Custom tactics suggestions for realistic gameplay in FIFA 09

bluchampblogger · 20-10-2008, 07:45 PM

In my previous post, I had talked about how some tweaking of the custom tactics for the opponent teams would make this game absolutely brilliant with variety and randomness. Thanks for your overwhelming response for that idea. As a result of your support, now I'm going to suggest you some custom tactic set ups for various types of opponents. My basic assumption is that you would be playing for a top team or a champions league team.

Relegation battlers: Let's see how they normally play. Primarily, draw is a great result for them. They may not have matching skill or pace to weave an attack from back to front too often. They would go for route one football of hoofing it up to the target men or in the D-area in some hope. They may not be tactically sound in defending and organisation but they would make it up with spirited tackles and interceptions. They would defend in numbers while leaving very few in attack. They would cross a lot and given the opportunity, they'd rather shoot instead of wasting it with a hopeful further build up play. Build Up - Speed: 40 Passing: 85 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 30 Crossing: 80 Shooting: 55 Positioning: Organised. Defence - Pressure: 35 Aggression: 75 Team width: 20 Defender Line: Cover.

In build-up, they're slow and long. That means when they have the ball in their own half, they won't hurry up the attack and that they use a lot of long balls. Because they'll use long balls, their attackers would position themselves to receive the long passes, which might give you some space in the midfield. In chance creation, they pass safely, cross and shoot a lot. In defence, they won't chase you when you're in your half but will get involved as you get closer to your final third. They're also very aggressive in winning the ball from you. They wouldn't mind a crunching tackle. Defender line should be set to cover if you want a challenging game.

Mid-tablers: Must be pretty average in attack and should concentrate on defending. They might have one or two star players and the rest should be decent but may not be good enough. I'd make quicker than the relegation battlers in build up speed. I'll make it 50. The passing in build up should be 70 which means both short passes and long passes but still more of the latter. In chance creation I'd expect them to take more risks in passing so that would be 50 and I'd keep the crossing at 80 and bring down the shooting to 40 as I think they are more comfortable on the ball than the relegation battlers. In defence, I'd bring down the pressure to 30 as it would help with a quicker build up play, if the ball is won. I'd keep the aggression at 75 as I think that's the ideal setting for aggression across all teams. I can put the team width to 30 as the defenders could be a bit better and hence should be able to make up the lateral distance. Build Up - Speed: 50 Passing: 70 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 50 Crossing: 80 Shooting: 40 Positioning: Organised. Defence - Pressure: 30 Aggression: 75 Team width: 30 Defender Line: Cover.

Euro-aspirants: These are good teams that may not have those five star players but still can give a great challenge to the biggies. They should have some skillful players and can be pacy. I'll give them a 60 in build up play speed and passing in build up should be 55 or 60. This means they can play short passes as well as long passes. It's more situational. The riskiness of passing in chance creation must be 65, which means they'll go for the risky passes but they might have the players to back it up. Crossing should be 55 or 60 while shooting can be 50 or 60. Basically, they'll rely less on crossing and more on passing and shooting. This could be different in various leagues, so I suggest you make you appropriate customisations. In positioning in chance creation, you can make it 'free form' for certain teams which would make the game lot more interesting and random. Pressure and aggression should remain as 30 and 75 respectively while the team width can be 40 or 45, which will help them cut down our crosses. I suggest you alwasy have the defender line as 'cover' across all teams. Build Up - Speed: 60 Passing: 60 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 65 Crossing: 55 Shooting: 60 Positioning: Freeform. Defence - Pressure: 30 Aggression: 75 Team width: 40. Defender Line: Cover.

For the champions league teams, especially the so-called big teams, the custom tactics set up for build up and chance creation is almost perfect already. But since the defence sliders are messed up, you might have to change that alone for them. Once again, pressure can be 30 and aggression 75. For a team like Chelsea if you set the aggression slider to 75, they might be a massive challenge to your attackers, because they have a top class defence and most of the team could tackle rather well. The team width can be 50 for teams which uses wing backs and 40 otherwise.

