BluChampBlogger's Ultimate Guide To Realistic Football in FIFA 09 - Page 2

menatwork14 · 07-11-2008, 09:30 AM

hey can anyone tell me how do i off adidas live season?
thanks

Shanice1973P · 07-11-2008, 09:32 AM

I need to try this and and play a few matches and report back.

Do we edit the goalkeepers two attributes of acceleration and sprint speed or just all the outfield players?

bluchampblogger · 07-11-2008, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostarac1802

With all of this working fine, I guess the next step would be to edit CERTAIN PLAYERS according to their realistic capabilities, because we all know that this is not entirely "spot on".

BANG ON! That's my next project!

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by menatwork14

care to share ur custom tactics for madrid n milan monsterarc?
cheers

Here are my REALISTIC GAMEPLAY STYLE AS IN REAL LIFE tactics for Milan and Real (for CPU to use):

AC MILAN

Build up

speed - 40
passing - 30
organised

chance creation

passing - 75
crossing - 40 - 50
shooting - 65 - 70
free form

defence

pressure 25
aggression 65 - 70
team width 35 - 40

offsidetrap

Its very realistic, and with the pace attributes lowered by 15, or even 18 its amazing how they play.

REAL MADRID

Build up

speed 35 - 40
passing 30
organised

chance creation

passing - 60 - 65
crossing - 70 - 75
shooting - 75 - 80
organised/freeform both work (maybe free form could be better)

defence

pressure 35
aggression 70 - 75 (finesse choice)
team width 45 - 55 (finesse choice)

cover

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mostarac1802

With all of this working fine, I guess the next step would be to edit CERTAIN PLAYERS according to their realistic capabilities, because we all know that this is not entirely "spot on".

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluchampblogger

BANG ON! That's my next project!

I am glad you liked this idea, because it seems we have a similar way of thinking you and I. I really want to make this game as interesting as possible.

Lets work on this new thing..

menatwork14 · 07-11-2008, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by menatwork14

hey can anyone tell me how do i off adidas live season?
thanks

ANYONE?
appreciate it

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 09:57 AM

Some facts on some players (for individual realistic editing), IMO:

G.neville - solid passer, not perfect reactions, can lose ball often, can be outruned, can lose possesion but no so often.

Vidic - good on the ball, but can lose possesion, good passer, good long passer, but also good in winning the ball, reactions, not always ideal, so & so.

Ramos - Good on the ball, good short and long passer, good on winning the ball, cannot be outruned easily, but thinks to much durin play (which means you could alter his mentality)

Nani - good passer, can lose possesion, good crosser, good shooter but not too accurate.

Rooney - good runner but can lose possessions, good shooter, mostly accurate but can go wrong, always accurate in passes.

And basicly, its things like that. So when you go ahead and edit these players, you will undoubtfully have the best gameplay experience yet!

I am at work now, but i cant wait to get home try this out. Itll be a lot of fun.

Enjoy guys.

When i come up with suggestions, i will post them, and so will bluchampblogger i am almost sure of.

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by menatwork14

ANYONE?
appreciate it

Did you check out the tactics that I posted for you?
For Milan and Real?

menatwork14 · 07-11-2008, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostarac1802

Did you check out the tactics that I posted for you?
For Milan and Real?

yes i did,yet to try it out thou.
as i have been busy tweaking my players attributes.

one question though,bluchamp said he dosent play with adidas live season does that mean after editing i gotta turn my off?

and how do i off live season.

cheers mate

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by menatwork14

ANYONE?
appreciate it

The only solution, is to DELETE all fifa files you have saved on ps3, (unfortunately), and start a new session of fifa, where you choose all the specifications (like difficulty, and so on.... and there it ASKS you again, do you want live season, so basicly you pass on that this time.

cheers. Its the only way I think.

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostarac1802

The only solution, is to DELETE all fifa files you have saved on ps3, (unfortunately), and start a new session of fifa, where you choose all the specifications (like difficulty, and so on.... and there it ASKS you again, do you want live season, so basicly you pass on that this time.

cheers. Its the only way I think.

But DOUBLE CHECK IT before you do it, dont wanna lose your files there....

Or dont do any major tweaking yet..

menatwork14 · 07-11-2008, 10:08 AM

damn,seems tedious.

anw appreciate it

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 10:09 AM

But double check it first.

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 10:10 AM

Hey guys,

Lets all POST SOME FACTS from "real life" on key players, so we can all look at it and do our separate/individual tweaks.

If somebody has some new info on CERTAIN PLAYER REAL LIFE CAPABILITES post them here, for all to read please, thanks.

