Guide To Connect To Fifa With PS3 or XBOX

[djcorrosive]

hmm mine is wired from router to pc, and router to ps3,
Just wondering if this method still applies to me?

as sometimes joining a game i cant change teams etc so i need to exit that session and try again or they do the same, so just wondering if it will still apply to me even though it is NOT wireless?

[maxrom_21]

hi bro
hey i need some help plz my brother

i got a problem with the ps3 while playing online
i am able to get into matches and everything but i am not able to finish one, it always looses conection around minute 70 or 80, i am using a router and have a good connection speed and everything, but i am starting to get desperate not being able to complete a match
i am using a linksys by cisco wireless g boradband router

can you help me?

thanks from costa rica

[nicholas282]

Originally Posted by djcorrosive

hmm mine is wired from router to pc, and router to ps3,
Just wondering if this method still applies to me?

as sometimes joining a game i cant change teams etc so i need to exit that session and try again or they do the same, so just wondering if it will still apply to me even though it is NOT wireless?

If you have problems changing teams then yet it would apply to you too.

The router connected to your PS3 is the one you want to look into but I would suggest hooking it up to your PC for a while and try to alter it.

[nicholas282]

Originally Posted by maxrom_21

hi bro
hey i need some help plz my brother

i got a problem with the ps3 while playing online
i am able to get into matches and everything but i am not able to finish one, it always looses conection around minute 70 or 80, i am using a router and have a good connection speed and everything, but i am starting to get desperate not being able to complete a match
i am using a linksys by cisco wireless g boradband router

can you help me?

thanks from costa rica

OK, could I ask. Are you winning at the time the connection goes??

The reason I ask is if the other person is losing, they quit because they do not have any need to continue and so can't be bothered to play anymore.

[PtolemyIV]

Ok, I don't get this...

In your initial advice you say port forwarding the following to your xbox 360 / ps3 static ip address, including:
TCP 80 to 80

Now I did this without really thinking, and then realised I can no longer access my own routers web page since it automatically resides on port 80!

How can I get back to the router's page without fully resetting the router and losing all my other settings (router resides on 192.168.1.1 internally)

And are you sure we should be forwarding TCP 80 to the console?!!

[Ekfad]

Originally Posted by nicholas282

Great, another satisfied customer.

Limburg, I lived with my wife in West Vlaanderen, Izegem for 5 years before we moved here and I miss it allot.

Although now that Eve leterme is prime minister, who could not even get a government together, not so sure lol

I had the dutch ones already and did not know but they are awful.

I wish they would do one based Rik De Saedeleer, now that would be good because all the rest now are just boring. (Belgian ones I mean)

Anways, glad you got everything working, strange they are not in your manual.

Great, another Belgian!

How small the world is, i worked about 1,5 years for Winsol (stationed at Izegem) and my mother lifed for about 25 years in West Vlaanderen.

Rik de Saedeleer has done commentary before (think it was on This Is Footbal or adidas power soccer) but it wasn't fantastic either. So don't know if it would be an improvement on the Dutch coms.

Everything works fine now so thanks again. And if you want to hear a decent belgian F** Y** after you have scored a goal don't hesitate to join me on PS3 (Nick = ekfad)

Ok, I don't get this...

In your initial advice you say port forwarding the following to your xbox 360 / ps3 static ip address, including:
TCP 80 to 80

Now I did this without really thinking, and then realised I can no longer access my own routers web page since it automatically resides on port 80!

How can I get back to the router's page without fully resetting the router and losing all my other settings (router resides on 192.168.1.1 internally)

And are you sure we should be forwarding TCP 80 to the console?!!

Port 80 is used by al PSN games and also for the PSN account log-in, so normally that shouldn't harm anything.

And al you do with port forwarding is 'open' that port so i don't think that's the problem. Are you sure you haven't put your PS3 in DMZ? (You could try to login on your router from your PS3 (open webpage and enter your router adress ...)

[PtolemyIV]

Originally Posted by Ekfad

Port 80 is used by al PSN games and also for the PSN account log-in, so normally that shouldn't harm anything.

And al you do with port forwarding is 'open' that port so i don't think that's the problem. Are you sure you haven't put your PS3 in DMZ? (You could try to login on your router from your PS3 (open webpage and enter your router adress ...)

i have an xbox 360... actually with port forwarding you are not just opening a port - you are saying 'any data that arrives on port xx please forward to this internal ip address' - hence my router is now automatically forwarding any data on tcp 80 to my xbox 360 and I can no longer access the router's webpage!

its extremely frustrating and amazed that this was a suggestion in the guide since presumably it will create a common problem for many users... anyone know work around with fully resetting all the routers settings?? Thanks.