If you don't know already, there are only 28 slots for saving custom tactics. That's a shame. Anyway, I'm using it this way. 3 slots for my team (Chelsea), 1 for relegation battlers, 1 for mid-tablers, 1 for Euro-aspirants and 18 other slots for specific top teams which are Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City (love 'em or hate 'em, you can't ignore 'em!), Real Madrid, Barca, Sevilla, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Villareal, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Roma, Fiorentina, Bayern, Lyon and Porto. Now this leaves 4 empty slots which can be used for the in-game tactical changes.

So I'll have unique tactic setups for the above mentioned top teams and the other teams in English, Spanish and Italian leagues would get one of the tactics of (a) relegation battlers (b) mid-tablers (c) euro aspirants. As long as I've the teams fixed in the premier league, la liga and serie a, I'm fine. These leagues account for 90% of my matches. This might have left some leagues untouched. That's fine. Either I don't use them or I'm fine with the occasional random match where I can run past the defence through the centre. May be, I'd be playing samba football by then that I'd not think of route ones!

XBOX 3760 users - These tactics are saved in my FIFA 09 locker (XBL: bluechampblogger)

PS3 users - Click on the below image and update the values manually.

P.S: The slider values are ased on my own opinions and preferences. Please change it for yourself if you wish. Don't need to bash me but certainly we can have a matured discussion on what the sliders should be. But I have tested the above values and they work for me superbly.

bluchampblogger · 20-10-2008, 08:42 PM

Ok then, did you apply these slider values? Please share your experiences with us!

Joobieo · 20-10-2008, 08:44 PM

Mine are different for one I wouldn't suggest putting presser so high, if you do you just get brunt by fast strikers.

- Joobieo

nkfootball · 20-10-2008, 08:48 PM

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO **** ABOUT WITH THE GAME TO MAKE IT PLAY FOOTBALL!!!! This game is broken.

bluchampblogger · 20-10-2008, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nkfootball

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO **** ABOUT WITH THE GAME TO MAKE IT PLAY FOOTBALL!!!! This game is broken.

So what, let's just try to fix it. After all, when I fixed it, I'm enjoying it thoroughly. I'm just trying let other know the trick as well. We are not here to prove a point on EA's game making abilities. I want a top quality football game - I got it from EA and I'm just polishing it a bit for myself.

bluchampblogger · 20-10-2008, 09:38 PM

bump

Dyfs · 20-10-2008, 10:01 PM

This looks really interesting! thanks for putting in the effort and posting this!

Could you post the specific settings for the big teams i.e. Liverpool, Chelsea, e.t.c ??

Crash2772 · 20-10-2008, 10:15 PM

Can these be implemented after a MM has begun, so the changes still take place? Or do we have to restart our MM?

bluchampblogger · 20-10-2008, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash2772

Can these be implemented after a MM has begun, so the changes still take place? Or do we have to restart our MM?

Most probably, you might have to restart the MM. What I suggest is, just make the changes for one team and play that team as your opponent and then see if throughballs are still crazily effective. If you find it useful, then it's certainly worth restarting the MM.

bluchampblogger · 20-10-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joobieo

Mine are different for one I wouldn't suggest putting presser so high, if you do you just get brunt by fast strikers.

- Joobieo

The pressure is not high. It's only in the range of 30-35. I think that's reasonable. Don't you think so?

elpichichi1983 · 20-10-2008, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluchampblogger

So what, let's just try to fix it. After all, when I fixed it, I'm enjoying it thoroughly. I'm just trying let other know the trick as well. We are not here to prove a point on EA's game making abilities. I want a top quality football game - I got it from EA and I'm just polishing it a bit for myself.

good post (first one), but i need to disagree with you here.
see, what i hate about the game the most, is the defence.
I dont want my defence to play, almost at the halfway line (how is it called in english please?)
i want them to play deep, i always want 5 people BEHIND the ball.
i've tried EVERY custom tactic, sliders possible but when WE get the ball, the defence just
push up 'till the halfway line. how stupid is that? thats committing suicide with guys like torres. ther's NO WAY to let your defence just play like 5-10 m BEHIND the halfway line as i DONT wanna play offside!! it just doesnt work, you have to press twice on the d-pad, tapping it wont work, you really have to press it twice. only if the other player is blind, stupid or has arthrosis it's working, otherwise you get raped.