I posted my share for now.

Some facts on some players (for individual realistic editing), IMO:

G.neville - solid passer, not perfect reactions, can lose ball often, can be outruned, can lose possesion but no so often.

Vidic - good on the ball, but can lose possesion, good passer, good long passer, but also good in winning the ball, reactions, not always ideal, so & so.

Ramos - Good on the ball, good short and long passer, good on winning the ball, cannot be outruned easily, but thinks to much durin play (which means you could alter his mentality)

Nani - good passer, can lose possesion, good crosser, good shooter but not too accurate.

Rooney - good runner but can lose possessions, good shooter, mostly accurate but can go wrong, always accurate in passes.

And basicly, its things like that. So when you go ahead and edit these players, you will undoubtfully have the best gameplay experience yet!

I am at work now, but i cant wait to get home try this out. Itll be a lot of fun.

Enjoy guys.

When i come up with suggestions, i will post them, and so will bluchampblogger i am almost sure of.

cheers and enjoy.

F00tieFanat1c · 07-11-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by menatwork14

yes i did,yet to try it out thou.
as i have been busy tweaking my players attributes.

one question though,bluchamp said he dosent play with adidas live season does that mean after editing i gotta turn my off?

and how do i off live season.

cheers mate

On 360 go to My FIFA 09 General Settings, Advanced, and then go to the last tab and you can turn it off there.

Should be similar on PS3

bluchampblogger · 07-11-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostarac1802

Hey guys,

Lets all POST SOME FACTS from "real life" on key players, so we can all look at it and do our separate/individual tweaks.

When i come up with suggestions, i will post them, and so will bluchampblogger i am almost sure of.

cheers and enjoy.

Mostarac . . I think we are skipping a couple of steps here. We should wait until people try out the sprint speed / acceleration tweak and find it satisfactory. After we are done with that, we can have separate discussion for the tweaking of individual player attributes. What do you say? Meanwhile, you can post your experiences of the new gameplay in tweaked speeds.

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluchampblogger

Mostarac . . I think we are skipping a couple of steps here. We should wait until people try out the sprint speed / acceleration tweak and find it satisfactory. After we are done with that, we can have separate discussion for the tweaking of individual player attributes. What do you say? Meanwhile, you can post your experiences of the new gameplay in tweaked speeds.

Yes, you're right. There's no need to rush in. We can talk about it later when people get the hang of this first. I agree.

But its certainly a concept worth paying attention thouroughly later.

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 11:01 AM

However, i have another idea regarding the tweaking of acceleration/sprint. I thought about this a lot. Basicly the concept is that the combination of these too produces the "gamepace". In real life not all players have identical acceleration and sprint speed. I was considering in taking one player, and playing around with the "proportion" or the corelation (or relativness), of his acceleration/sprint speed attributes and see how it affects him...

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 11:04 AM

For example,

How does a player run, if his acceleration is quite LOW, while his sprint speed is HIGH? Or vice versa? And what effect it has on "gamepace"?

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 11:05 AM

We need to think this through, and when its done, then we can figure out, the average corelation of these two attributtes for ANY TEAM.

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 11:08 AM

The formula for this is basicly:

X acceleration + Y sprint speed = value A

Y acceleration + X sprint speed = value B

X being here the lower value, and Y being the higher value of attribute.

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 11:10 AM

By changing the value of the X/Y parameters, we would constantly get different results of the GAMEPACE. Which is exactly what we are looking for here. To control and set the gamepace to our liking.

mostarac1802 · 07-11-2008, 11:18 AM

In other words, we dont have to reduce/increase both of these attributtes by the same amount. It can be different. Depending what gamepace you want to achieve.

Makgyver · 07-11-2008, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shanice1973P

Do we edit the goalkeepers two attributes of acceleration and sprint speed or just all the outfield players?

I was wondering the same thing. For anyone who has started making the edits, are you doing the goalkeepers too? I would think you would want to apply the same decrease for everyone to keep it consistent. Is there any reason not to do it for the keepers?

bluchampblogger · 07-11-2008, 11:51 AM

Not doing for the goalkeepers. Anyway, they don't get to run so much. For the amount of running they do, these attributes mean less, unless they come up for the last minute corner and they need to run back to the goal. Still it won't matter as it would be a long shot which is never going to be stopped by him.

07-11-2008, 09:32 AM	#27 (permalink)
Shanice1973P Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 14	I need to try this and and play a few matches and report back. Do we edit the goalkeepers two attributes of acceleration and sprint speed or just all the outfield players? __________________ We all follow the Chelsea Over land and sea - And Leicester!

