Custom tactics suggestions for realistic gameplay in FIFA 09 - Page 6

lungfull · 30-10-2008, 03:18 AM

yea i know what ya saying....i guess its up to you which teams you put the various settings on.....although i would say attacking overall is pretty quick and if theres a hole to get a player or the ball thru it'll happen....

there are also teams in the game that are lower stat teams and have the same kinda setting as the big teams so i suppose allot must come down to the stats of the players on the team....like if they have players that are quick at passing and moving the teams play will go with them....

also with most fifa games the results and final league positions are random....so i cant see it having to big an effect...

and your right about EA "not doin their job" its seems like manager mode has taken second place to the like of be-a-pro and online stuff.....where as there are players like me who would like manager mode to be the main focus of offline gameplay....

i suppose they cant make a game for realism fans and have it appeal to the masses as much....but at least we can tweak things like this to get the kinda of gameplay we want...

HTAN · 30-10-2008, 03:25 AM

I tried less pressure more aggresiveness but this does not always work well against good players who do good timing for thru ball over your last defenders.

I found recently the key to defending really is your timing for playing jockey while running. As in the EA manual you can press L2 + R2 to jockey while running and press X and release L2 at the right time. This is a killer defending skill that now I have been winning my games without worrying too much about sliders! I advance my level by 3 in a day

sweet

bluchampblogger · 30-10-2008, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiAmoInter

I'm not trying to be nit-picky, I'm just pointing out there may be some drawbacks to bluechamps settings. Obviously the ideal would be to go through every team altering the tactics according to player qualities, formations, etc. But isnt that EA's job? I've never worked so hard editing a game...

Hey TiAmoInter - Editing and altering the tactics of every single team may not be possible because you've got only 28 slots to save the tactics!!!! That's why I made groups for each leagues plus the top teams tactics, so that I don't need more than 28 slots.

II Sathiroth II · 31-10-2008, 04:17 AM

bluchampblogger you are a legend i just tried some of your custom tactics and they have worked wonders for me..... i could kiss you right now.

i mean Fifa 09 has never felt so realistic, thank you so much mate.

bluchampblogger · 31-10-2008, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by II Sathiroth II

bluchampblogger you are a legend i just tried some of your custom tactics and they have worked wonders for me..... i could kiss you right now.

i mean Fifa 09 has never felt so realistic, thank you so much mate.

LOL! Thanks mate! I want to spread this message on custom tactics tweaking so that everyone play the game the way it should be played. Keep bumping the thread for me

II Sathiroth II · 31-10-2008, 05:04 AM

just a quick question though... how do i download your custom tactics from your locker

bluchampblogger · 31-10-2008, 06:19 AM

In your game, go to MY FIFA 09 ONLINE and then FIFA 09 LOCKER and then ALL ONLINE FILES. I'm not sure if locating my files is easy there. Someone can help on how to locate.

uncleO · 31-10-2008, 01:42 PM

man i wanna thank you for taking the time out to set this up. im not a /soccer genius so i had no idea what to do when it comes to tactics. i took the time out to download your stuff and applied it to my game and wow does the somputer play a diffrent game. so thanks for the hard work. and and thanks to lungs for setting up the table and where they belong thanks guys.

uncleO · 31-10-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluchampblogger

In your game, go to MY FIFA 09 ONLINE and then FIFA 09 LOCKER and then ALL ONLINE FILES. I'm not sure if locating my files is easy there. Someone can help on how to locate.

i did this last night and for me there was no easy way just keep scrolling the pages till you see Blue's name as the author. downloading it was a breeze

jamielfc89 · 31-10-2008, 02:26 PM

i just wanna say how much help you have given me wiv these tactics, at first i didnt think it would improve my play. but it has big time im no longer conceding sloppy goals i changed to these tactics last night there great ive only lost 1 games since las nite when usually i would of lost between 7-8 now lol thanks 4 your help i suggest evryone does this it helps you alot

menatwork14 · 31-10-2008, 05:37 PM

epic post mate.
played only a couple of games after tweaking the tactics and i mussay im alr seeing the difference.

cant wait to play more games and really feel the difference.
lookin forward to more posts blu.

cheers

TiAmoInter · 31-10-2008, 08:06 PM

Ok. To answer my own question (on the previous page), after some initial reasearch (half a season in MM), I've come to the conclusion that yes, bluechamps tactics do make the game more realistic, both in terms of acutal gameplay and in terms of poisitions in the league. While I dont have the stats in front of me, playing as Reggina in Serie A, after about half a season, the league table looks like this:

1. Milan. 2. Roma 3. Juventus. 4. Inter. 5. Fiorentina... The other "euro aspirants" - Udinese, Napoli - are close behind the leaders. I meanwhile, am in 19th place, just in front of Siena, which is also quite realisitc. I've tied more than anything, and I got trashed by Juventus and Milan.