lungfull · 21-10-2008, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyfs

Could you post the specific settings for the big teams i.e. Liverpool, Chelsea, e.t.c ??

yea can we have your suggestions for the big teams please....another great post by the way.....now all i/we need to do is decide which teams go in which brackets..lol

elpichichi1983 · 21-10-2008, 01:33 AM

oh and, bluchampblogger, try playing some games online, see if your tactics still work...
i'm not tryna diss ya, but your tactics work pretty good OFFLINE but online tactics are bull****. try using tactics when someone presses you on the WHOLE field with his robot players (mufc f.e.), steals the ball away, just blind pass it twice, gives an automatic blind long ball and outruns you with berbatov or rooney for an easy 1 on 1. basically i've just resumed online play...

lungfull · 21-10-2008, 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elpichichi1983

oh and, bluchampblogger, try playing some games online, see if your tactics still work...
i'm not tryna diss ya, but your tactics work pretty good OFFLINE but online tactics are bull****. try using tactics when someone presses you on the WHOLE field with his robot players (mufc f.e.), steals the ball away, just blind pass it twice, gives an automatic blind long ball and outruns you with berbatov or rooney for an easy 1 on 1. basically i've just resumed online play...

to be fair to him he does actually say they are for offline play

lungfull · 21-10-2008, 03:08 AM

i've put together a list for which premier league teams should go with which tactic....based on current league positions and last years end of season table...

Relegation battlers:
Bolton
Stoke
Wigan
West brom
Fullham

Mid-tablers:
Boro
Sunderland (just)
Spurs
Hull
Blackburn
West ham
Newcastle

Euro-aspirants:
Everton
Aston villa
Man City
Portsmouth
and of course the big four have their own...

i've done this for the other english leagues, i assume that for lower leagues the euro-aspirants tactics would transfer over to promotion candidates...as the standard of the players is still goin to make a difference....

have also done this for the other big leagues in the game....if ya want me to post up those lists for ya'll to check out let me know.....

of course everyone will have dif opinions...but this is what i think...

anyway cheers for reading!!!!

Trequartista · 21-10-2008, 03:28 AM

What kind of custom tactics would allow me to score a teamwork goals like this and get very smart movement off the ball?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R_iYLca2gc

cfcfrancodisanto · 21-10-2008, 03:44 AM

holy christ that is an amazing goal. i dont think that is simulatable(sp?)that is a very sad thing too because that is simply amazing.

Trequartista · 21-10-2008, 03:47 AM

Look at these old PES goals, especially the Argentina one, the movement off the ball is pretty superb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZPxUPQkymI

Imagine the old PES gameplay with the Fifa engine, I hope EA look into it, it would be the best football game ever.

What custom tactics can make this type of football possible?

cfcfrancodisanto · 21-10-2008, 03:52 AM

that seems to be like it would be a superb game, since the game runs too fast with top teams for me, i just play with qpr sometimes and it is so much more enjoyable.

toopgui88 · 21-10-2008, 05:18 AM

Kudos on another great post! I think we should all work on getting team specific tactics for every English Premier league team! I will start tomorrow...

wipsnadepoo · 21-10-2008, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lungfull

i've put together a list for which premier league teams should go with which tactic....based on current league positions and last years end of season table...

Relegation battlers:
Bolton
Stoke
Wigan
West brom
Fullham

Mid-tablers:
Boro
Sunderland (just)
Spurs
Hull
Blackburn
West ham
Newcastle

Euro-aspirants:
Everton
Aston villa
Man City
Portsmouth
and of course the big four have their own...

i've done this for the other english leagues, i assume that for lower leagues the euro-aspirants tactics would transfer over to promotion candidates...as the standard of the players is still goin to make a difference....

have also done this for the other big leagues in the game....if ya want me to post up those lists for ya'll to check out let me know.....

of course everyone will have dif opinions...but this is what i think...

anyway cheers for reading!!!!