[nicholas282]

Originally Posted by PtolemyIV

i have an xbox 360... actually with port forwarding you are not just opening a port - you are saying 'any data that arrives on port xx please forward to this internal ip address' - hence my router is now automatically forwarding any data on tcp 80 to my xbox 360 and I can no longer access the router's webpage!

its extremely frustrating and amazed that this was a suggestion in the guide since presumably it will create a common problem for many users... anyone know work around with fully resetting all the routers settings?? Thanks.

What IP address have you used as Static???

Is this the same address as the router?? It has to be different. It also cannot conflict with any other address and devices that you use.

The port is only open for the IP address you use as static.

So if you have, just to say - 192.168.1.1 as your router and then 192.168.1.2 as you PC and then say 192.168.1.4 as your PS3, make that static and open all the ports on that address.

It must be different from your router address as it will conflict and not let you enter the router settings.

[PtolemyIV]

Originally Posted by nicholas282

What IP address have you used as Static???

Is this the same address as the router?? It has to be different. It also cannot conflict with any other address and devices that you use.

The port is only open for the IP address you use as static.

So if you have, just to say - 192.168.1.1 as your router and then 192.168.1.2 as you PC and then say 192.168.1.4 as your PS3, make that static and open all the ports on that address.

It must be different from your router address as it will conflict and not let you enter the router settings.

I have 192.168.1.1 for router and xbox 360 set as static on 192.168.1.121

Now, in the main router (linksys wrt54gs) there is a page called port forwarding - this allows you to define rules based upon the port of incoming data - hence a game that requires port 1291 should have data on port 1291 forwarding to the xbox 360 ip address (192.168.1.121)

my understanding is you cannot just 'open' port 1291 on ip address 192.168.1.121 - the real world obviously does not see this address - it just sees the public address of your router connected to the net (e.g. 92.182.x.x) and for any data coming on port 1291 your router needs to know where to forward this to.

let me know if you see things differently but i do not see any option to just open ports for specific ip addresses in the router... anyway my first problem is to figure out how to access my router page again since its automatically port forwarding everything on 80 now to the xbox!! so very annoying..

anyway, appreciate your assistance.

[nicholas282]

You router has a range, this will be from 192.168.1.1 to 198.192.1.124 or something like that.

EVERY device that connects to your router, gets a different address.

It can use these addresses and let other devices running from your router to one of those IP addresses and the ports are then only opened on that IP address.

If you reset your router, this will solve the router access problem.

You HAVE to set a static IP address to set these ports on as you have said, it will lock all incoming data if you used them on your router address.

I would try using 192.168.1.66 and not such a high number as the low and high numbers at the end of the address are often kept for admin purposes.

[PtolemyIV]

Originally Posted by nicholas282

You router has a range, this will be from 192.168.1.1 to 198.192.1.124 or something like that.

EVERY device that connects to your router, gets a different address.

Agreed

Originally Posted by nicholas282

It can use these addresses and let other devices running from your router to one of those IP addresses and the ports are then only opened on that IP address.

Not sure if i follow this statement.

this page Port Forwarding for the Linksys WRT54G shows the settings on my router.

So I have router on 192.168.1.1 and xbox set with static ip on 192.168.1.121

Now with available settings as per bottom pic on the link above I can enter a rule saying "Start Port = 80, End Port = 80, Protocal = TCP, IP = 192.168.1.121"

What this means is that ALL external data coming in on port 80 WILL be forwarded to 192.168.1.121 ONLY. It does not just open this port on IP address 192.168.1.121, it says all data on this port goes there.

Let me know if you disagree but this is my strong interpretation so it seems to me that you automatically risk causes all external data on port 80 to only go to your xbox 360/ps3.

Originally Posted by nicholas282

If you reset your router, this will solve the router access problem.

Agreed,but was hoping i could e.g. putty into my router or there was a manual override to prevent me having to lose all my other settings and port forwarding rules.

My point is that (I believe) I understand port forwarding and use it for a number of purposes already - it just seems to me that port forwarding port 80 is kind of crazy and could cause problems as it has done for me.

Originally Posted by nicholas282

You HAVE to set a static IP address to set these ports on as you have said, it will lock all incoming data if you used them on your router address.