So its settled then, for me anyway, the switch in tactics according to bluechamps settings for Serie A teams, does reflect more realisitc gameplay and a realistic league table. Case closed.

Anyone else care to share their experiences using these settings over a season in MM?

lungfull · 31-10-2008, 09:37 PM

im only 8 games into my premier league season but its def felling good...

have also gone the manual player upgrade route...only adding the odd point onto the players that have worked hard and only adding to the odd skill and not right across the board..

im sure by now (with auto upgrade) at least one of my players would have gone up a point or two....which lets face it isnt the way football works....sure some players get allot better over a season but most players have a general playing level and will only improve on certain aspects of their game..

im also trying to keep my staff at a realistic level, right now im at middlesbrough and im happy with my staff on 3 with my stadium and fitness on 4......

having the fitness on 4 seems to be making me use more of my squad from game to game, giving the younger players more exp points over the season...and it also means that like in reality you cant always put your best 11 on the pitch.

i suppose this also will keep the manager prestige growing at a slower rate...which im in favour of....since in past seasons i've gone up in level for winning nothing...

not that it makes any dif this year since you can move to any team at the end of the season.....whatever happened to getting job offers from teams based on your prestige?

smhart76 · 31-10-2008, 10:13 PM

thanks for the great thread, im going to change the custom tactics asap!

was wondering if you keep the default tactics for man u, milan, barca, etc.. or do you change them also to euro-arpirant? and if you do keep the default tactics, can you give a list of the teams? i have a pretty good idea, but would like you're imput.

i play on world class, i noticed you said you play on professional, do these tactics work the same on any difficulty?

thanks for trying to make 09' a much better experience for all of us offline players, i'm really thankful for it. mm was getting very boring, i think im going to also turn off player growth, gaining 5 points in a year is ridiculous.

lungfull · 31-10-2008, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smhart76

was wondering if you keep the default tactics for man u, milan, barca, etc.. or do you change them also to euro-arpirant? and if you do keep the default tactics, can you give a list of the teams? i have a pretty good idea, but would like you're imput.

i think we got down to around 16/18 teams each getting their own custom tactic slot (since their defensive tactics still need tweaking...mostly the teams that are regulars in the champions league...im sure this is covered earlyer in the thread...

roughly these teams i think
Man u
chelsea
liverpool
arsenal
real madrid
barca
athletico madrid
velencia
inter
AC milan
juventus
roma
bayern
lyon
porto
villareal
----theres also other teams that could go in there like
savilla
fiorentina
ajax
shalke

smhart76 · 31-10-2008, 10:52 PM

so do i leave them 16-18 teams as is or do i tweak them? if i do tweak them, tweak them to what? i've looked in earlier threads and dont see the tactics for the champions league regulars.

Shanice1973P · 01-11-2008, 12:58 AM

What I have done with the champions league teams, I left them alone except for the defence sliders where I set the aggression slider to 75. Everything else left on deafualt.

The teams
Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barca, Sevilla, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Villareal, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Roma, Bayern Munich, Lyon and Porto.

In regard to Man City and Fiorentina I put them with the Euro Aspirants.

Shanice1973P · 01-11-2008, 01:07 AM

How would you guys rate all the scottish premier league teams?
Would Celtic and Rangers fall into the category of Champions League teams?

lungfull · 01-11-2008, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shanice1973P

How would you guys rate all the scottish premier league teams?
Would Celtic and Rangers fall into the category of Champions League teams?

if you were splitting the league up like we have with some of the others they would be the only two teams that get the euro aspirant tactic (or if you have 2 spare slots give em their own) and most of the others would just get mid table...

we could go mental with this thing if we had lots more tactic slots cos every team in the game needs the defence tweaking...and every league has dif playing styles that would need to be addressed....

the choice is yours what teams and what leagues ya want to edit..do whatever you think will enhance your enjoyment of the game....

smhart76 · 01-11-2008, 01:55 AM

thanks, you guys are awesome!!

lungfull · 01-11-2008, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smhart76

so do i leave them 16-18 teams as is or do i tweak them? if i do tweak them, tweak them to what? i've looked in earlier threads and dont see the tactics for the champions league regulars.

read the very first post in this thread....

the defence on the champions league teams gets tweaked to

agro 75
pres 30
width 50 (if they play with wing back)
40 otherwise

i've also gone and tweaked a couple of little things about the champions league teams i know but nothing major

no one in this thread is saying that you have to do stick to these numbers...see how the game plays for you and make changes to taste

smhart76 · 01-11-2008, 03:03 AM

again, thanks for helping me out. i hope you didnt think i was being a smart-***. these tactics truly make the game so much better.