yes if you have the time the other big leagues would be brilliant mate =)

Trequartista · 21-10-2008, 06:37 AM

For Serie A I would say:

Relegation battlers
Bologna
Cagliari
Chievo
Reggina
Catania
Lecce

Midtable
Siena
Torino
Atalanta
Palermo
Genoa

Euro Aspirants
Lazio
Napoli
Udinese
Sampdoria
Fiorentina

Then I would consider Roma, Inter, Milan, and Juventus as the "big four"

EDIT: La Liga:

Relegation battlers
Osasuna
Real Valladolid
Recreativo
Numancia
Sporting Gijon
Malaga

Midtable
Real Betis
Racing Santander
Athletic Bilbao
Mallorca
Almeria
Getafe
Espanyol
Deportivo

Euro Aspirants/Title contenders
Villarreal
Atletico Madrid
Sevilla
Valencia
Barcelona
Real Madrid

It's hard to separate the Euro aspirants from Real Madrid and Barca, because they seem like legitamate CL teams and possibly title contenders.

bluchampblogger · 21-10-2008, 06:47 AM

Very well guys! Can someone come up with similar classification for la liga teams?

juggaknot · 21-10-2008, 08:12 AM

can you upload the tactics to your player hub and share them?

bluchampblogger · 21-10-2008, 09:37 AM

For the other leagues (dutch, french, portuguese etc), we can set up the tactic of the mid-tablers. What do you say?