I would try using 192.168.1.66 and not such a high number as the low and high numbers at the end of the address are often kept for admin purposes.

Explain why you HAVE to? If your router consistently re-allocates the same IP to the same device (based upon mac address) without that device itself having a static IP set then it should work fine.

Please explain "it will lock all incoming data if you used them on your router address." - maybe I am (and hope I am) missing something here!

Thanks.

[nicholas282]

the reason you have to set a static IP is that the ports are then linked to that IP. Otherwise it will use a random ip within the range every time you try to connect to the internet. So there for not allocating the ports to that specific ip.

When you allocate ports, it will allocate them to the ip that is set as standard on your router and not any of the random ip addresses.

Try changing your static ip as I said, to a more mid number that your console would normally use as in 192.168.1.66

[PtolemyIV]

Originally Posted by nicholas282

the reason you have to set a static IP is that the ports are then linked to that IP. Otherwise it will use a random ip within the range every time you try to connect to the internet. So there for not allocating the ports to that specific ip.

When you allocate ports, it will allocate them to the ip that is set as standard on your router and not any of the random ip addresses.

Try changing your static ip as I said, to a more mid number that your console would normally use as in 192.168.1.66

You set it so that the ports are forwarded to a certain IP. As long as that same device is ALWAYS given the same IP then it works the same. i.e. if my router always gives my xbox 360 an ip of 192.168.1.121 then it can work fine.. I use this for my pc with no problems. As to the suggestion of using a lower IP address, this will not make any difference as long as you ensure there are no conflicting IPs which there are not.

Can you comment on my other points below? My view is that with port forwarding you are requesting ALL data for a specific port to ONLY go to the one IP address you specify - this is different to your view that you are 'opening' ports on specific IP addresses.

For instance if you have an xbox 360 (192.168.1.66, say) and a PS3 (192.168.1.67) you CANNOT port forward port 80 to both these devices - my understanding is you have to CHOOSE one or the other - agreed or not?

[nicholas282]

No I do not agree because each port you olalalalala for a certain IP.

So if you open 192.168.1.66, then link port 80 to that, it is only for that IP and not for any other IP that you access on your router.

So you can open 192.168.1.66 and link port 80 and then open 192.168.1.67 and link port 80 as all the ports that you open are linked to that one IP.

When you open a port it is a set of ports that are linked to one IP, and not just your router.

So lets say it simple. You buy a lottery ticket and it has 49 numbers to pick from, and you want to play those numbers again, you have to buy another lottery ticket to do that.

So imagine the IP address is a lottery ticket and your port numbers are lottery numbers

I hope that clears it up.

[PtolemyIV]

Originally Posted by nicholas282

No I do not agree because each port you olalalalala for a certain IP.

So if you open 192.168.1.66, then link port 80 to that, it is only for that IP and not for any other IP that you access on your router.

So you can open 192.168.1.66 and link port 80 and then open 192.168.1.67 and link port 80 as all the ports that you open are linked to that one IP.

When you open a port it is a set of ports that are linked to one IP, and not just your router.

So lets say it simple. You buy a lottery ticket and it has 49 numbers to pick from, and you want to play those numbers again, you have to buy another lottery ticket to do that.

So imagine the IP address is a lottery ticket and your port numbers are lottery numbers

I hope that clears it up.

Ok, I'm giving up on my own problem - from further investigation it actually seems that the ports you list in the first post are actually just for the PS3 version?! nor do i see mention of them in the xbox 360 manual. Can you clarify this for others if this is indeed the case?

On the main discussion point, I believe you are actually incorrect. In my view:

You CANNOT link port 80 to IP 192.168.1.66 AND 192.168.1.67

Contract to your belief, what you are actually doing is telling your router where to forward ALL port 80 traffic... (since external computers do not see the local ip addresses)

See for instance this webpage that agrees with my view - portforward.com forum - How do I forward the SAME port to 2 Computers?

Hence the moral of this story (as I have found to unfortunate effect) is that you should be very careful port forwarding such a common port as #80 to your PS3 - it is frequently used for webservers and therefore can prevent you from accessing your router's page as in my case.

Do appreciate your quick responses etc, and its just an interesting discussion to have so we understand exactly what is happening with these changes..

[nicholas282]

I have ports forwarded on 4 ip addresses and all have the same ports forwarded.

I am not sure where that link got its info from but I have had no problem and other neither.

