Custom tactics suggestions for realistic gameplay in FIFA 09 - Page 5

bluchampblogger · 27-10-2008, 06:18 AM

Hi All

Here are the custom tactics values for the one who use PS3. For the XBOX360 guys, you can check my FIFA 09 locker.

I've given the custom tactics values for all three categories (relegation battlers, mid-tablers and euro-aspirants) for the top thre leagues. For the top clubs (of my choice) in each league, I have retained all the default values but have amended only the aggression values to 70 or 75.

Hope you find it useful!

bluchampblogger · 27-10-2008, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Shanice1973P

I've never posted before but felt I'd like to add some more positive feedback on this thread. The thread starter has made this game more realistic and has my thanks and gratitude.

I've been playing 15 minute halves/World Class. It's just about right for me.
These custom tactics are amazing.

I Played a fantastic game earlier between Fulham and Everton and it was very hard fought.
Certainly seeing different things and that includes different types of goals being scored. Impressed with the A1 as well using these tactics. It felt very competitive like every player was giving his everything.
Everton (me) was using the Euro-Aspirant and Fulham (A1) was using Relegation Battler tactics, Everton won 3-1. Yakubu scored two goals and one was a beauty from just inside the D into the corner of the net. I am having a great time with these tactics.

Thanks a lot mate! Positive feedback always helps! This game is plays best when you don't play with/against the big teams. Play as Everton against Aston Villa, it could be a cracker too!

Some time later, I would go deeper into custom tactics to come up with more suggestions. Cheers!

bluchampblogger · 27-10-2008, 08:04 PM

more bumping

LedZeppelin71234 · 27-10-2008, 10:30 PM

i have been a long time reader of these threads, but when i saw this one i just had to post something
this is brilliant
i applied these to my custom tactics and it is so much more fun playing mm

lungfull · 27-10-2008, 10:46 PM

i've just started a new MM at middlesborough....first two games 1-0 losses to chelsea and man U.....tactics are spot on.....the defence really get stuck in....comes down to taking your chances....and with shooting on manual its def a challenge

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bluchampblogger · 27-10-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lungfull

i've just started a new MM at middlesborough....first two games 1-0 losses to chelsea and man U.....tactics are spot on.....the defence really get stuck in....comes down to taking your chances....and with shooting on manual its def a challenge

...

Thanks lungfull. Did you see my detailed tactics in the page 4 of this very thread where I have given the custom tactic values for various categories of teams in the top three leagues?

By having differen tactics, you should be able to see clear differences among the playing styles of premier league, la liga and serie a.

lungfull · 27-10-2008, 11:39 PM

yea i got those man...cheers...only got two custom tactics slots now..lol...

think im gonna do a couple of manager modes in dif leagues rather than changing club im just gonna stick with one in each and see how things develop....am also sticking to manual player growth the keep things more realistic...

should be fun

Katarinaccio · 28-10-2008, 01:16 AM

I'll try em out later sounds intriguing

LookItsBigDave · 29-10-2008, 09:32 AM

This is really good

you thought about doing a blog or a site or anything?

also someone needs to do a glossary of the player attributes and which attributes will effect each position

bluchampblogger · 29-10-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LookItsBigDave

This is really good

you thought about doing a blog or a site or anything?

also someone needs to do a glossary of the player attributes and which attributes will effect each position

Hi Dave! Yes, I have a blog. It's a Chelsea fan blog - www.bluechampions.com

You've given me an idea. I may start a subdomain for FIFA related stuff! Thanks!

fantasticba4 · 29-10-2008, 01:23 PM

just read this thread now and its really insightfull
cant wait to try them out
do you mind if i add you on xbl and get them off your locker??

bluchampblogger · 29-10-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fantasticba4

just read this thread now and its really insightfull
cant wait to try them out
do you mind if i add you on xbl and get them off your locker??

Please do. I'll accept and you can access my locker.

7Viva_Ronaldo7 · 29-10-2008, 02:05 PM

im going to start my MM again i hope it works lol i trust you Bluchampblogger

EDIT: i just realised thats for ps3 would it still work for the xbox 360 i havnt got xbox live sooo i cant get to your locker

bluchampblogger · 29-10-2008, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7Viva_Ronaldo7

im going to start my MM again i hope it works lol i trust you Bluchampblogger

EDIT: i just realised thats for ps3 would it still work for the xbox 360 i havnt got xbox live sooo i cant get to your locker

Wait, I'm using XBOX 360 and not PS3! My tactics files are uploaded in my XBOX live locker. If you use XBOX 360 and have access to XBOX live, you can access my locker!

danielrh · 29-10-2008, 02:43 PM

it's because of you mate my game has gone up a notch.
thanks bluchampblogger !!!! and thats from a coverted former PES player

tmr2121 · 29-10-2008, 02:49 PM

What settings do you use in MM, I've tried world class with Liverpool, 10 min halves all setting semi or manuel & I'm getting destroyed I try to play build up football & the computer always closes me down to quick, I get 3-4 shots a game while the computer gets 10-12. Lost to West Brom 3-0. Haven't tryed assisted but i don't think i want to. Any ideas??