LFCFOLIFE · 01-11-2008, 03:18 AM

funny thing is with liverpool i set my aggression to 95!!! so the tackles are hard. one time ronaldo was one a breakaway but carra caught up with him, last ditch and completly did him but still go the ball

cpl69colsa · 01-11-2008, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LFCFOLIFE

funny thing is with liverpool i set my aggression to 95!!! so the tackles are hard. one time ronaldo was one a breakaway but carra caught up with him, last ditch and completly did him but still go the ball

cheating ****

juggaknot · 01-11-2008, 04:13 AM

i've tried tweaking the tactics for the cpu this way, and i'm FINALLY enjoying the games against it! not more one on ones and easy through balls. i was beating the cpu by lots in professional, then in world class...but now even on professional is a bit of a challenge. most matches are close and you really have to work and take your chances.

thank you for posting these!

30-10-2008, 03:18 AM	#126 (permalink)
lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 746	yea i know what ya saying....i guess its up to you which teams you put the various settings on.....although i would say attacking overall is pretty quick and if theres a hole to get a player or the ball thru it'll happen.... there are also teams in the game that are lower stat teams and have the same kinda setting as the big teams so i suppose allot must come down to the stats of the players on the team....like if they have players that are quick at passing and moving the teams play will go with them.... also with most fifa games the results and final league positions are random....so i cant see it having to big an effect... and your right about EA "not doin their job" its seems like manager mode has taken second place to the like of be-a-pro and online stuff.....where as there are players like me who would like manager mode to be the main focus of offline gameplay.... i suppose they cant make a game for realism fans and have it appeal to the masses as much....but at least we can tweak things like this to get the kinda of gameplay we want... __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

31-10-2008, 06:19 AM	#132 (permalink)
bluchampblogger Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 565 Blog Entries: 5	In your game, go to MY FIFA 09 ONLINE and then FIFA 09 LOCKER and then ALL ONLINE FILES. I'm not sure if locating my files is easy there. Someone can help on how to locate. __________________

31-10-2008, 01:42 PM	#133 (permalink)
uncleO Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 145	man i wanna thank you for taking the time out to set this up. im not a /soccer genius so i had no idea what to do when it comes to tactics. i took the time out to download your stuff and applied it to my game and wow does the somputer play a diffrent game. so thanks for the hard work. and and thanks to lungs for setting up the table and where they belong thanks guys. __________________

31-10-2008, 09:37 PM	#138 (permalink)
lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 746	im only 8 games into my premier league season but its def felling good... have also gone the manual player upgrade route...only adding the odd point onto the players that have worked hard and only adding to the odd skill and not right across the board.. im sure by now (with auto upgrade) at least one of my players would have gone up a point or two....which lets face it isnt the way football works....sure some players get allot better over a season but most players have a general playing level and will only improve on certain aspects of their game.. im also trying to keep my staff at a realistic level, right now im at middlesbrough and im happy with my staff on 3 with my stadium and fitness on 4...... having the fitness on 4 seems to be making me use more of my squad from game to game, giving the younger players more exp points over the season...and it also means that like in reality you cant always put your best 11 on the pitch. i suppose this also will keep the manager prestige growing at a slower rate...which im in favour of....since in past seasons i've gone up in level for winning nothing... not that it makes any dif this year since you can move to any team at the end of the season.....whatever happened to getting job offers from teams based on your prestige? __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

01-11-2008, 12:58 AM	#142 (permalink)
Shanice1973P Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 14	What I have done with the champions league teams, I left them alone except for the defence sliders where I set the aggression slider to 75. Everything else left on deafualt. The teams Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barca, Sevilla, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Villareal, Inter, Milan, Juventus, Roma, Bayern Munich, Lyon and Porto. In regard to Man City and Fiorentina I put them with the Euro Aspirants. __________________ We all follow the Chelsea Over land and sea - And Leicester!