I have the port 80 open on all these ip address and have no problem and no connection issues.

It should say the same ports on your XBOX as on my PS3 as they are ports that EA uses for you to access the game.

[PtolemyIV]

Originally Posted by nicholas282

I have ports forwarded on 4 ip addresses and all have the same ports forwarded.

I am not sure where that link got its info from but I have had no problem and other neither.

I have the port 80 open on all these ip address and have no problem and no connection issues.

It should say the same ports on your XBOX as on my PS3 as they are ports that EA uses for you to access the game.

Strange I have looked through the manual for XBOX and no mention of ports at all! Page 20 is disclaimer at back. Are you on PS3? How confident are you that these ports are required for Xbox also -

my issue is that I can connect to plays okay but it is extremely laggy/jerky whereas all other xblive games are perfect (im on virgin 20mb down, 1mb upload) - do you think this may solve that?

[nicholas282]

Originally Posted by PtolemyIV

Strange I have looked through the manual for XBOX and no mention of ports at all! Page 20 is disclaimer at back. Are you on PS3? How confident are you that these ports are required for Xbox also -

my issue is that I can connect to plays okay but it is extremely laggy/jerky whereas all other xblive games are perfect (im on virgin 20mb down, 1mb upload) - do you think this may solve that?

Are you able to connect to games at ALL times???

The lag and jerkyness is often put down to one of the players having a bad connection. As the game tries to make both connections equal and in this case it is slowing yours down.

See 1v1 is based on the person you are playing and your connection. So you use their connection and they use yours I think.

Whereas other online gaming options are run from EA servers.

You may find the ports a couple of pages back from where you are looking as the book may be different.

I have found that some FIFA owners even have different ports but the ones I have listed have worked and the ones they have gotten from the manual do not.

[Ekfad]

Originally Posted by PtolemyIV

i have an xbox 360... actually with port forwarding you are not just opening a port - you are saying 'any data that arrives on port xx please forward to this internal ip address' - hence my router is now automatically forwarding any data on tcp 80 to my xbox 360 and I can no longer access the router's webpage!

its extremely frustrating and amazed that this was a suggestion in the guide since presumably it will create a common problem for many users... anyone know work around with fully resetting all the routers settings?? Thanks.

Well, it depends on your router. Some call it port forwarding, others virtual servers. In your case you're right. But like said before, you have to forward it for your PS3, not for your router

[PtolemyIV]

Originally Posted by Ekfad

Well, it depends on your router. Some call it port forwarding, others virtual servers. In your case you're right. But like said before, you have to forward it for your PS3, not for your router

Yep, don't worry managed to fix it - turns out it was a bug on linksys routers with certain dd-wrt firmware when trying to port forward port 80.

Thanks for the help / dialogue guys... impressed with responsiveness on this forum! Just need to get accustomed to the game itself now so i actually enjoy it without getting frustrated by the seeming lack of response...

[Pilibe]

sometimes i can play but sometimes appears: "this game session is no longer available''
would this tutorial solve this problem?
my internet speed is 2mb and i use router

[nicholas282]

Originally Posted by PtolemyIV

Yep, don't worry managed to fix it - turns out it was a bug on linksys routers with certain dd-wrt firmware when trying to port forward port 80.

Thanks for the help / dialogue guys... impressed with responsiveness on this forum! Just need to get accustomed to the game itself now so i actually enjoy it without getting frustrated by the seeming lack of response...

I knew there must have been something wrong as it is odd that you could not get it going.

All ended well anyway, you are welcome.

[nicholas282]

Originally Posted by Pilibe

sometimes i can play but sometimes appears: "this game session is no longer available''
would this tutorial solve this problem?
my internet speed is 2mb and i use router

Yes it will help if you are having this sort of problem.

Routers seem to cause hell with games that access the internet and as EA games need so many ports open, it makes it even worse.

Your connection is not the fastest but there are others on here with a 1mb connection and it has helped them, so I am under the assumption that you should be no different.

Any help needed or any questions then please post here again and I or someone will answer your questions.

[BFSfootball]

Hey im from Australia
and i use NetGear so i dno really wat to do?
some help thnx mate much aprreciated

[nicholas282]

Originally Posted by BFSfootball

Hey im from Australia
and i use NetGear so i dno really wat to do?
some help thnx mate much aprreciated

Hi,

check inside your book and see what ports they have but I am assuming they are the same as the ones I listed on the first post.