7Viva_Ronaldo7 · 29-10-2008, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluchampblogger

Wait, I'm using XBOX 360 and not PS3! My tactics files are uploaded in my XBOX live locker. If you use XBOX 360 and have access to XBOX live, you can access my locker!

i dont have xbox live lol i just said that is there any other way to get the tactics?

bluchampblogger · 29-10-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tmr2121

What settings do you use in MM, I've tried world class with Liverpool, 10 min halves all setting semi or manuel & I'm getting destroyed I try to play build up football & the computer always closes me down to quick, I get 3-4 shots a game while the computer gets 10-12. Lost to West Brom 3-0. Haven't tryed assisted but i don't think i want to. Any ideas??

Why don't you try assisted? What's this, a video game right? We take a lot of advantages in this game but why not assisted controls. If we need realisty so much why do we use TELE camera? We should be using only PRO camera right? Because that's the camera angle in which the game is played, whereas we conveniently use the angle that we use to see the match.

Drop that ego. Use assisted. Enjoy the game.

tmr2121 · 29-10-2008, 03:02 PM

Point taken. What do you use?? By the way have used the slider suggestions, they work great teams play like they do in real life, has actuall help my online team as well, i use the relegetion setting & play strong defense & counters it drives people MAD!!!! HA HA HA HA HA.. Keep up the good work.

bluchampblogger · 29-10-2008, 03:08 PM

Cheers mate. I use pass and shoot assisted. For cross and lob, I use manual. Purely because it works better that way :-)

Squiddles · 29-10-2008, 03:21 PM

has any PS3 player uploaded all the info to their system yet? if so can you post to your locker and share them with the rest of us?

if not i'll try to do it and post on here for the premier league tonight

great info that should be shared - although i haven't tried it yet!

lungfull · 29-10-2008, 03:40 PM

its a bit to much hastle to put stuff in the locker (ps3) as i have 28 dif custom tactics....

TiAmoInter · 30-10-2008, 01:02 AM

Ok, so I set up all English and Italian teams according to bluechamp's settings and... well, in general, I didnt notice much of a difference in gameplay. I've only played a few games, but from what I've noticed, throughballs are still the primary way of scoring, both for me and the cpu. Not a knock against bluechamp or fifa 09, I just felt I should share...

What I would be intertested in knowing is if organizing teams in this way (regulation battlers, euro-aspirtants, etc) has a longer term effect over a season in MM? Do you think, by changing a team's tactics along these lines, that we are restricting the possibility of teams over or under-achieving?

Has anyone noticed how league table's turn out using these settings? More or less realistic?

lungfull · 30-10-2008, 01:22 AM

sure, like real football the thru-ball does lead to allot of goals...but what the tactic changes do is make the defenders harder to beat...of course if you go at it using the assists, a really good team or on a difficulty thats "to easy" for ya then you will break down defences..

in your answer to your questions about the league positions, i dont think it means that teams will finish in those places in the table, what it does mean is that certain standards of team play in the way their quality requires them to play...

but like real football anything can happen and the teams will switch tactics and formations mid game depending on whats happening.

for me there's no doubt that the changes in tactics improve the defensive play of teams across the board, fair enough some teams already had tactics like those but the base level in the game is set to allow for more attacking football....i think what we've done here is raise the base level to make gameplay more even overall.

TiAmoInter · 30-10-2008, 02:48 AM

great reply. it hadnt crossed my mind that AI teams would still switch tactics throughout the game, and I agree that with the switch in tactics the game becomes more technical/defensive overall.

I'm still convinced that the settings might cause problems for certain teams over the course of a season. I'll give you an example. Take the serie A team Napoli. They've got a solid team (4 star i think) and are definitely either euro-aspirants or at the very least strong mid-tablers. Napoli is set up by default to be a quick passing, counter-attacking team, which fits their formation and their players, and is actually their style in reality. By setting them up in bluechamps settings, they lose this aspect. I guess what I'm saying is that some teams which dont fit the mold of 'regulation-battlers', etc. lose a certain quality and might be negatively affected by these setting.

I'm not trying to be nit-picky, I'm just pointing out there may be some drawbacks to bluechamps settings. Obviously the ideal would be to go through every team altering the tactics according to player qualities, formations, etc. But isnt that EA's job? I've never worked so hard editing a game...

