
-Players are too slow dribbling when not accelerating. Soft touch Right analog need to be implemented. it's in every other game out there, why not Fifa?
-Coca-Cola League 2 defenders are faster than Ronaldo. Why? Cause we can't be allowed to do things? nonsense. Slow CPU Defenders cannot be faster than fast Human attackers.

3. Advantage:
In my knowledge, the advantage rule applies to advantage through possession. It's not a time limited proximity rule. It's also programmed to stop on foreseen interference which completely makes me believe the games AI is based on:

4. Prediction:
The CPU knows the only possible direction you can move in and often will just run to a spot, in which 1-2 seconds later i end up in. If you are in fact quick enough to read the defense then i congratulate you but i have done this only to lose the ball due to the poor movement/acceleration.
EA, we don't need a cheating CPU. When can some difficulty setting be programmed thats not based on cheating and advantage/disadvantage?
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Totally agree with this one mate.

I'm new to FIFA and this is very disapointing part of the game for me. A perfect tackle taking the ball head on through the oposition player is very satisfying in a football game, I love tackling but to then be punished because a second oposition player gets collided with, sometimes only slightly, with an instant red card is a letdown for me in the programming.

I'm not after perfection in a game but the slide tackle is virtually redundant because it often results in several red cards.
Exactly. I was very good at slide tackling in Fifa 08 and am good in Fifa 09 but i dont go for it because of this crazy collision that you get sometimes.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:24 PM   #37 (permalink)
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There are some flaws, no doubt, and no game is perfect but 1 flaw drives me crazy because its absolutely unrealistc:

Keepers stay on their line !

Why???

A ball rolls into the penalty box and every keeper would run to the ball and get it.
But Fifa09 keepers always stay on their line and watch the strikers coming and gettign the ball to score an easy goal then.

And yes, I do use the triangle button to call the keeper but its not working very often...
And CPU keepers stay always on their lines.
I dont like to score a goal which would have never happened in real life because every normal keeper would have run to the ball.
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Old 09-01-2009, 07:58 PM   #38 (permalink)
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4. Prediction:
The CPU knows the only possible direction you can move in and often will just run to a spot, in which 1-2 seconds later i end up in. If you are in fact quick enough to read the defense then i congratulate you but i have done this only to lose the ball due to the poor movement/acceleration.
EA, we don't need a cheating CPU. When can some difficulty setting be programmed thats not based on cheating and advantage/disadvantage?
Now I do agree with this one. The first touch mechanism is worthless against a CPU player because they somehow know which way it's going and cut me off to it. In real life they can't mark you so closely precisely because they don't know which way you might go.

All this talk about the keepers doesn't ring true to me. Bring your keep out early on break-aways at the risk of being chipped. I played keeper in high school and can tell you for the most part the keeping is fine. If you don't like being rushed by the keep then you need to practice chipping under pressure.
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:46 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I can't think of any red card offense that won't be called immediately...? Red card fouls are normally intentional, I'm talking about straight reds not second yellows.
It's usually one or the other, hardly ever both as that is just too harsh.

Juve - United 1999 semi final, Dwight yorke goes to round the keeper Peruzzi, gets brought down, looks to be a straight red and a penalty but Andy Cole came and tapped the ball in. Fair call, no red and United take the goal.

Arsenal - Barca CL final. Lehmann brings down Eto'o I think it was and someone else put the ball in the empty net, Ref opted to send off Lehmann and bring play back.

Either way common sense shows it should just be one or the other, but as the defending side you prob want to avoid the red card. So in the game my advice is if you're gonna hack at a last man make sure you bring him down so there isn't gonna be an advantage!
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Old 09-01-2009, 08:59 PM   #40 (permalink)
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yeh i agree the keepers can be annoying u can never take the ball round a keeper not proply nayway i also hate the exta touch it normally happans on crosses and it completely ****s up the cross or anytime really
i almost always get it round the keeper just dont try and do it inside box
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Old 09-01-2009, 10:00 PM   #41 (permalink)
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And CPU keepers stay always on their lines.
I dont like to score a goal which would have never happened in real life because every normal keeper would have run to the ball.
In my experience, if the keeper can beat the striker to the ball, he will almost always automatically run to get possesion. Now if your sure he can beat the striker ( or w/e player), just press the Triangle/Y button more often, which works perfectly fine in my experience.
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Old 09-01-2009, 11:02 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I struggle to beat keepers 1 on 1, probably score 1 in 5. I do kind of like it though because it encourages me to practice more.
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