20-10-2008, 07:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
bluchampblogger Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 565 Blog Entries: 5	Custom tactics suggestions for realistic gameplay in FIFA 09 In my previous post, I had talked about how some tweaking of the custom tactics for the opponent teams would make this game absolutely brilliant with variety and randomness. Thanks for your overwhelming response for that idea. As a result of your support, now I'm going to suggest you some custom tactic set ups for various types of opponents. My basic assumption is that you would be playing for a top team or a champions league team. Relegation battlers: Let's see how they normally play. Primarily, draw is a great result for them. They may not have matching skill or pace to weave an attack from back to front too often. They would go for route one football of hoofing it up to the target men or in the D-area in some hope. They may not be tactically sound in defending and organisation but they would make it up with spirited tackles and interceptions. They would defend in numbers while leaving very few in attack. They would cross a lot and given the opportunity, they'd rather shoot instead of wasting it with a hopeful further build up play. Build Up - Speed: 40 Passing: 85 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 30 Crossing: 80 Shooting: 55 Positioning: Organised. Defence - Pressure: 35 Aggression: 75 Team width: 20 Defender Line: Cover. In build-up, they're slow and long. That means when they have the ball in their own half, they won't hurry up the attack and that they use a lot of long balls. Because they'll use long balls, their attackers would position themselves to receive the long passes, which might give you some space in the midfield. In chance creation, they pass safely, cross and shoot a lot. In defence, they won't chase you when you're in your half but will get involved as you get closer to your final third. They're also very aggressive in winning the ball from you. They wouldn't mind a crunching tackle. Defender line should be set to cover if you want a challenging game. Mid-tablers: Must be pretty average in attack and should concentrate on defending. They might have one or two star players and the rest should be decent but may not be good enough. I'd make quicker than the relegation battlers in build up speed. I'll make it 50. The passing in build up should be 70 which means both short passes and long passes but still more of the latter. In chance creation I'd expect them to take more risks in passing so that would be 50 and I'd keep the crossing at 80 and bring down the shooting to 40 as I think they are more comfortable on the ball than the relegation battlers. In defence, I'd bring down the pressure to 30 as it would help with a quicker build up play, if the ball is won. I'd keep the aggression at 75 as I think that's the ideal setting for aggression across all teams. I can put the team width to 30 as the defenders could be a bit better and hence should be able to make up the lateral distance. Build Up - Speed: 50 Passing: 70 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 50 Crossing: 80 Shooting: 40 Positioning: Organised. Defence - Pressure: 30 Aggression: 75 Team width: 30 Defender Line: Cover. Euro-aspirants: These are good teams that may not have those five star players but still can give a great challenge to the biggies. They should have some skillful players and can be pacy. I'll give them a 60 in build up play speed and passing in build up should be 55 or 60. This means they can play short passes as well as long passes. It's more situational. The riskiness of passing in chance creation must be 65, which means they'll go for the risky passes but they might have the players to back it up. Crossing should be 55 or 60 while shooting can be 50 or 60. Basically, they'll rely less on crossing and more on passing and shooting. This could be different in various leagues, so I suggest you make you appropriate customisations. In positioning in chance creation, you can make it 'free form' for certain teams which would make the game lot more interesting and random. Pressure and aggression should remain as 30 and 75 respectively while the team width can be 40 or 45, which will help them cut down our crosses. I suggest you alwasy have the defender line as 'cover' across all teams. Build Up - Speed: 60 Passing: 60 Positioning: Organised. Chance Creation - Passing: 65 Crossing: 55 Shooting: 60 Positioning: Freeform. Defence - Pressure: 30 Aggression: 75 Team width: 40. Defender Line: Cover. For the champions league teams, especially the so-called big teams, the custom tactics set up for build up and chance creation is almost perfect already. But since the defence sliders are messed up, you might have to change that alone for them. Once again, pressure can be 30 and aggression 75. For a team like Chelsea if you set the aggression slider to 75, they might be a massive challenge to your attackers, because they have a top class defence and most of the team could tackle rather well. The team width can be 50 for teams which uses wing backs and 40 otherwise. If you don't know already, there are only 28 slots for saving custom tactics. That's a shame. Anyway, I'm using it this way. 3 slots for my team (Chelsea), 1 for relegation battlers, 1 for mid-tablers, 1 for Euro-aspirants and 18 other slots for specific top teams which are Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City (love 'em or hate 'em, you can't ignore 'em!), Real Madrid, Barca, Sevilla, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Villareal, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Roma, Fiorentina, Bayern, Lyon and Porto. Now this leaves 4 empty slots which can be used for the in-game tactical changes. So I'll have unique tactic setups for the above mentioned top teams and the other teams in English, Spanish and Italian leagues would get one of the tactics of (a) relegation battlers (b) mid-tablers (c) euro aspirants. As long as I've the teams fixed in the premier league, la liga and serie a, I'm fine. These leagues account for 90% of my matches. This might have left some leagues untouched. That's fine. Either I don't use them or I'm fine with the occasional random match where I can run past the defence through the centre. May be, I'd be playing samba football by then that I'd not think of route ones! XBOX 3760 users - These tactics are saved in my FIFA 09 locker (XBL: bluechampblogger) PS3 users - Click on the below image and update the values manually. P.S: The slider values are ased on my own opinions and preferences. Please change it for yourself if you wish. Don't need to bash me but certainly we can have a matured discussion on what the sliders should be. But I have tested the above values and they work for me superbly. __________________ Last edited by bluchampblogger; 28-10-2008 at 09:09 AM..

20-10-2008, 08:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
bluchampblogger Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 565 Blog Entries: 5	Ok then, did you apply these slider values? Please share your experiences with us! __________________

20-10-2008, 08:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Joobieo Forum Junkie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ohio, USA* Age: 20 Posts: 3,343	Mine are different for one I wouldn't suggest putting presser so high, if you do you just get brunt by fast strikers. - Joobieo __________________ Online Account : * Joobieo * * Level 1 * *Record 0-0* Fifa 2009 Level 17 105-51 Madden 09 ( Xbox 360 )

20-10-2008, 09:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
bluchampblogger Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 565 Blog Entries: 5	bump __________________

20-10-2008, 10:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dyfs Hi, I'm New! Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1	This looks really interesting! thanks for putting in the effort and posting this! Could you post the specific settings for the big teams i.e. Liverpool, Chelsea, e.t.c ?? Last edited by Dyfs; 20-10-2008 at 10:04 PM..

20-10-2008, 08:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
nkfootball Forum Guru Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,234	YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ABOUT WITH THE GAME TO MAKE IT PLAY FOOTBALL!!!! This game is broken.

20-10-2008, 10:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Crash2772 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 26	Can these be implemented after a MM has begun, so the changes still take place? Or do we have to restart our MM?