30-10-2008, 03:25 AM	#127 (permalink)
HTAN Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 603	I tried less pressure more aggresiveness but this does not always work well against good players who do good timing for thru ball over your last defenders. I found recently the key to defending really is your timing for playing jockey while running. As in the EA manual you can press L2 + R2 to jockey while running and press X and release L2 at the right time. This is a killer defending skill that now I have been winning my games without worrying too much about sliders! I advance my level by 3 in a day sweet

31-10-2008, 04:17 AM	#129 (permalink)
II Sathiroth II Forum Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,023	bluchampblogger you are a legend i just tried some of your custom tactics and they have worked wonders for me..... i could kiss you right now. i mean Fifa 09 has never felt so realistic, thank you so much mate.

31-10-2008, 05:04 AM	#131 (permalink)
II Sathiroth II Forum Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,023	just a quick question though... how do i download your custom tactics from your locker

31-10-2008, 02:26 PM	#135 (permalink)
jamielfc89 Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England Age: 20 Gender: Male Posts: 3,212	i just wanna say how much help you have given me wiv these tactics, at first i didnt think it would improve my play. but it has big time im no longer conceding sloppy goals i changed to these tactics last night there great ive only lost 1 games since las nite when usually i would of lost between 7-8 now lol thanks 4 your help i suggest evryone does this it helps you alot

31-10-2008, 05:37 PM	#136 (permalink)
menatwork14 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 12	epic post mate. played only a couple of games after tweaking the tactics and i mussay im alr seeing the difference. cant wait to play more games and really feel the difference. lookin forward to more posts blu. cheers

31-10-2008, 08:06 PM	#137 (permalink)
TiAmoInter Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Siro Posts: 462	Ok. To answer my own question (on the previous page), after some initial reasearch (half a season in MM), I've come to the conclusion that yes, bluechamps tactics do make the game more realistic, both in terms of acutal gameplay and in terms of poisitions in the league. While I dont have the stats in front of me, playing as Reggina in Serie A, after about half a season, the league table looks like this: 1. Milan. 2. Roma 3. Juventus. 4. Inter. 5. Fiorentina... The other "euro aspirants" - Udinese, Napoli - are close behind the leaders. I meanwhile, am in 19th place, just in front of Siena, which is also quite realisitc. I've tied more than anything, and I got trashed by Juventus and Milan. So its settled then, for me anyway, the switch in tactics according to bluechamps settings for Serie A teams, does reflect more realisitc gameplay and a realistic league table. Case closed. Anyone else care to share their experiences using these settings over a season in MM?

31-10-2008, 10:13 PM	#139 (permalink)
smhart76 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minnesota, USA Gender: Male Posts: 44	thanks for the great thread, im going to change the custom tactics asap! was wondering if you keep the default tactics for man u, milan, barca, etc.. or do you change them also to euro-arpirant? and if you do keep the default tactics, can you give a list of the teams? i have a pretty good idea, but would like you're imput. i play on world class, i noticed you said you play on professional, do these tactics work the same on any difficulty? thanks for trying to make 09' a much better experience for all of us offline players, i'm really thankful for it. mm was getting very boring, i think im going to also turn off player growth, gaining 5 points in a year is ridiculous.

31-10-2008, 10:52 PM	#141 (permalink)
smhart76 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minnesota, USA Gender: Male Posts: 44	so do i leave them 16-18 teams as is or do i tweak them? if i do tweak them, tweak them to what? i've looked in earlier threads and dont see the tactics for the champions league regulars.

01-11-2008, 01:07 AM	#143 (permalink)
Shanice1973P Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 14	How would you guys rate all the scottish premier league teams? Would Celtic and Rangers fall into the category of Champions League teams? __________________ We all follow the Chelsea Over land and sea - And Leicester!

01-11-2008, 01:55 AM	#145 (permalink)
smhart76 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minnesota, USA Gender: Male Posts: 44	thanks, you guys are awesome!!

01-11-2008, 03:03 AM	#147 (permalink)
smhart76 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Minnesota, USA Gender: Male Posts: 44	again, thanks for helping me out. i hope you didnt think i was being a smart-***. these tactics truly make the game so much better.

01-11-2008, 03:18 AM	#148 (permalink)
LFCFOLIFE Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Up your **** , what a farce! Posts: 2,938	funny thing is with liverpool i set my aggression to 95!!! so the tackles are hard. one time ronaldo was one a breakaway but carra caught up with him, last ditch and completly did him but still go the ball

01-11-2008, 04:13 AM	#150 (permalink)
juggaknot Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 117	i've tried tweaking the tactics for the cpu this way, and i'm FINALLY enjoying the games against it! not more one on ones and easy through balls. i was beating the cpu by lots in professional, then in world class...but now even on professional is a bit of a challenge. most matches are close and you really have to work and take your chances. thank you for posting these!