27-10-2008, 06:18 AM	#101 (permalink)
bluchampblogger Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 565 Blog Entries: 5	Hi All Here are the custom tactics values for the one who use PS3. For the XBOX360 guys, you can check my FIFA 09 locker. I've given the custom tactics values for all three categories (relegation battlers, mid-tablers and euro-aspirants) for the top thre leagues. For the top clubs (of my choice) in each league, I have retained all the default values but have amended only the aggression values to 70 or 75. Hope you find it useful! __________________

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lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 686	i've just started a new MM at middlesborough....first two games 1-0 losses to chelsea and man U.....tactics are spot on.....the defence really get stuck in....comes down to taking your chances....and with shooting on manual its def a challenge ... __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

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lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 686	yea i got those man...cheers...only got two custom tactics slots now..lol... think im gonna do a couple of manager modes in dif leagues rather than changing club im just gonna stick with one in each and see how things develop....am also sticking to manual player growth the keep things more realistic... should be fun __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

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7Viva_Ronaldo7 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 41	im going to start my MM again i hope it works lol i trust you Bluchampblogger EDIT: i just realised thats for ps3 would it still work for the xbox 360 i havnt got xbox live sooo i cant get to your locker __________________ MOSCOW 2008 "VAN DER SAR SAVED IT, UNITED AGAIN" BARCALONA 1999 "and SOLKJAER HAS WON IT" LONDON 1968 Last edited by 7Viva_Ronaldo7; 29-10-2008 at 02:08 PM..

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danielrh Forum Regular Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Bromwich, England Gender: Male Posts: 916	it's because of you mate my game has gone up a notch. thanks bluchampblogger !!!! and thats from a coverted former PES player

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tmr2121 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ, USA East Cost Age: 33 Gender: Male Posts: 123	What settings do you use in MM, I've tried world class with Liverpool, 10 min halves all setting semi or manuel & I'm getting destroyed I try to play build up football & the computer always closes me down to quick, I get 3-4 shots a game while the computer gets 10-12. Lost to West Brom 3-0. Haven't tryed assisted but i don't think i want to. Any ideas??

29-10-2008, 03:02 PM	#119 (permalink)
tmr2121 Rookie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NJ, USA East Cost Age: 33 Gender: Male Posts: 123	Point taken. What do you use?? By the way have used the slider suggestions, they work great teams play like they do in real life, has actuall help my online team as well, i use the relegetion setting & play strong defense & counters it drives people MAD!!!! HA HA HA HA HA.. Keep up the good work.

29-10-2008, 03:08 PM	#120 (permalink)
bluchampblogger Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 565 Blog Entries: 5	Cheers mate. I use pass and shoot assisted. For cross and lob, I use manual. Purely because it works better that way :-) __________________

29-10-2008, 03:21 PM	#121 (permalink)
Squiddles Rookie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: On these Boards! Age: 26 Gender: Male Posts: 147	has any PS3 player uploaded all the info to their system yet? if so can you post to your locker and share them with the rest of us? if not i'll try to do it and post on here for the premier league tonight great info that should be shared - although i haven't tried it yet!

29-10-2008, 03:40 PM	#122 (permalink)
lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 686	its a bit to much hastle to put stuff in the locker (ps3) as i have 28 dif custom tactics.... __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

30-10-2008, 01:02 AM	#123 (permalink)
TiAmoInter Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Siro Posts: 462	Ok, so I set up all English and Italian teams according to bluechamp's settings and... well, in general, I didnt notice much of a difference in gameplay. I've only played a few games, but from what I've noticed, throughballs are still the primary way of scoring, both for me and the cpu. Not a knock against bluechamp or fifa 09, I just felt I should share... What I would be intertested in knowing is if organizing teams in this way (regulation battlers, euro-aspirtants, etc) has a longer term effect over a season in MM? Do you think, by changing a team's tactics along these lines, that we are restricting the possibility of teams over or under-achieving? Has anyone noticed how league table's turn out using these settings? More or less realistic?

30-10-2008, 01:22 AM	#124 (permalink)
lungfull Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 686	sure, like real football the thru-ball does lead to allot of goals...but what the tactic changes do is make the defenders harder to beat...of course if you go at it using the assists, a really good team or on a difficulty thats "to easy" for ya then you will break down defences.. in your answer to your questions about the league positions, i dont think it means that teams will finish in those places in the table, what it does mean is that certain standards of team play in the way their quality requires them to play... but like real football anything can happen and the teams will switch tactics and formations mid game depending on whats happening. for me there's no doubt that the changes in tactics improve the defensive play of teams across the board, fair enough some teams already had tactics like those but the base level in the game is set to allow for more attacking football....i think what we've done here is raise the base level to make gameplay more even overall. __________________ ----------------- PSN ID. Lungfull

30-10-2008, 02:48 AM	#125 (permalink)
TiAmoInter Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Siro Posts: 462	great reply. it hadnt crossed my mind that AI teams would still switch tactics throughout the game, and I agree that with the switch in tactics the game becomes more technical/defensive overall. I'm still convinced that the settings might cause problems for certain teams over the course of a season. I'll give you an example. Take the serie A team Napoli. They've got a solid team (4 star i think) and are definitely either euro-aspirants or at the very least strong mid-tablers. Napoli is set up by default to be a quick passing, counter-attacking team, which fits their formation and their players, and is actually their style in reality. By setting them up in bluechamps settings, they lose this aspect. I guess what I'm saying is that some teams which dont fit the mold of 'regulation-battlers', etc. lose a certain quality and might be negatively affected by these setting. I'm not trying to be nit-picky, I'm just pointing out there may be some drawbacks to bluechamps settings. Obviously the ideal would be to go through every team altering the tactics according to player qualities, formations, etc. But isnt that EA's job? I've never worked so hard editing a game...