21-10-2008, 01:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
elpichichi1983 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 355	oh and, bluchampblogger, try playing some games online, see if your tactics still work... i'm not tryna diss ya, but your tactics work pretty good OFFLINE but online tactics are bull****. try using tactics when someone presses you on the WHOLE field with his robot players (mufc f.e.), steals the ball away, just blind pass it twice, gives an automatic blind long ball and outruns you with berbatov or rooney for an easy 1 on 1. basically i've just resumed online play...

21-10-2008, 03:08 AM	#15 (permalink)
lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 685	i've put together a list for which premier league teams should go with which tactic....based on current league positions and last years end of season table... Relegation battlers: Bolton Stoke Wigan West brom Fullham Mid-tablers: Boro Sunderland (just) Spurs Hull Blackburn West ham Newcastle Euro-aspirants: Everton Aston villa Man City Portsmouth and of course the big four have their own... i've done this for the other english leagues, i assume that for lower leagues the euro-aspirants tactics would transfer over to promotion candidates...as the standard of the players is still goin to make a difference.... have also done this for the other big leagues in the game....if ya want me to post up those lists for ya'll to check out let me know..... of course everyone will have dif opinions...but this is what i think... anyway cheers for reading!!!! __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

21-10-2008, 03:28 AM	#16 (permalink)
Trequartista Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 296	What kind of custom tactics would allow me to score a teamwork goals like this and get very smart movement off the ball? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R_iYLca2gc

21-10-2008, 03:44 AM	#17 (permalink)
cfcfrancodisanto Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 612	holy christ that is an amazing goal. i dont think that is simulatable(sp?)that is a very sad thing too because that is simply amazing.

21-10-2008, 03:47 AM	#18 (permalink)
Trequartista Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 296	Look at these old PES goals, especially the Argentina one, the movement off the ball is pretty superb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZPxUPQkymI Imagine the old PES gameplay with the Fifa engine, I hope EA look into it, it would be the best football game ever. What custom tactics can make this type of football possible? Last edited by Trequartista; 21-10-2008 at 03:52 AM..

21-10-2008, 03:52 AM	#19 (permalink)
cfcfrancodisanto Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Saratoga Springs, NY Posts: 612	that seems to be like it would be a superb game, since the game runs too fast with top teams for me, i just play with qpr sometimes and it is so much more enjoyable.

21-10-2008, 05:18 AM	#20 (permalink)
toopgui88 Rookie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 70	Kudos on another great post! I think we should all work on getting team specific tactics for every English Premier league team! I will start tomorrow...

21-10-2008, 06:37 AM	#22 (permalink)
Trequartista Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 296	For Serie A I would say: Relegation battlers Bologna Cagliari Chievo Reggina Catania Lecce Midtable Siena Torino Atalanta Palermo Genoa Euro Aspirants Lazio Napoli Udinese Sampdoria Fiorentina Then I would consider Roma, Inter, Milan, and Juventus as the "big four" EDIT: La Liga: Relegation battlers Osasuna Real Valladolid Recreativo Numancia Sporting Gijon Malaga Midtable Real Betis Racing Santander Athletic Bilbao Mallorca Almeria Getafe Espanyol Deportivo Euro Aspirants/Title contenders Villarreal Atletico Madrid Sevilla Valencia Barcelona Real Madrid It's hard to separate the Euro aspirants from Real Madrid and Barca, because they seem like legitamate CL teams and possibly title contenders. Last edited by Trequartista; 21-10-2008 at 06:57 AM..

21-10-2008, 06:47 AM	#23 (permalink)
bluchampblogger Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 565 Blog Entries: 5	Very well guys! Can someone come up with similar classification for la liga teams? __________________

21-10-2008, 08:12 AM	#24 (permalink)
juggaknot Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 117	can you upload the tactics to your player hub and share them?

21-10-2008, 09:37 AM	#25 (permalink)
bluchampblogger Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 565 Blog Entries: 5	For the other leagues (dutch, french, portuguese etc), we can set up the tactic of the mid-tablers. What do you say? __________________