07-11-2008, 11:51 AM	#50 (permalink)
bluchampblogger Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 565 Blog Entries: 5	Not doing for the goalkeepers. Anyway, they don't get to run so much. For the amount of running they do, these attributes mean less, unless they come up for the last minute corner and they need to run back to the goal. Still it won't matter as it would be a long shot which is never going to be stopped by him. __________________

07-11-2008, 09:30 AM	#26 (permalink)
menatwork14 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 12	hey can anyone tell me how do i off adidas live season? thanks

07-11-2008, 09:57 AM	#32 (permalink)
mostarac1802 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 219	Some facts on some players (for individual realistic editing), IMO: *G.neville* - solid passer, not perfect reactions, can lose ball often, can be outruned, can lose possesion but no so often. *Vidic* - good on the ball, but can lose possesion, good passer, good long passer, but also good in winning the ball, reactions, not always ideal, so & so. *Ramos* - Good on the ball, good short and long passer, good on winning the ball, cannot be outruned easily, but thinks to much durin play (which means you could alter his mentality) *Nani* - good passer, can lose possesion, good crosser, good shooter but not too accurate. Rooney - good runner but can lose possessions, good shooter, mostly accurate but can go wrong, always accurate in passes. And basicly, its things like that. So when you go ahead and edit these players, you will undoubtfully have the best gameplay experience yet! I am at work now, but i cant wait to get home try this out. Itll be a lot of fun. Enjoy guys. When i come up with suggestions, i will post them, and so will bluchampblogger i am almost sure of.

07-11-2008, 10:08 AM	#37 (permalink)
menatwork14 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 12	damn,seems tedious. anw appreciate it

07-11-2008, 10:09 AM	#38 (permalink)
mostarac1802 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 219	But double check it first.

07-11-2008, 10:10 AM	#39 (permalink)
mostarac1802 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 219	Hey guys, Lets all POST SOME FACTS from "real life" on key players, so we can all look at it and do our separate/individual tweaks. If somebody has some new info on CERTAIN PLAYER REAL LIFE CAPABILITES post them here, for all to read please, thanks. I posted my share for now. Some facts on some players (for individual realistic editing), IMO: *G.neville* - solid passer, not perfect reactions, can lose ball often, can be outruned, can lose possesion but no so often. *Vidic* - good on the ball, but can lose possesion, good passer, good long passer, but also good in winning the ball, reactions, not always ideal, so & so. *Ramos* - Good on the ball, good short and long passer, good on winning the ball, cannot be outruned easily, but thinks to much durin play (which means you could alter his mentality) *Nani* - good passer, can lose possesion, good crosser, good shooter but not too accurate. Rooney - good runner but can lose possessions, good shooter, mostly accurate but can go wrong, always accurate in passes. And basicly, its things like that. So when you go ahead and edit these players, you will undoubtfully have the best gameplay experience yet! I am at work now, but i cant wait to get home try this out. Itll be a lot of fun. Enjoy guys. When i come up with suggestions, i will post them, and so will bluchampblogger i am almost sure of. cheers and enjoy.

07-11-2008, 11:01 AM	#43 (permalink)
mostarac1802 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 219	However, i have another idea regarding the tweaking of acceleration/sprint. I thought about this a lot. Basicly the concept is that the combination of these too produces the "gamepace". In real life not all players have identical acceleration and sprint speed. I was considering in taking one player, and playing around with the "proportion" or the corelation (or relativness), of his acceleration/sprint speed attributes and see how it affects him...

07-11-2008, 11:04 AM	#44 (permalink)
mostarac1802 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 219	For example, How does a player run, if his acceleration is quite LOW, while his sprint speed is HIGH? Or vice versa? And what effect it has on "gamepace"?

07-11-2008, 11:05 AM	#45 (permalink)
mostarac1802 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 219	We need to think this through, and when its done, then we can figure out, the average corelation of these two attributtes for ANY TEAM.

07-11-2008, 11:08 AM	#46 (permalink)
mostarac1802 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 219	The formula for this is basicly: X acceleration + Y sprint speed = value A Y acceleration + X sprint speed = value B X being here the lower value, and Y being the higher value of attribute.

07-11-2008, 11:10 AM	#47 (permalink)
mostarac1802 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 219	By changing the value of the X/Y parameters, we would constantly get different results of the GAMEPACE. Which is exactly what we are looking for here. To control and set the gamepace to our liking.

07-11-2008, 11:18 AM	#48 (permalink)
mostarac1802 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 219	In other words, we dont have to reduce/increase both of these attributtes by the same amount. It can be different. Depending what gamepace you want to achieve.